Quote Originally Posted by Tool of Society View Post
Gilas cost more and aren't as effective now due to a loss of a low slot. VNIs are my low cost alternative and I use a claymore to boost so basically the same concept.

I've technically been boxing pvp but it's been very small time stuff. I'm just trying to move up to bigger things. I also haven't actually done logi in a pvp fight in ages so I wanted to get warmed up :P
Probably not what you're looking for, but 100mn Huginn or Rapier is hilarious as a DDD because you can't really get caught. I haven't looked but you can probably stuff 100mn ABs onto a VNI.

On topic of isk grinding, fastest way I think post-ban is Self-Tanking Rattlers with Geckos. I've tweaked the German's fit and found that CCCs give better cap Regen and cap stability than the Safeguard rigs he had on, and you lower your sig a bit because no penalty from the shield rigs.

Also, AAR of Assaults with USTZ / ISN Secondary:

I managed to help get their Assaults rolling with my sentry snakes and Rapier. The first night I could only squeeze in 4+1 because they cross-recruited from ISN, but the second night I got 7+1 going for a while. I mentioned I'd be willing to buy a squad of Tachmares or Machs for HQs if we ever get em going, and they were fairly receptive to that idea.