Follow In Battlegrounds Broken After 5.2

[Fat Tire]

So, you are going to farm honor gear by instances? And why get pvp gear if you can only do arena with it, other players that are = gear as you and have more cc control. Arena atm is all about who gets the first blow.

Why would I need to do the honor grind? I have full 2/2 gear from S12. Only time I will need to do the honor grind is next expansion or if I bring up a new team. I only box 2/3 in arena and I enjoy the challenge and I have done well except this season where I got rocked pretty hard mostly, but S8-S11 I did pretty good. I also play arenas and rbgs solo alot as well.

Why would I gear up just to aoe people to death in AV like all the other mouthbreathers completely devoid of any challenge. That doesnt make sense to me, but whatever floats their boat.

[Shodokan]

Why would I need to do the honor grind? I have full 2/2 gear from S12. Only time I will need to do the honor grind is next expansion or if I bring up a new team. I only box 2/3 in arena and I enjoy the challenge and I have done well except this season where I got rocked pretty hard mostly, but S8-S11 I did pretty good. I also play arenas and rbgs solo alot as well.

Why would I gear up just to aoe people to death in AV like all the other mouthbreathers completely devoid of any challenge. That doesnt make sense to me, but whatever floats their boat.

I had to [destroy] the mouth breathers in AV all weekend on my dks since i didn't bother gearing past the 3rd week last season and just made gold mostly.

85% win ratio isn't bad though.

Gearing up my rogue/mage/warriors/paladins and shaman with 2's and everything this season though. Don't wanna make the same mistake twice. Won't be competitive on my dks for like 2 months but thats k as I'm splitting them up for glad this season I hope.

[Rosebud]

Why would I need to do the honor grind? I have full 2/2 gear from S12. Only time I will need to do the honor grind is next expansion or if I bring up a new team. I only box 2/3 in arena and I enjoy the challenge and I have done well except this season where I got rocked pretty hard mostly, but S8-S11 I did pretty good. I also play arenas and rbgs solo alot as well.

Why would I gear up just to aoe people to death in AV like all the other mouthbreathers completely devoid of any challenge. That doesnt make sense to me, but whatever floats their boat.

I like pvp, but I hate arenas and would never do them. My characters do not have any pvp gear yet as I just finished leveling. I could buy some crafted, but I'd just get destroyed in arenas, which I hate anyway. My favorite is random battlegrounds. I'm just a dual-boxer, so I doubt that me wanting to play in bgs is really aoeing people to death. I would have to just take them in one at a time, but I paid for the second account and Isboxer in order to dual box. So, for me, it is paying for half of the game content - even less because dual boxing doesn't let me solo raids/dungeons.

[blast3r]

I respectfully request for people not to use the word "rape" when describing gaming. It is offensive and is a horrible thing that happens to mostly women and destroys lives.

[Janus]

If in LFR, people are vocal enough, that the boxer is taking their loot by taking too many slots in the raid... will that be removed too?

My 2 cents on this is for people not to queue in LFR if they intend to multibox. What would the point be? We have other ways to do PVE in cross realm raids, where no one will whine on who is taking what loot. Let's face it, we have a bad rep, and patly is because we brought it on ourselves. Adding fuel to the fire (especially now) and getting more crippling blows to our playstyle is counterproductive, when the alternative (setting a cross realm raid) is easier, and readily available.

I have been mboxing PVE for over 5 years now. That's all I do. I adapt with each patch/change to make the best out of it and I have a pretty well geared team that I enjoy playing. Do I do LFR? Sure! But I do it on my tank because it's a quick join. Also, it boosts my VP for the week and with the 50% buff for the rest of my toons, i cap them quicker. There is no point joining a 25 man raid with all 5 of my toons, because I know i will not be able to control them as efficiently as if I were doing a dungeon or raiding with another boxer, AND I will be getting QQ from little kids whining and going to their mommy crying that the game is unfair.

Food for thought...

[Fat Tire]

I like pvp, but I hate arenas and would never do them. My characters do not have any pvp gear yet as I just finished leveling. I could buy some crafted, but I'd just get destroyed in arenas, which I hate anyway. My favorite is random battlegrounds. I'm just a dual-boxer, so I doubt that me wanting to play in bgs is really aoeing people to death. I would have to just take them in one at a time, but I paid for the second account and Isboxer in order to dual box. So, for me, it is paying for half of the game content - even less because dual boxing doesn't let me solo raids/dungeons.

Well one option that I did even before the follow fiasco with only dual boxing, is I have two monitors so I just had each character full screen and didnt have to swap monitors. I just took control of each going back and forth when I wanted. I did this alot with double mages since I hated turning to face the target and it worked great. I used the raf mount and didnt really use follow alot, like I do with melee.

[Rosebud]

Well one option that I did even before the follow fiasco with only dual boxing, is I have two monitors so I just had each character full screen and didnt have to swap monitors. I just took control of each going back and forth when I wanted. I did this alot with double mages since I hated turning to face the target and it worked great. I used the raf mount and didnt really use follow alot, like I do with melee.

I'm probably not all that versed in dual boxing to do that successfully. I do have melee too. In battlegrounds it seems so awkward since an area of battle requires so much movement. Mounting just to move to the other end of a skirmish seems awkward. It probably isn't for experienced players. Guess I could just defend something but if I only defend, which I know can be helpful. I'd probably get reported.

It's sort of a big deal to me. IF I had known this was going to happen a few months ago, I wouldn't have purchased another account/games, and I wouldn't have subbed for three years to Isboxer. I accepted not soloing dungeons or raids, but I had quests and bgs. Now, I just have quests. Exciting, right?

[luxlunae]

I respectfully request for people not to use the word "rape" when describing gaming. It is offensive and is a horrible thing that happens to mostly women and destroys lives.

this makes me feel uncomfortable as well.

And the way that LFR loot was before, it made people mad but I don't think anyone in LFR now would care because there is no proof that you took a piece of gear that they wanted. I'd advise that people be courteous and only go in with 1-2 toons if you're going to be the bottom of the pile on dps, but if you do fine dps then who cares or will even notice.

[Fat Tire]

Exciting, right?

Yea it sucks, but if it gets rid of the boxers who run random bgs even after they are already honor geared or higher who then are essentially greiefing players. These players who are usually in green+blues and are using random bgs for the intended purpose of getting geared up (almost like using a book for dummies) then I see the change only as a plus. Its also in my opinion on what brought the change about.

[MiRai]

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