LFR whiners

[MiRai]

Though, I don't think causing wipes would make LFRing any easier for boxing community.

Exactly this.

[valkry]

Agree!

Though, I don't think causing wipes would make LFRing any easier for boxing community.

Because using rational arguments helps SO much... I'm with Clovis, I'm over it, fuk em!! Soon as they kick 1 toon for being a boxer, wipes ensue.

[MiRai]

Because using rational arguments helps SO much... I'm with Clovis, I'm over it, fuk em!! Soon as they kick 1 toon for being a boxer, wipes ensue.

And what does that accomplish? I don't think anyone is telling you to use rational arguments against a mob of uninformed people once part of your team has already been removed from the raid. I think what multiboxers would like is for other multiboxers not to be douchebags to the rest of the gaming community so that they don't have to answer for something they haven't done.

Isn't intentionally wiping the raid group over and over considered "griefing"? Can you not be reported for such idiotic acts?

[Shodokan]

And what does that accomplish? I don't think anyone is telling you to use rational arguments against a mob of uninformed people once part of your team has already been removed from the raid. I think what multiboxers would like is for other multiboxers not to be douchebags to the rest of the gaming community so that they don't have to answer for something they haven't done.

Isn't intentionally wiping the raid group over and over considered "griefing"? Can you not be reported for such idiotic acts?

Indeed it is.

Also I agree... I get enough shit from people as it stands. Don't pull shit like this to make us all look bad.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

If I can roll need, I do it on all 5 regardless if I actually want that item or not. Enhance/Hunter loot? Something I already have? Thanks for the vendor gold!

If people do complain and manage to kick one of my shamans, I'll start the next encounter and cause a wipe. Then self res, mass res everyone and start the encounter immediately. If they're going to vote kick me for simply multiboxing, fuck them. I can usually wipe them 3-4 times before they get all 5 out of the raid.

Correct me if I'm reading you wrong but basically what you're saying is that you choose to be a douchebag just because someone else was a douchebag? "But MOM! He did it first!" Is that an incorrect read of your position? I'm curious to hear how you think this reflects on our "vanishingly small" community.

[Crum1515]

Ah, the classic "I do whatever the fuck I want and don't care how it impacts people directly or indirectly." Good to know that we have boxers actively working to ensure that if anyone was on the fence with the general feelings towards/about multiboxing that they come away with a negative view after grouping. Kudos.

Maybe later you can go protest military funerals, or murder old people. Cuz I mean hey, fuck, if you can, you're gonna do it right. You don't care about collateral damage.

[Fat Tire]

[Clovis]

So, when people grief me for being a boxer, I should just take it and not retaliate in anyway? Be the bigger person perhaps? Okay... gotcha!

If people are going to kick me in LFR, which say if that happens on Deathwing means I have to re-queue (a 20+ minute wait inself) and do the entire instance over again, then fuck em!

When evil rears it's ugly head, we don't need to hurt it. We need to love it, hold it and feed it tofu.

[Mercurio]

So Clovis, you say that you roll on everything you possibly can every chance you get even if you don't need it for the benefit of 20 gold? When the VAST majority of other people who rolled on it truly need it because they want an upgrade and be able to benefit the people they play with in the future?

THEN you wipe the raid over and over if they kick one of your guys?

Who is really being evil here?


Hey, I know that when you get kicked it stinks. It really does. But most people just mindlessly click "Yes" to any kick request. Assuming that you weren't doing anything stupid in the raid and were pulling your own weight (and I fully believe you were playing as you should have), about 5-6 jerks used "Vote to Kick" on you. The problem is, you can't punish them. If you could, I'd honestly be all for it. However, in my experience, it is rare that you can single out the evil behavior you rightly disdain and punish it. The primary thing you are doing at that point is punishing the 15 people in the group who didn't initiate the vote and just want to play the game, finish the raid and be on their way, and not get griefed.

I know it sucks when you get kicked and we have a tendency to get angry and lash out. I've come close to doing so on a few occasions when I felt particularly singled out. However, what I came to realize is that, even if I don't care about anyone else but myself, the most selfish thing I could do at that point is to finish out the instance with my remaining toons or drop group and queue for another run. By griefing the raid you are wasting your own play time. If people can get you to waste your own time and do something that doesn't advance your goals in the game, they have truly beaten you.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

So, when people grief me for being a boxer, I should just take it and not retaliate in anyway?

What are you hoping to accomplish by retaliation? Upon whom would you heap your mighty vengeance?