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  1. #101

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    I'll be definately multiboxing monks! I really loved my DKs after playing shamans day in day out. I tried other melee classes like druids and paladins but they weren't as much fun as i had with my DKs. I really hope monks will be the new class to play in the next expension.
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  2. #102

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    Tauren are Blizzard's version of Minotaurs which are a high fantasy trope and have been since it's inception. The Minotaur predates most other fantasy figures.

    Humanoid Pandas that are affable and like to get drunk and do Street Fighter 2 Ryu Whirlwind Kicks for their AE dps? Sorry, it's obvious panda-ering to Blizzard's new target demographic. For me, it *is* too much. It's childish. It's something a 10 year old appreciates. Most of the other in-jokes and such in the game wouldn't be and aren't as appreciated by kids that young because they don't grasp many of those references.
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  3. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosg2 View Post
    Tauren are Blizzard's version of Minotaurs which are a high fantasy trope and have been since it's inception. The Minotaur predates most other fantasy figures.

    Humanoid Pandas that are affable and like to get drunk and do Street Fighter 2 Ryu Whirlwind Kicks for their AE dps? Sorry, it's obvious panda-ering to Blizzard's new target demographic. For me, it *is* too much. It's childish. It's something a 10 year old appreciates. Most of the other in-jokes and such in the game wouldn't be and aren't as appreciated by kids that young because they don't grasp many of those references.
    Again, Blizzard came out with the Pandaren brewmaster in WC3 in 2002 and people have been wanting them to be playable since TBC (when they actually were going to be introduced rather than the Drainpipes) so I don't see how it's them just now pandering to some target demographic that weren't even around when they first created and introduced the race and class.

    To each their own, and if people don't like it then fine but don't try to pass it off as some new thinkg Blizz have only just created.

  4. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosg2 View Post
    Tauren are Blizzard's version of Minotaurs which are a high fantasy trope and have been since it's inception. The Minotaur predates most other fantasy figures.

    Humanoid Pandas that are affable and like to get drunk and do Street Fighter 2 Ryu Whirlwind Kicks for their AE dps? Sorry, it's obvious panda-ering to Blizzard's new target demographic. For me, it *is* too much. It's childish. It's something a 10 year old appreciates. Most of the other in-jokes and such in the game wouldn't be and aren't as appreciated by kids that young because they don't grasp many of those references.

    rofl

    ...and you're planning on playing star wars. A twelve year olds wet dream.

    No one will make me believe that panadas are more childish than star wars.

    Get a grip. Its a video game.

  5. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    rofl

    ...and you're planning on playing star wars. A twelve year olds wet dream.

    No one will make me believe that panadas are more childish than star wars.

    Get a grip. Its a video game.
    Maybe you never played KOTOR, I dunno. Sure there's some childish elements - Ewoks and all that Jar Jar BS. Really though that's main stream SW. KOTOR is definetly more adult oriented with betryayal, love, and murder.

    I dunno man I just feel Kung Fu Panda is too much for me. Hated the movies. I know... I know... Pandarens have been mentioned since way before Kung Fu Panda, but still. Not like I am totally against kid stuff- I do enjoy a good cartoon every once in a while obviously.

    WOW meant to me the ugly horde (the face of evil) vs the alliance (goody goody good guys). Sure Blood Elves broke the mold some but they weren't furry animals tied in with cuteness and an entire Asian culture. When I see a panda I think cuteness and fuzzy wuzzy. Just don't see how I cann break my mental image of what I think of pandas. Just WOW catering to the $$$ imho at the sacrifice of their main story.

    WOW lore is so deep. Surely you can admit they could have thought of something better. New hero classes, naga races, and other things that have been mentioned. Going back in time to the Emerald Dream/Nightmare was something I'd hoped for.

    Now I'm no Star Wars freakazoid but it does have a deep meaning to me. I remember being 7 years old and walking into a movie theater with no idea what was showing (Original SW 1976). Then my eyes transfixed on a 2 hour journey into space with great villains (Darth Vader) and great heroes. Sure the SW title has ben bastardized for years with the last 3 movies sucking shit.

    Bioware aren't really furry lovers or into Ewoks. That's why the entire KOTOR story takes place thousands of years before Darth Vader etc... Not really anything childish I can think of in KOTOR. SW sure but not KOTOR.

    Will SWTOR fail- who knows. But it hasn't failed yet and has millions of fans. Neither Blizz nor Bioware pay me- so why should I give a rats ass

    Not to mention the Pokemon game Blizzard is throwing into MoP. Just seems to be catering to a younger and youger audience.
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  6. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    rofl

    ...and you're planning on playing star wars. A twelve year olds wet dream.

    No one will make me believe that panadas are more childish than star wars.

    Get a grip. Its a video game.

    I go to agree with Mosg.

    Im sure everyone has their own opinion as reality is a personal perception based upon expierences.
    Heres my opinion...

    The pandas are stupid. I knew Blizzard was loosing it when they introduced squid humanoids from space. Fanboi or not, its stupid. My 11 yr old thinks its cool, and started reciting Kunfu-Panda movie... nuff said.

    Reading through all the posts in this thread, of recent.. seems to have a general theme. Nah. I was ok with the funny of the cows, the squid annoyed me to no end.. goblins were really dumb, pandas... lol. At some point I gotta draw a line. Whats next? the giant avatar version of Braun from WCIII DOTA? mermaids? got em. Zombies? got em. space aliens? got em. warewolf from Twilight movies? got em. ... uh.. uh... uh... dragons!? got em.... uhhhhhhhhhhh (grabing at straws......) cartoon talking animals? ...BAM! got em.... oh I know! The Peanut-butter Jelly time dancing banana!!! WIN!

    Ive said this many times, so Im not going to soap box again. Frankly im tired of that too. Blizz rolls out a new exp or large patch every time a new MMO comes out to counter sales, and attempt to keep subscribers. They're slowly loosing subs. Check the trends. The game is done. Its just a pathetic ploy. Old lore, too many carrots on a stick.
    Im done too.

    And yes, Im going to go play another MMO. why? because I want to. WoW was done when the Arthas died.

    Now its just one big fat tauren, and theyre milkin it.

    That being said. Ive vowed to liquidate evey toon, and give my gold to the first random dude I see, and delete every toon. Never going back. Am I quitting because Im citing its childish? heh, heavens no, ALL video games are a bit childish. I just dont like it anymore. Its stupid.
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  7. #107

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    This is supposed to be about the MoP expansion, not a debate about Star Wars vs. WoW.

    And I'd rather not see this turn into 40 pages of Pro/con-Panda, there's a lot of other things to discuss about the expansion and it doesn't need to get lost in bickering.
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  8. #108

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    I'm not sure why everyone seems to be comparing Pandarens to Kung Fu Panda. It very much depends on how they pull off the character, Warcraft 3 pandas were bad ass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028qkDLiyp4) while the former tend to be in the comedy relief category.

    Most of us play without sound anyway so I guess which ever way the character is voiced you hear what you want to hear within your head and what you want to imagine.

  9. #109

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    I'll almost certainly try the expansion, it looks like it will cater to someone like me. These days I fit my WOW time into a pretty random and unpredictable schedule, so it's almost always solo play, whether one character or five. Being able to continue to gear them up with normal non-instanced content is a nice addition. Some of the other stuff looks interesting too, like the instanced PVE scenarios that can accomodate as few as three players.

    I'll also try the new SW-related MMORPG because my friends (who have all pretty much stopped playing WOW) are going to play it and MMORPGs have always been much more fun for me when I'm playing with them. Whether we stay with it depends on how good or bad it is. I hope it's good because there are far too few good games out there. It won't be a WOW-killer, and it doesn't need to be. It just has to be fun.

    I tend to go with the flow in terms of WOW. I guess I'm not turned off by the kung fu pandas because I wasn't turned off by gnomes or tauren or all of the crazy stuff you find in WOW. I mean, the pandas definitely evoke the movie for me, and it does seem like a way to market to kids and people who want something "cute." But errrr... GNOMES. Did anyone ever look at the gnomes and think "yeah, now there's an attempt at some serious adult-themed content"? They're fucking chibis, for pete's sake.

    Every now and then I get tired of WOW and stop playing for a while, anywhere from a few weeks to as long as six or seven months once. I know that at some point I'll stop playing and not come back, but I learned to stop trying to predict my "retirements" after my first one in EQ (was back in like two months). When it happens, it will happen.
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  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkerer View Post
    I'm not sure why everyone seems to be comparing Pandarens to Kung Fu Panda. It very much depends on how they pull off the character, Warcraft 3 pandas were bad ass (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028qkDLiyp4) while the former tend to be in the comedy relief category.

    Most of us play without sound anyway so I guess which ever way the character is voiced you hear what you want to hear within your head and what you want to imagine.
    I think youre right, theyre nothing alike.
















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