Wrongful ban and a warning to those who box to farm

[MiRai]

Everything you said in the above quote is 100% false. Blizzard does not have access to anything outside of the game client.

It's slightly different. Based on the ToS, it says

WHILE RUNNING, THE PLATFORM AND/OR A GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S MEMORY FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING EITHER CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME OR OUT OF PROCESS. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 1.C.ii. ABOVE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, (A) THE GAME MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (B) BLIZZARD MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO YOU.

I can't confirm it, but from what I read here and there, the client will scan the processes (and its memory) that attached themselves to the client. Apparently Warden is not that of a sophisticated application, it makes checks here and there in the client, but that's it. However, the client actively looks for infringing patterns in the memory and processes it scans (based on public bots and well known "cheating" libraries).

When I say "the game client" I am talking about what is loaded into the memory space of your machine, from where the game client is operating from. What isn't true, at all, is what I quoted:

They have direct access to all your hardrives and thumbdrives etc. Doublecheck those aswell, maybe you had some program/software active at one time, which you tried out at one point.

Whichever pc you have installed wow / battle.net on, they have access to it. Even if you maybe dont use it to play on any longer. If you use that pc for other things while playing wow on a different pc, if any shaddy programs is on the other pc, they can find it. The best way to clear it, is to completely re-install the os, so everything get wiped.

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Now putting my tin foil, you could then imagine that they have the possibility to get your Isboxer setup (passed on to Innerspace) or even your discord discussions when they inject their dll to the game.

Blizzard is aware of the fact that Inner Space is loaded into the game client—it's 100% visible and not being obfuscated because there's no reason to do that; Warden can see that it's loaded in there, and Warden doesn't care. If Warden cared, multiboxing with Inner Space would have ended a long time ago.

In addition, Blizzard isn't downloading anything from your computer, unrelated to the game, because that's entirely illegal. They don't know what you're discussing on Discord, they don't know what tabs are open in your browser, they don't know your download history, and they don't have your ISBoxer profile. Even if they did have any of this information, simply discussing or visiting sites that offer gold and/or bots doesn't mean that you buy gold, sell gold, or use bots.

I feel that the above needs to be repeated from time to time because people either forget, or new people show up. So, I'm not aiming this at you, specifically, but, based on some of what's already been posted in this thread, some people think that Warden has complete control of their computer.

[charly]

I feel that the above needs to be repeated from time to time because people either forget, or new people show up. So, I'm not aiming this at you, specifically, but, based on some of what's already been posted in this thread, some people think that Warden has complete control of their computer.

I understand the need to repeat that the game client does not invade the players privacy without consent. It would be illegal as you said, and people would quickly find out about it. I obviously did not explain my reasoning correctly. I tried to explain that the game client does not limit itself to its own user space. WoW runs with admin privileges and the process has been caught checking windows title, windows icon and opening binaries from processes that attached themselves to the client. That anti-cheating mechanism has actually no name, and is not related to Warden which only focuses on checks within the game client process. All in all, we don't know exactly what the game client does outside of the game scope, and although I reasonably think it does not invade privacy, we don't know what Blizzard deems to be ethical. My "tin foil" thought was definitely too extreme and not useful to this discussion, but I would not be surprised that, in the future, they would cross more boundaries to improve their anti-cheating mechanism while not making sure that the players understand what's happening on their machine. It is not all black or white in this situation.