Recent Wave of Account Actions

[Shodokan]

Are we 100% sure its connected to the /report tool?

Its not click to move
Its not interact with target
Its not being AFK (since they are doing damage/healing they are NOT afk)

What else COULD it be?

[zenga]

Its not click to move
Its not interact with target
Its not being AFK (since they are doing damage/healing they are NOT afk)

What else COULD it be?

I believe so. The blues have been silent on it. There is really no other way they could have done this. Too much sophistication going other routes. I'm a software developer and in this regard I've thought it over and yeah.. they are using the playerbase and the /report tool to do this. That's why multiboxers are getting hit.

I find this method too easy: since its not ABC it has to be D. There is many behind the scenes stuff and we have no frigging clue how or what. But detection software in general works with pattern comparison. They compare A with the pattern of the bot data they have/caught, then B, then C, etc ... and multiboxers get caught in crossfire. It's really pure speculation. But apart from I think it's very unlikely that most people start to mass report multiboxers in bg's all in a sudden. and that this is the sole reason.

They could compared for example how toons move, if a toon never actively goes right or left or forward it might lead to a false positive. The same with target acquiring. Not saying it's that, just saying that it's way too easy to jump to conclusions based on what we know.

[MadMilitia]

I find this method too easy: since its not ABC it has to be D. There is many behind the scenes stuff and we have no frigging clue how or what. But detection software in general works with pattern comparison. They compare A with the pattern of the bot data they have/caught, then B, then C, etc ... and multiboxers get caught in crossfire. It's really pure speculation. But apart from I think it's very unlikely that most people start to mass report multiboxers in bg's all in a sudden. and that this is the sole reason.

They could compared for example how toons move, if a toon never actively goes right or left or forward it might lead to a false positive. The same with target acquiring. Not saying it's that, just saying that it's way too easy to jump to conclusions based on what we know.

Didn't work out that way. People didn't just start reporting multiboxers. They've been doing so since multiboxers existed.

What Lax stated is what I'm talking about. The review of the accounts got moved to some automated system that runs a detection algorithm and that is what is suspending people. It isn't a person. A person investigating would see my team with like names and all mogged gear and laugh it off. Bans and suspensions used to work off of a cycle. Now it seems like the suspensions are all over the place. They definitely automated this part. Now what they automated is unknown. Theoretically it could be they are tracking how often /follow is used, or they could be tracking proximity to other players. Or they could quite simply be looking for X number of /reports. That seems rather simple but it wouldn't surprise me considering the randomness everyone is seeing with it. Some people aren't suspended for weeks while others go a day or two. Something like that in my mind points clearly to the abuse of the /report tool.

Lets think of it this way. Most of us here use Isboxer. Most of us have toons with same names and mogged gear, or so I assume. I'm also sure that some of us are running same class squads too which is pretty obvious that they are chaining GCDs and movement. We aren't all that different from one another so, logically, if the automated detection system bans a player for X number of offenses, and each of us perform X number of offenses similarly we should all be getting the same amount of suspensions. We aren't. So it has to be more reliant on the /report part of it than the automated detection system.

I believe there is another factor and that is SoR accounts. These accounts are being sold from 5-10 dollars each and then being used to bot in huge numbers sometimes by a single person for gold/account selling. There is a rumor that blizz is watching these accounts more and has set the threshold lower.

I am not sure if anyone here is aware how advanced botting has become. The dps routines,way point configs, macro set up and the variables used in combat including cc is amazing, people bot PvE more than pvp. If someone didnt know any better and saw a person muti boxing 4 or 4 botted characters on follow of the same class I am willing to wager they wouldnt know the difference.

They would because botting is not what multiboxing is today. Multiboxing is much less fluid and appears to the average WoW player as multiboxing. Botting itself is hardly detectable by the eye anymore. Unless the BG is loaded with them. They know when they see multiboxers. Hence the /spit, 'reported' messages and all the other tripe we get from them. They wouldn't bother replying if it were a bot.

I kinda thought maybe the proximity thing and /follow was an issue because the way the bots work today is they do all their normal routines but they follow someone around the map. So there is that proximity thing and the /follow thing most likely as well. I haven't looked at the newer bots but knowing what bots could do back in EQ1, I'd say they are quite advanced now.