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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    I use Action Target Groups in ISBoxer to manage IWT with a clickbar to select forms. Then I also have hotkeys for quick switching the whole group into the same form. This way I can quickly swap any window to the form I want with a visual indicator for which form each character is in that shows in every window.

    What I try to do is allow my current bear to finish a fight at around 60% health. Then I regrowth/rejuv that target with the next window and swap that one to bear and the original bear to cat (swap to cat ATG > all other.) This gives you a good amount of initial agro on the new bear. Then, if necessary, I switch the third window out of cat to heal. You kind of cycle through your mana bars one at a time. Some bosses I can kill just by pre-HoTing and 1 bear/4 cats. Don't even need to heal. It sounds complicated but once you get used to it I manage it without thinking now.

    Like I said, can't kill 20 mobs at once like mages can but I can pull non stop without ever having to rest so my total clear time is actually faster than you'd expect. Can also just skip a lot of annoying trash (or tribute runs) by stealthing past it if I want to.

    Cleared all dungeons and Rend using this method. I literally don't even carry food or water in my bags anymore.
    Wow. Did you have any difficulties initially getting gear at level 60? Do you drive from the healer or tank? Do you try to position for shred?

    Do you mind linking your gear? Here is mine, same on all characters: https://classic.wowhead.com/gear-set/fleaclaw-98391

    I tried taking my druids into the beginning of Strat UD to farm Hearthsinger Forrester for a chest upgrade but the incoming damage was just too great for my current setup. I could try switching to moonglow/NS spec and see if it helps. I could also take my druids with my 4MP team, one at a time as a tank, and gear them up with the help. It is not looking like 5x deep feral is not viable on its own without being overgeared or having a level advantage. It would help if Regrowth HoT's could stack, but I do not think that comes until BC or WotLK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleaplus View Post
    Wow. Did you have any difficulties initially getting gear at level 60?
    I prefer not to link to my characters on forums. My gear isn't anything special though. Everything I'm wearing can be acquired from 5man content plus some BoE's. I haven't done any raiding on my druids.

    I went to all of the dungeons with good leather gear or quest rewards as I leveled so I pretty much had on level blues all the way to 60. I picked up the armor trinket from enchanting, two armor rings (ring of protection and naglering.) PUG'd a quest UBRS run for the armor trinket. The two trinkets and wardens staff alone give you a massive amount of armor. Once you have those you can swap in a lot more mana regen gear and still be quite tanky. I leveled enchanting on all of my druids until I was high enough to craft heart of the mountain then dropped enchanting. You don't need it to equip the trinket.

    Typically whichever window I'm currently focused on is the bear. It's easier to turn the tank so that the mobs are facing away from my DPS than to try to move the 4 other characters behind.

    Level makes all the difference in classic. The difference between being 2 levels higher or 2 levels lower than a mob is huge. If you're not 60 yet just go farm BRD. I farmed a lot of BRD for my HoJ's and some healing items.

    https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-c...0132320015-055

    That's the spec I used for dungeon farming. It's not a typical HoTW spec but my cat DPS is a lot higher and I don't find I need the extra threat from savage fury to hold agro.

    I use a simple castsequence with 4 shreds, ferocious bite. Typically I get a clearcasting proc somewhere in there for a free shred and occasionally the shreds will crit so I waste fewer combo points by biting at 4. Even if I bite at 4, it still does more damage per energy than shred. It's important to spam the key so you bite immediately after a shred otherwise you'll waste all of your pooled energy. Ferocious bite is a relatively small % of your DPS anyway. It doesn't matter if you get it perfect. 90% Of your damage comes from autoattacks and shred.

    Also, if you find yourself hitting a wall you could always go and farm yourself a few crowd pummelers to use as DPS cooldowns. It's time consuming but it's a huge DPS increase for fights you're struggling with.

    Quote Originally Posted by nodoze View Post
    ideally just changing gear for roles.
    I started off by having specific tank, heal and DPS pieces and feeding my healer innervate. At the moment I'm trying to farm gear with high armor and mixed stats with the goal that my druids will have reasonable DPS and EH but also enough regen to be full mana again quicker. I've started collecting the feralheart sets also, as someone mentioned earlier. It has great balanced stats and you can mix in a couple of pieces of hit or crit gear where necessary.

    The dream would be to pick up an item like https://classic.wowhead.com/item=214...-unending-life

    There's not a ton of competition for druid pieces if you can get into a raid as resto. I'm holding on to any BiS resto gear that drops so hopefully I can get into a few GDPK runs.
    Last edited by Apatheist : 09-29-2020 at 02:40 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apatheist View Post
    I prefer not to link to my characters on forums. My gear isn't anything special though. Everything I'm wearing can be acquired from 5man content plus some BoE's. I haven't done any raiding on my druids.

    I went to all of the dungeons with good leather gear or quest rewards as I leveled so I pretty much had on level blues all the way to 60. I picked up the armor trinket from enchanting, two armor rings (ring of protection and naglering.) PUG'd a quest UBRS run for the armor trinket. The two trinkets and wardens staff alone give you a massive amount of armor. Once you have those you can swap in a lot more mana regen gear and still be quite tanky. I leveled enchanting on all of my druids until I was high enough to craft heart of the mountain then dropped enchanting. You don't need it to equip the trinket.

    Typically whichever window I'm currently focused on is the bear. It's easier to turn the tank so that the mobs are facing away from my DPS than to try to move the 4 other characters behind.

    Level makes all the difference in classic. The difference between being 2 levels higher or 2 levels lower than a mob is huge. If you're not 60 yet just go farm BRD. I farmed a lot of BRD for my HoJ's and some healing items.

    https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-c...0132320015-055

    That's the spec I used for dungeon farming. It's not a typical HoTW spec but my cat DPS is a lot higher and I don't find I need the extra threat from savage fury to hold agro.

    I use a simple castsequence with 4 shreds, ferocious bite. Typically I get a clearcasting proc somewhere in there for a free shred and occasionally the shreds will crit so I waste fewer combo points by biting at 4. Even if I bite at 4, it still does more damage per energy than shred. It's important to spam the key so you bite immediately after a shred otherwise you'll waste all of your pooled energy. Ferocious bite is a relatively small % of your DPS anyway. It doesn't matter if you get it perfect. 90% Of your damage comes from autoattacks and shred.

    Also, if you find yourself hitting a wall you could always go and farm yourself a few crowd pummelers to use as DPS cooldowns. It's time consuming but it's a huge DPS increase for fights you're struggling with.



    I started off by having specific tank, heal and DPS pieces and feeding my healer innervate. At the moment I'm trying to farm gear with high armor and mixed stats with the goal that my druids will have reasonable DPS and EH but also enough regen to be full mana again quicker. I've started collecting the feralheart sets also, as someone mentioned earlier. It has great balanced stats and you can mix in a couple of pieces of hit or crit gear where necessary.

    The dream would be to pick up an item like https://classic.wowhead.com/item=214...-unending-life

    There's not a ton of competition for druid pieces if you can get into a raid as resto. I'm holding on to any BiS resto gear that drops so hopefully I can get into a few GDPK runs.
    I went back to BRD today and switched my setup over to using a single healer, with dynamic tank/healer swapping. After some practice and configuration tweaks it does seem to work pretty well.

    I do need to get more armor for my tank. I could easily do the quest chains for Ring of Protection and Band of the Great Tortoise. I can also respec into Thick Hide, and those combined should give me ~53% damage reduction (about 9% increase).

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