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    Quote Originally Posted by 'Jheusse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=113818#post 113818
    Quote Originally Posted by 'ciscokid454',index.php?page=Thread&postID=110680# post110680
    I've really never understood why people crap on hunter's so much.
    Simply put because of how many hunters there are out there, and more specifically how many BAD hunters there are out there.

    Hunter is an extremely solo friendly class and level lightning fast, but soloing on a hunter teaches you squat about being a good groupmate.

    A regrettably large portion of the hunter population is flatly put terribad at their class, and the massive number of hunters means tons of the bad hunters.

    Between the classic cliche of the ADHD teenage player /needing on everything in sight, constantly feigning onto the healer or trying to tap race farm spots and the old cliche of the Ni Hao set, the hunter class has a rep.

    A well-played hunter is a thing of beauty, but they're achingly rare.

    Personally I was scarred dealing with hunters while leveling my main, too many cases where a hunter would monopolize a quest mob spawn by placing a trap there, too much boorish behavior from them.

    I saw one hunter lock down the Greench spawn for an entire evening, forcing anyone who wanted the spawn to group with him or never get the kill.


    My 0.02 anyway.
    That's pretty well said.

  2. #12

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    [quote='Jheusse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=11381 8#post113818]Simply put because of how many hunters there are out there, and more specifically how many BAD hunters there are out there.
    [/quote]There is nothing unique to hunters being bad at understanding class mechanics and playing their class poorly. You can insert any other class name in there and it's still a true statement.
    [quote='Jheusse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=11381 8#post113818]Hunter is an extremely solo friendly class and level lightning fast, but soloing on a hunter teaches you squat about being a good groupmate.[/quote]This is also true for almost every other class. Tanks don't have to worry about threat generation while solo, healing classes solo in a completely different manner than how they heal in instances. DPS classes like mages may use the same spells but don't have to worry about CC pull techniques or aggro to the same degree.
    [quote='Jheusse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=11381 8#post113818]A regrettably large portion of the hunter population is flatly put terribad at their class, and the massive number of hunters means tons of the bad hunters. [/quote]I might concede this "raw numbers" point. But on a percentage basis, all classes are probably equally "terribad" in terms of (bad players of a class) / (total players of a class).

    [quote='Jheusse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=11381 8#post113818]Between the classic cliche of the ADHD teenage player /needing on everything in sight, constantly feigning onto the healer or trying to tap race farm spots and the old cliche of the Ni Hao set, the hunter class has a rep.[/quote]The hunter class' reputation is probably more largely influenced by a series of inside jokes (e.g. [url='http://www.wowwiki.com/Hunter_loot']Hunter Loot[/url]) than anything else. While hunters were used by gold farmers at one point, it was somewhat scientifically shown ages ago that gold farmers actually utilized a wide variety of classes.

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Jheusse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=113818#post 113818
    Personally I was scarred dealing with hunters while leveling my main, too many cases where a hunter would monopolize a quest mob spawn by placing a trap there, too much boorish behavior from them.
    Quote Originally Posted by 'Jheusse',index.php?page=Thread&postID=113818#post 113818
    I saw one hunter lock down the Greench spawn for an entire evening, forcing anyone who wanted the spawn to group with him or never get the kill.
    The class does not have the monopoly on boorish behavior. It sounds like you've had some bad experiences, but I don't think your very small number of bad experiences are enough to say that "Hunters R Bad" with any kind of significance.
    Cranky old-timer.

  3. #13

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    My experience with hunters is obviously only relevant to me, anecdote does not equal data. I've also mellowed substantially in regards to the class over time.

    But even if you start with the basis that those "I want to drown the little bastiche" players are scattered evenly across all classes, there are over a million hunters (literally), so you'll seem to encounter more of them. And I'd pose the hypothesis that those defenestration candidates tend to gravitate to the dps classes somewhat. Hunter and rogue being #1 and #2 ranked in raw numbers I doubt happened by accident.

    I'm just posing potential contributors why hunters have such the rep they do, the nerve I obviously touched wasn't my intent.

    No class is as easy to get a basic grip on and level to 70 as a hunter, though locks are close on mechanics, because both have a pet tank. And all classes can solo to 70 (thank god, DAoC was horrid that way), but hunter is one of the fastest, especially compared to warriors and pallies as two examples.

    Hell a contributor may be the "get out of jail " card that hunters (and rogues) have. Large dps with an aggro wipe is great solo but gets healers killed and groups wiped. Causes resentment when the hunter doesn't even get a repair bill out of it.

    The tactics that a solo hunter uses successfully are in some respects counterproductive in groups, used indiscriminately.

    You could even pose the thought that many relatively new players have a bad opinion of hunters (and rogues) because of experiences getting slaughtered by twink hunters and rogues in WSG when they were very new.

    Pick a theory, I dunno. The rep is there, the reason is anyone's guess.

  4. #14

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    dont take me wrong here, but id recoment geting an turtle pet by 1-2 of ur hunters, as turtles are the best tanks u can get for ur hunters

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    Quote Originally Posted by 'shaeman',index.php?page=Thread&postID=110642#post 110642
    realising that no matter how you try it they can't instance like your shammy's.
    I love my shamans, but taking 5 hunters into instances was 10 times easier with hunters.

    point, click, dead.

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