Guide: Moving GSE macros over to ISBoxer - DPS gain

[Elvaranna]

Hi Guys,

i am also using this setup and migrated from GSE to Isboxer rotation. I still use the lazymacro forum for inspiration.
I tried to test my efficiency, by first doing the rotation on my own and then trying out different thing in isboxer to minimize the losses.
This is important for me because i almost never have two of the same class in my group composition.
Depending on the class and spe the ratio can increase quite a lot. I see three main type of DPS spe
-Priority based like Retribution paladin, DH, Warrior, Monk, Demo
-Time based like Assassination rogue
-Proc based like Fire Mage

the first one is the easiest and to be honest i manage to outperform myself.... :$
Most of the paladin abilities are on CD or based on Combos point and cannot be used if the right number of points is not available. Therefore you could imagine that someone mashing the 4 mains abilities would reach almost the same level as a someone actually pressing the right key depending on priority.
In Isboxer this is usually one step with all the abilities inside.

For the time based, i usually will go with a castsequence. I assume for the rogue that two mutilate is enough to reach 5 CP. Therefore i will open with garrote and rupture, then create two cycle of mutilate and envenom and start over. The issue with this is that the cast sequence will stay stuck on a step as long as the ability is not casted. In GSE they would have two keys, with CP build and CP spend. I have not been able to reproduce it in isboxer If someone has an idea, i would welcome it.

the Proc base is something that i still have not figured out... I am considering dedicated bar per character with videoFX next to the group heathbar... However i am still click healing and that would maybe be too much. I am considering switching to focus healing maybe

I am preparing my template for shadowland, and i will share it once it is a bit more polished.

Cheers

PS: i don t post often, but read quite a lot. I just wanted to give a big thanks to Mirai. Without your content i would not be able to enjoy multi boxing as much i as do.

[ovrlrd]

For the time based, i usually will go with a castsequence. I assume for the rogue that two mutilate is enough to reach 5 CP. Therefore i will open with garrote and rupture, then create two cycle of mutilate and envenom and start over. The issue with this is that the cast sequence will stay stuck on a step as long as the ability is not casted. In GSE they would have two keys, with CP build and CP spend. I have not been able to reproduce it in isboxer If someone has an idea, i would welcome it.

CP based rotations are tricky particularly due to what you specified; we can't "check" for combo points on execution (we can't check anything, actually) so you end up "writing down" how many CPs you generated before spending. I think separate keys are almost mandatory here, but then again you'll have an issue with rogues de-synchronizing their CP state and making it somewhat of the same kind of problem. With that said, you can play around the Mapped Key Step State Action, turning the step for finishers off and on based on a timer or on a separate keypress.
You can also try to use castsequence macros directly in IsBoxer that would somewhat trigger based on energy, like this from Hisha:

/castsequence reset=combat Sinister Strike, Slice and Dice, Sinister Strike, Sinister Strike, Pistol Shot, Dispatch, Sinister Strike, Sinister Strike, Pistol Shot, Dispatch

It works from spamming because it is a single step, so it won't try to trigger them in random order; you would still "control" the priority when the next step tries to execute. I don't play rogues so can't test/help but hope these ideas contribute.

the Proc base is something that i still have not figured out... I am considering dedicated bar per character with videoFX next to the group heathbar... However i am still click healing and that would maybe be too much. I am considering switching to focus healing maybe

Depending on how much you want to invest, and depending on your knowledge/willingness to play with lua and weakauras, you could modify something like a combination of this and this; specify on WA which particular spellIDs you want to track and you shouldn't need vfx to see your entire group on any character. This should only work properly if you have different keys for activating the procs, but I can't think of a way to bypass that anyway.

[MadMilitia]

Interesting problem. My GSEs tied to keybinds from IsBoxer. I never noticed an issue inside or outside of Isboxer. All my GSE macros in WoW and bound to keybinds.

I'm curious as to what you were doing before that resulted in that big of a latency difference.

[z0k]

Interesting problem. My GSEs tied to keybinds from IsBoxer. I never noticed an issue inside or outside of Isboxer. All my GSE macros in WoW and bound to keybinds.

I'm curious as to what you were doing before that resulted in that big of a latency difference.

It's basically this. When using GSE, every time you push the button, the game determines whether or not that button can be pushed, and if it can't be used, that button click is useless. GSE switches to a new spell, rinse repeat based on GSE logic. In Isboxer, you're basically pressing all the buttons of a step at once. The first one where that spell is available will be cast.

Without some sort of exploit that duplicates your button presses when you hold a button down, it's almost impossible for you to lose activity time. I spam at about 3-4 button presses a second. Using Isboxer was still a dps gain over the inefficiency of GSE. Which isn't terribly shocking. GSE is also applying some logic in game, which means there's a performative piece in that too. Your client has to send and respond to the server as to whether you're able to cast the spell GSE chose for you.