Best 4 mages arcane/fire mage spec?

[Yukzor]

Does anybody have a mage spec that will take advantage of 4 mages aoe burst damage. I keep hearing about arcane/fire hybris build for upfront burst aoe damage but not sure what talents to pick?

Thank you. Im running 4 mages 1 priest.

[Purpleflavor]

AP Pyro is gonna look like this, give or take a few points here and there depending on playstyle
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#oi0VfocquxxMzrZ0h
The specs arent that dependent for what you're asking, you basically just frost nove, flamestrike, and then wipe up with arcane explosion. You can do that almost equally with any mage spec since those skills aren't attached to anything necessary in the talent trees, just small benefits. So just look for spec stuff that would make your own life easier.

If you want to play around with fire/frost aoe, this spec has incredible off the charts aoe burst with nova, flamestrike, Cone of cold, blastwave and shatter ignite.
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#oZVg0df0uZMAG0obth

[Yukzor]

AP Pyro is gonna look like this, give or take a few points here and there depending on playstyle
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#oi0VfocquxxMzrZ0h
The specs arent that dependent for what you're asking, you basically just frost nove, flamestrike, and then wipe up with arcane explosion. You can do that almost equally with any mage spec since those skills aren't attached to anything necessary in the talent trees, just small benefits. So just look for spec stuff that would make your own life easier.

If you want to play around with fire/frost aoe, this spec has incredible off the charts aoe burst with nova, flamestrike, Cone of cold, blastwave and shatter ignite.
https://classicdb.ch/?talent#oZVg0df0uZMAG0obth

The second fire/frost AOE might be what im looking for!!!! Since i dont have a tank i need to burst down targets asap. I like that combo of fire aoe abilities combined with shatter.

[Apatheist]

I started a mage team recently to see how they compare to my warlocks. I'm liking the elemental spec for leveling. A lot of mage boxing videos people just run around spamming arcane explosion/holy nova and often barely surviving on their mages. With elemental you can control mobs and have huge AE burst with frost nova, flame strike into cone of cold which puts a huge ignite stack on all of the mobs plus a 60% snare that lasts long enough for ignite to wear off, at which point you can frost nova again and repeat. If you do it right you can take almost no damage aside from casters/ranged mobs.

The AP/Pyro spec would definitely be superior for bursting down bosses though. I may respec at 60 when I start farming end game dungeons and the bosses are hard enough to require that level of burst.

My preferred elemental spec at 60: https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-c...50233102051301

I'd go 2 into arcane first, then frost until shatter. Then fire until improved flamestrike and fill out the rest of frost.

[nodoze]

I started a mage team recently to see how they compare to my warlocks. I'm liking the elemental spec for leveling. A lot of mage boxing videos people just run around spamming arcane explosion/holy nova and often barely surviving on their mages. With elemental you can control mobs and have huge AE burst with frost nova, flame strike into cone of cold which puts a huge ignite stack on all of the mobs plus a 60% snare that lasts long enough for ignite to wear off, at which point you can frost nova again and repeat. If you do it right you can take almost no damage aside from casters/ranged mobs.

The AP/Pyro spec would definitely be superior for bursting down bosses though. I may respec at 60 when I start farming end game dungeons and the bosses are hard enough to require that level of burst.

My preferred elemental spec at 60: https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-c...50233102051301

I'd go 2 into arcane first, then frost until shatter. Then fire until improved flamestrike and fill out the rest of frost.

Cool! What level are your mages so far and how do you like them so far compared to your Locks?

[Apatheist]

Cool! What level are your mages so far and how do you like them so far compared to your Locks?

28 So far, I only started them this week. It's hard to make a fair comparison since my warlocks are pretty well geared and 60. I get the feeling so far that the mages are easier to manage at low-mid levels and the warlocks have an easier time clearing end-game dungeons due to being able to straight tank mobs with soul link. Even at low level, a couple of bosses gave me trouble with the mages that were super easy having voidwalker tanks.

In PvP they both have their strengths. The AE burst damage of mages if you get swarmed by a couple of melee is really nice but the warlocks have a much easier time at range with the instant DoT's that you can cast without having to face target. Pretty much what you'd expect.

[Yukzor]

I started a mage team recently to see how they compare to my warlocks. I'm liking the elemental spec for leveling. A lot of mage boxing videos people just run around spamming arcane explosion/holy nova and often barely surviving on their mages. With elemental you can control mobs and have huge AE burst with frost nova, flame strike into cone of cold which puts a huge ignite stack on all of the mobs plus a 60% snare that lasts long enough for ignite to wear off, at which point you can frost nova again and repeat. If you do it right you can take almost no damage aside from casters/ranged mobs.

The AP/Pyro spec would definitely be superior for bursting down bosses though. I may respec at 60 when I start farming end game dungeons and the bosses are hard enough to require that level of burst.

My preferred elemental spec at 60: https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-c...50233102051301

I'd go 2 into arcane first, then frost until shatter. Then fire until improved flamestrike and fill out the rest of frost.

Thank you. I will try this also.

[Apatheist]

Just make sure you set up a convenient backpedal key to use when using CoC/arcane explosion.

Backpedaling decreases melee leeway by 50% so you won't be hit in the back by mobs from a mile away and potentially dazed. Never thought I'd be advocating backpedaling in an MMO