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    I've never tried to. You might also just try to delete everything but that.

    Itll only take me a few minutes to get you a generic setup for two characters.

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    Okay. I have been playing the Diablo3 Beta for a bit today.
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    Malgor,

    One last thing... make sure that when you start up your game, you press "Home" to activate SLOT 1 key maps. And if you click into your alt's window to focus and activate it, you need to press "Page Up" to activate SLOT 2 key maps.

    Anytime you are playing from your main, just start out by pressing "Home" a couple of times and if you switch to your Alt, just press "Page Up" a couple of times. I have a feeling that will solve your problem... hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malgor View Post
    Congratulations, Riiker on the new baby! Always very excited for those having new babies!Congratulations to you too, Apps for adding to your brood as well!
    Thanks much. I'm super excited to be a new father again. Being a dad at 37 is FAR different from being a dad at 19. I'm more calm, relaxed, actually enjoying the child I created. Love all my boys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Malgor View Post
    Upon further checking. I did not have the latest version of ISBoxer. I do now.` still works to target my main window character and follow him after I imported from ISBoxer the set up Riiker sent me.When I target a target on my main window and press F6 it says "Target has no target" on my main window and nothing happens on my second window. When I click to my second window while my first window has a target and my second window has my first window character selected and hit F6 he does acquire the target my first window has as a target. So it appears the F6 key works, but only in the current window. In ISBoxer it shows that Acquire Targets Target is supposed to be All w/o current, but that seems to not be happening.
    Huston, you have a problem... and I know what the solution is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Riiker View Post
    Malgor,One last thing... make sure that when you start up your game, you press "Home" to activate SLOT 1 key maps. And if you click into your alt's window to focus and activate it, you need to press "Page Up" to activate SLOT 2 key maps.Anytime you are playing from your main, just start out by pressing "Home" a couple of times and if you switch to your Alt, just press "Page Up" a couple of times. I have a feeling that will solve your problem... hopefully.

    All the help Riker is doing here to assist, just fell apart with this. I applaud him for his efforts. Lets straighten this out. The above reference to the "Home" and "PageUp" keys needs to be addressed first.

    So, lets give Riker some time to tend to his family and I will help you, Malgor, to finish this setup.

    Few things.

    Using click swap, without a key press can get mucked up fast.
    Abandon the click swap. I realize it seems convenient, however once you start using key swap, and realize how well it will work for you, I guarantee you wont go back to click swap.... Heres why.... You can swap screens, characters, AND load up specific map key sets with one button press. No need to swap, and press a button to load the right key map set.

    I.e. (I'll refer to my own setup as example. I play with a mouse in right hand, and WASD keys with the left. Given my left hand also covers the main DPS rotation keys "1 thru 6", I use F1, F2, F3, and F4 to swap windows... they are easy and within reach... So, F1 = player 1; F2 = Player 2 etc etc) When I press F1, ISBoxer swaps to that screen, deactivates the other screens as the leader, thus only the player 1 is the leader, sending keys to the rest (via ISBoxer), as well as playing his own.

    ***EDIT** Found a potential problem area.
    Be sure to Edit your in-game keybinds to the following:
    “Home” UNBIND
    “Page UP” UNBIND
    ~ = Target Party Member1
    F6 = Acquire Targets Target
    F7 = Follow Target

    What Id like to see accomplished is, you being able to identify how to write a new file, from scratch, and understand why. Since you made the comment that you thought you had it down with WoW and now feel a bit hazy,... well, thats indicative that Lax deserves mad props for the scripts he writes for the WoW wizard. Thats the goal. To make it very simple. Unfortunately, SWToR doesnt have the FTL modifiers in the game... so, we have to write them for ourselves, and they are character slot specific.(In case youre wondering FTL stands for Follow Me, Target Me, and Assist Me. ((I dunno why an "L" and not an "A")))So... lets get started with a new file.

    1. I want you to delete your Character Set for these toons. (Since I dont know their names, I'll call them toonA or tA and toonB or tB)

    2. If your toons are already loaded in the Character section, leave them be.

    3. Make a new Character set.To do this, simply right click and choose new. Name it something thats easily identifable.. like "2 man Inquisitors"Note that its fairly empty. We need to add some charcters to it.

    4. Click on your characters at the top to expand the fields and expose the names of tA and tB from the Characters section.

    5. Click on your newly created Character Sets name, so that you can see your Character Set build tree in the lower left.(With the bottom left pane open, mouse to the top, and scroll the top pane till you see your characters, click and drag their names down into the bottom left window (should be the character set screen), and watch ISBoxer auto-populate your two character slots... now tA is in character slot 1, and tB is in character slot 2.
    Last edited by Apps : 03-13-2012 at 03:54 PM Reason: found a potential problem... addressing it before it becomes one... in RED

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    6. Click back to your Character Set, and note the General tab… lets review some of the bottom Right pane…
    “Launch each Character 5.0 seconds after another is ready”

    You can change the checkboxes as you see fit, but for now, lets just leave them all alone. I only want you to ensure your checkbox for “Make game believe it is foreground window” is checked.



    7. Now click on the “1” in the lower left pane so we can edit the Character slot 1.

    (Since Riker has you using “Page Up” and “Home”, I’ll keep using those, however please note, you can change these to whatever makes better sense to you.)
    You should see a “Switching” tab at the top of the bottom pane.

    8. At the field “Hotkey to switch to this character”… click the “<” button and then press the “Home” key.

    9. Now click on the “2” in the lower left pane so we can edit the Character slot 2.

    10. Same as number 8, at the field “Hotkey to switch to this character” … click the “<” button and press the “Page Up” key.

    (I used the F keys as indicted above)


    *Checkpoint*
    So, what we’ve done thus far is, we’ve created our characters, and created a character set for which we will use to launch our game, and hold the “map” of how we want the characters to interact with one another. We have also made it so that no matter what screen we are on, if we press “Home” the game will swap windows to tA, and if we press the “Page Up” key, the game will swap windows to tB. Note that if you are already on tB, and press the “Page Up” nothing happens… but if later you are already in game, and alter your ISBoxer file, save it, and export it… even tho the game may say “loaded tB successfully updated” or something like that, you will want to press your “Page Up” key again after that to ensure any changes made are applied at that very moment.
    ----> If we were to click the Character Set named “2 man Inquisitors” the game will launch one window, we enter our account info, load that game, and 5 seconds later launches the other window, we enter our account info. When both games are up, we can press “Home” for tA and the window swaps… and we can press “Page Up” for tB and the window swaps. That’s it thus far.


    So… Now we need to get the FTL modifiers set up so the toons will interact with one another. But before that, we need to address a few details first. We need three Key Maps (which is a set of keys that are unique for their own purpose).

    11. Right click on Key Maps and choose new key map. We need three of them, so go ahead and make all three, name them the following:

    First one = “2 man Inquisitor Control”
    Second one = “2 man Inquisitor tA”
    Third one = “2 man Inquisitor tB”

    (Note: the reason why we are descriptive with these, is because you will need to CLEARLY identify them, today, tomorrow, and many months from now or later. Its tough to try to remember what you did 8 months ago. Plus it makes other details later on, like “Whitelisting” and pointing the direction for Mapped Keys)

    Think of this process as making a book. We have a title (our characters names), we have a cover (our Character Set), we need pages and paper (Controls Key Maps), and the details words on the paper (our hotkeys and mapped keys). Right now we need some Controls.

    12. Click on “2 man Inquisitor Control” and right click on mapped keys. We need a minimum of (4) mapped keys. Go ahead and make them and name them the following:

    First one = “Activate tA”
    Second one = “Activate tB”
    Third one = “All keys OFF”
    Fourth one = “Mouse Repeater”

    13. Click on “Activate tA” and make a new hotkey key.

    14. Click on the “<” for the Hotkey, and set it to “Home”

    See where this is going??


    15. Now click on the “Steps” and make a new mapped key… in actions. We want to do a new key state action. For “Target”, use the pull down menu and choose “Window:All w/current”. For “Key Map”, use the pull down menu and choose “2 man Inquisitor tA”. And key state is “ON”

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    16. Now for ease of repetition, right click on this new action, and choose “copy”. Then right click on the word “Actions” and choose “paste”. Do this a second time, so that you end up with (3) things under the “Actions” name.

    17. Click on the second one, and change the field for “Key Map” to “2 man Inquisitor tB”.. and then set the key state to “OFF”

    18. Click on the third one, and change the field for “Key Map” to “2 man Inquisitor Control”.. and then set the key state to “ON”

    19. Now, add one more thing under “Actions” by right clicking, and this time choose, the “Popup Text”. Over on the right, you can write whatever you like, for example “Hey dummy, tA is now Active!”








    **EDIT NOTE** just like we did in step 4 and 5. Get the Character Set window for the bottom left panel open, and click and drag down the (3) Key sets you just made. “2 man Inquisitor Control”; “2 man Inquisitor tA”; “2 man Inquisitor tB”

    Save file.


    *Checkpoint*
    So what this does, is… when you press the hotkey “Home” (as indicated over on the lower left pane), assuming the game is open and running, the game will swap to tA, and you will see a popup text flash across the screen that says “Hey dummy, tA is now Active!”. Meanwhile, it also deactivated tB as the leader. What does this mean? From the perspective of tB… when you are playing tB, you are playing from his point of view. So when you say “Target Me” you send a command to the OTHER window which is the “`” key. But if he dies. OH NO!!! and you press the “Home” key to instantly swap over to tA, and press the “`” key… nothing will happen. He wont get confused, at target the dead tB, because right now time is life. We don’t want to stand around watching toons die. Pressing “Home” deactivates the key maps for the tB, and putting tA in control, as well as the instant window swap.

    In the future, when you get really tricky, you can write separate dps rotations for similar toons, or have the ability to use different class toons. Deactivating a healer, and activating a tank, is a critical function. And vice versa
    .


    Lets see how well this is sinking in… I want you to do step 20 on your own.

    20. Click on “Activate tB”, and set up this hotkey as “Page Up”. (hint: be sure to swap the “on”s and “off”s and change your pop up text to depict the proper toon… try coloring the text too if you want)

    21. Click on “All Keys OFF”. This hotkey can be anything you want. Id use a key combo to ensure no accidental use of this one. Something like ALT+End. Change all the key states to off, EXCEPT CONTROL!!! and change the popup text to help identify when “ALL KEYS ARE OFF”

    22. Click on “Mouse Repeater”. (Im gonna have to get back to you on this one. I cant recall the actual wording for this one. Needless to say, you want to do a 2 step process. Step one is Mouse Sync and send it to all. Step two, you can use the same button, and turn it off. I use Mouse4 button. Add a popup text to each of the two steps. Step one, make it say “Mouse Repeat ON” and the popup text for Step two, make it say “Mouse Repeat OFF”


    Save file… export to innerspace. Press the “Home” key.


    *Checkpoint*
    Ok, by this time, you should be able to do the following…
    Load up your team from nothing by opening ISBoxer, and right clicking on your Character Set, and selecting load. When fully loaded, you should be able to press the “Home” key, with windows swap to tA.. and a text flash across the screen indicating as such. Press the “Page Up” key, the window swaps, to tB and another text across the screen. You should also be able to press ALT+End and see a text flash, and none of your hotkeys work after that, except “Home” and “Page Up”. Lastly, you should be able to press your Mouse4 button once, see a flash on the screen something like “Mouse Repeat ON”, and wiggle the mouse, neat, and then press Mouse4 again, another text indicating its off.



    BTW, you making it this far. Good job!


    One more minor section to go, and you’re gonna be killin stuff in game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apps View Post


    So... lets get started with a new file.

    1. I want you to delete your Character Set for these toons. (Since I dont know their names, I'll call them toonA or tA and toonB or tB)

    2. If your toons are already loaded in the Character section, leave them be.

    3. Make a new Character set.
    To do this, simply right click and choose new. Name it something thats easily identifable.. like "2 man Inquisitors"
    Note that its fairly empty.
    We need to add some charcters to it.

    4. Click on your characters at the top to expand the fields and expose the names of tA and tB from the Characters section.

    5. Click on your newly created Character Sets name, so that you can see your Character Set build tree in the lower left.

    (With the bottom left pane open, mouse to the top, and scroll the top pane till you see your characters, click and drag their names down into the bottom left window (should be the character set screen), and watch ISBoxer auto-populate your two character slots... now tA is in character slot 1, and tB is in character slot 2.
    Okay I have done this up to this point.

    I'll do the rest of your amazing list when I get back from taking my parents to lunch in two and a half hours.

    THANKS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malgor View Post
    Good Morning!


    EDIT 2: I am so stupid!
    This is working correctly. I just assumed I wanted to select ` when I don't at all. I just select a mob with my main and hit my attack and with Force Leap they both just jump in. I don't need toon B to have a mob preselected. It's working perfectly!
    I went ahead and added in DPS keys 1-9 and = so that I could use my full range of abilities. They all work great.

    Thanks again! I'll keep you posed on my progress as I work my way through with these two sentinels!
    Yanno, I thought about that last night, but I think I was so tired at 2:00 am that I forgot to mention it. Very pleased that you figured it out on your own tho.
    Now the fun begins!

    Because you are using two melee toons. Why not have a super cool set of dps buttons and add in a "Follow Me" as STEP 2, and use the key to activate STEP 1 when you press the key, and STEP 2 when you release the key? What will happen is, as you spam the key, its attacking with the press, and reorienting with follow upon release of the same key. Awesome huh?


    Then you'll wanna start doing multiple key presses with a single DPS key, "round-robin" leaps and stuns, add in click bars for the "oh shit" moments... the list goes on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malgor View Post
    Okay am really going now.

    Was just barely level 12 30 minutes ago, now level 13 and 2 bubbles.

    Thanks again so much for being so patient helping me get these working!
    Hey, you're welcome. I havent played SWtor in quite a while. Actually the first time I restarted the game was to test out your setup...lol I had to do 2 decent size patches..lol I may start playing again.

    Ya, now that you are all set...

    PICS or it DIDNT HAPPEN!

    Quote Originally Posted by Riiker View Post
    I've never tried to. You might also just try to delete everything but that.

    Itll only take me a few minutes to get you a generic setup for two characters.

    I need to state, that Riiker was on the right path. Hes really deserves all the credit here. All I did was paraphrase my own write up from months ago..lol Kudos to Riiker.
    Last edited by Apps : 03-14-2012 at 01:40 PM Reason: Grammar

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    Felton01.jpg

    Everything is going well now. As you can see Felton and Welton (twin Jedi sentinels) have just hit 16.
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    Awesome! Im really glad to hear that it's working for you.

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