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    The majority of users on this site box at least four toons.
    Many box five or ten toons.

    Four or five toons is a severe drawback to your team, in most 10-man battleground environments.
    It is increased power, but loss of flexibility in the 15-man battlegrounds with EotS being the one that really shines for 5-boxers.
    AB isn't particularly good or bad boxed.

    The 40-man BGs are the primary strong option for 5-box and 10-box teams.
    They are not an option for Rated Battleground play, only the smaller BGs where boxing is usually a disadvantage for your team.

    Does it surprise you that most boxers prefer to run the 40-man BGs over the 10-man & 15-man BGs?



    Similarly, is it surprising that people want to play with their friends?
    Or that they want to coordinate to win their battlegrounds?

    Sure, I agree that when it is 30 coordinated boxed toons, in a 40-man battleground...
    And the other side is randoms, it is not exactly fair.
    Or in the case of RathStrat (Horde) or QQ (Alliance), 25-35 coordinated players boxed or not vs a random group... same lack of fairness.

    When we run into an organized opposition, those games are by far the most fun.
    Even if we only win half of them.
    I would take coordinated vs coordinated play, in 40-man BGs over the current 'Random' or 'Rated' options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    When we run into an organized opposition, those games are by far the most fun.
    Even if we only win half of them.
    I would take coordinated vs coordinated play, in 40-man BGs over the current 'Random' or 'Rated' options.
    You do know you can AV rath vs qq to your hearts content via wargame, right? You dont even need 40v40, you can do 10v10 AV.

    Since the only thing you are after is coordinated vs coordinated play.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    You do know you can AV rath vs qq to your hearts content via wargame, right? You dont even need 40v40, you can do 10v10 AV. Since the only thing you are after is coordinated vs coordinated play.......
    This is restricted by the fact that you can only challenge someone on your own server to a wargame. While not completely breaking, you'll have to go through the trouble of ensuring that each team has someone from the same server. You also have to factor in that there are no rewards for wargames. Why would someone want to play a bg with no rewards when the game is designed around rewarding people for their actions and contributions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaTCarbS View Post
    This is restricted by the fact that you can only challenge someone on your own server to a wargame. While not completely breaking, you'll have to go through the trouble of ensuring that each team has someone from the same server. You also have to factor in that there are no rewards for wargames. Why would someone want to play a bg with no rewards when the game is designed around rewarding people for their actions and contributions?


    No more an inconvenience than counting down on vent when to hit the queue button, plus you ensure an even playing field.

    Why does there need to be rewards. I thought people just wanted coordinated vs coordinated AV? There it is.

    There are rewards rated bgs unless I missed something...in both cases you get to queue with your friends and have coordinated vs coordinated battlegrounds.
    Last edited by Fat Tire : 12-02-2012 at 06:07 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    You do know you can AV rath vs qq to your hearts content via wargame, right? You dont even need 40v40, you can do 10v10 AV.

    Since the only thing you are after is coordinated vs coordinated play.......
    Sure thing.

    Give me honor for the kills... and have the kills count towards my 250,000 HK achievement.
    Give me conquest for the first match on the day, or conquest points for each 'Random' 40-man BG victory.

    Or alternatively, give me maximum gearing immediately and all of the pvp achieves.
    And then Wargames against multiple equally coordinated opponent teams, not the same team each match.
    Preferably with multiple boxers on both sides, roughly half multi-box and half solo-boxed.



    I want a reward for my play time.
    And I want to play coordinated 40 man battlegrounds.
    Not 10/15 man games.
    Last edited by Ualaa : 12-02-2012 at 10:27 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    Sure thing.

    Give me honor for the kills... and have the kills count towards my 250,000 HK achievement.
    Give me conquest for the first match on the day, or conquest points for each 'Random' 40-man BG victory.

    Or alternatively, give me maximum gearing immediately and all of the pvp achieves.
    And then Wargames against multiple equally coordinated opponent teams, not the same team each match.
    Preferably with multiple boxers on both sides, roughly half multi-box and half solo-boxed.



    I want a reward for my play time.
    And I want to play coordinated 40 man battlegrounds.
    Not 10/15 man games.

    You're playing the wrong game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    You're playing the wrong game.
    Heaven forbid people aren't satisfied with the status quo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaTCarbS View Post
    Heaven forbid people aren't satisfied with the status quo.
    I agree entirely, I am guessing it was the main reason for the change.

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