10 * 3440x1440 - hardware suggestions

[MiRai]

Got up to 8 accounts in Dalaran. FPS dropped to 10-12 FPS at a peak hour. So I think my 10 boxing is put off. I wasn't even in 3440x1440. More like 2752x1152.

Seemed fine around 50FPS in open world though. This is with all slaves at 1 and main at 7 (gfx slider).

You aren't going to be able 10-box at that resolution with 4GB of VRAM. I'll bet you're pushing the limit right now with only five game clients running.

New Dalaran slows down even solo players. I cant bring 5 there without constantly losing follow, stuttering, etc. Everyplace else is fine though, open world, dungeons, raids, lfr even.

Y'all need to upgrade your hardware. Here are some laps in Dalaran

[MadMilitia]

Yes you're definitely going to need more than my old beast to do what you want. I guess its more of an example on no need to go overboard just to run 10.

Some tricks I use in Dalaran, click all portals one at a time, same with flight paths. Dismiss pets, and use dual-person mounts. But yes those are just bandaides and I may very well be needing a new computer in 4 months to do this in BfA.

Yeah the number of doodads in close proximity on the capitals for BFA might be better or worse than Dalaran which was never a good idea to begin with. No idea yet and that one is a major problem for me.

I thought about adding a mage if I did 10s and just visit capitals on 1 or 2 characters at a time. To ease the pain.I guess that's another way to do it.

You aren't going to be able 10-box at that resolution with 4GB of VRAM. I'll bet you're pushing the limit right now with only five game clients running.

That's what I was afraid of. If I wanted to do this right I think I need another 1080 running 5 more on another ultrawide monitor. The CPU seems fine with the load and I could upgrade memory while I'm in there.

Y'all need to upgrade your hardware. Here are some laps in Dalaran

Is this on a 1080 or a titan?

[MiRai]

Is this on a 1080 or a titan?

As per the overlay in the bottom left (which may be a little small on some displays), it is a 1080 Ti.

[Lyonheart]

As per the overlay in the bottom left (which may be a little small on some displays), it is a 1080 Ti.

I use a TI as well.. i only have 16gigs of pc ram though. But i dont get the kind of lag that makes you lose follow etc. 3440x1440 as well. The Ti 12gigs of ram helps so much.

[MadMilitia]

You aren't going to be able 10-box at that resolution with 4GB of VRAM. I'll bet you're pushing the limit right now with only five game clients running.

I missed mention of this but that card is a 1080 founders which is listed at 8GB of VRAM. So it's not bad. Main at 7 slaves at 1 in Dalaran comes to lower 30s when running through on 5. It can occasionally crunch to high 20s when running through a pack of players though. Outside of capital cities this feels hardened to me. At least going into the next expansion.

With the GPU prices dropping I may plug another 1080 in or a Ti and spin up another display for another 5 man team. Not sure if I want to do that yet though. Might wait until BFA has been out a while. I guess another option would be to make the slaves 1080p at 16:9 so it's less stress on the lone GPU. But then I lose broadcasting. So eh, pros and cons either way.

[MiRai]

I missed mention of this but that card is a 1080 founders which is listed at 8GB of VRAM.

Re-reading the thread, I've NFC why I replied with that. I must've had something else on my mind at the time, so I've 'lined out' that reply.

[MadMilitia]

Re-reading the thread, I've NFC why I replied with that. I must've had something else on my mind at the time, so I've 'lined out' that reply.

John mentioned his 980 so I'm guessing that's what it was.

Now that you're here..

I did the upgrade to 10 accounts last night. I tinkered a bit and found that my CPU is maxed. Dialing down to 1920x1080 seems to have fixed all that.

[MadMilitia]

So after taking the plunge to 10 box on my current rig I've been thinking. It seems my bottleneck now is the CPU and not the GPU as we've discussed. I was considering adding a new machine to handle the 5 new accounts but then I saw this: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80673...075XRYMDR?th=1

Pricey CPU but 18 cores? Would that be ideal for a 10+ box rig? Genuinely curious if anyone has gone this route and what benefits they saw.

[WOWBOX40]

So after taking the plunge to 10 box on my current rig I've been thinking. It seems my bottleneck now is the CPU and not the GPU as we've discussed. I was considering adding a new machine to handle the 5 new accounts but then I saw this: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80673...075XRYMDR?th=1

Pricey CPU but 18 cores? Would that be ideal for a 10+ box rig? Genuinely curious if anyone has gone this route and what benefits they saw.

On one of my machines i run a older 6 core 12 threads, 980 ti, 64 gig ram: 10 games, all on low settings and 1080p.
It run well i think, but the fps can drop a bit at hectic times, though its playable no problem.

My grafiichcard isnt "maxed" out on its vram yet, but the cpu is at times.


With a much better cpu you will ofcourse have a lot more headroom. I currently have 2 cores assigned per game. I would imagine if you had 4, that would be ideal.



I had the same plan as you, but decided instead to go down the multiple computer route.

I have the one computer that runs 10.

I have 1 computer that runs only my "main" game, so i can run it at "settings 7" buttersmooth on its own 144 hz monitor.

For my other games i have 1 computer per 5 games.
(any older 6 core/12 threads, 32 gb ram and f.ex a 1060 6 gb vram card and two 60 hz 1080p monitor for each. This way, if you buy a vertical monitor stand for 2 monitors, you can have the "main game" of the 5 on the lower one and the other 4 on the above one, and you can switch between them, whenever you need to do some "5man playing" on that computer)

Its a major hassle to set it up... but i dont regret it, not now atleast.



The only thing i want to "improve", is cutting down from 10 to 5 on my one omputer and instead get 1 more pc to run 5, so i get rid of the small bottleneck on the pc thats currently playing 10 games.



it MIGHT be possible to smoothly play with the latest upcoming amd 32 core cpu and if you have a 32 vram gfx card, 128 gb ram etc. But its going to cost a fair bit i would imagine.
Currently i have my doubt about it, ive thought about getting one to play 3 battlenets on (24 games). I fear that it will hit cpu bottleneck. In the end, it doesnt have enough to run the total amount of games i wish for anyway (more than 24) . So much for the "1 pc for everything".



If you do some searching around and even buy a lot used, you will be able to create many good machines for max 5 games on each, and you never have to worry about bottlenecks.
Not to mention, you will not have to worry at all about getting proper watercooling, as any decent big air cooler and/or "closed loop liquid cpu cooler" will work like a charm. Wave goodbye to those boring maintanance times.

Though, as i mentioned, warning.. it will take a long time to setup




If you are not in any hurry, and have some funds good to go, i probably would wait til we get reviews of the new amd 32 core. It could be the one to get for "up to 24 games". Fingers crossed.
I wonder what the 32 gb gfx card will cost though haha


Found the nvidia one here...
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13004...-v-ceo-edition

[MadMilitia]

Hey WB40,

I've been building PCs since I was 19. About 20 years ago! So no stranger to the day-long approach of hardware and software setup. I didn't know AMD was coming out with a 32 core processor. Thanks for the heads up. Though I imagine the clock speeds aren't as good as the intel variants. I'll have to read up on it.

I will probably go the new machine route as it's the path of least resistance. Either way looks like a completely new system. Things are fine at 1920x1080 but I don't want to go into BFA like this. So a new machine is probably a week or two out. Then I'll have my head in isboxer multiple PC guides.