The threw us a bone?

[Sam DeathWalker]

I fully agree with heyaz except for:

Blizzard makes >$140,000,000 per month from subs. We're not an army, or even a large community. The bogus math like "there are 40k forum members on DB if only 1/4 five that's 50000 accounts!" is just ludicrous. A more conservative estimate would be like... about 1000 active boxers with 3-5 accounts each. It's probably more like 500 people boxing 5 or more and actively renewing subs over the years

If if you count dual boxers also the figure will go way up, also because boxers are hard core players each hard core player who leaves a game costs a number of casuals also. All games want hard cores because it is they who post, who make videos, lead guilds, have blogs, have video feeds. etc. For 1000 people we sure are extremely visible. How many people joined wow when reading about prepared boxing 40 accounts or whatever a few years ago? Of course the fact that 10X more people read the bot forum then this forum has got to say something also.

[TRoN]

I fully agree with heyaz except for:

If if you count dual boxers also the figure will go way up, also because boxers are hard core players each hard core player who leaves a game costs a number of casuals also. All games want hard cores because it is they who post, who make videos, lead guilds, have blogs, have video feeds. etc. For 1000 people we sure are extremely visible. How many people joined wow when reading about prepared boxing 40 accounts or whatever a few years ago? Of course the fact that 10X more people read the bot forum then this forum has got to say something also.

^^this