Anybody tried an all-cleric team?

[crowdx]

With this setup, is the healing all coming from passive buffs?
I tried a secondary healer last night with 3 clerics, a mage and a warrior tank. It went ok but I needed to have the mage spec into chloro to spam a heal in their dps rotation on the tank.

[Smedbox]

I have a 50 warrior and 48 cleric that I would be using to level 3 brand new clerics so dungeon boosting would be the most attractive option if it works out - I'll give it a try soon and see how it works out.

Anyone know if the exp received by the low-lvl alts goes way down in a dungeon group with 50's present? I'll try and test this as well but I'm curious if anyone knows this for sure already.

I tried Kings Breach last night, with three level 36 and two level 50. All three had full rest XP but used no potions. They got about 60-70% of a level, clearing the dungeon and completing the three quests in there. I'll do it again tonight without any of the quests and clearing it as fast as I can to see what XP/hour I can get...

[Ughmahedhurtz]

With this setup, is the healing all coming from passive buffs?
I tried a secondary healer last night with 3 clerics, a mage and a warrior tank. It went ok but I needed to have the mage spec into chloro to spam a heal in their dps rotation on the tank.

If you overgear the content, yes you can use all passive. My team needs a dedicated healer (who does nothing but spam heals on the tank) to succeed. This is all clerics, of course. With bards, probably not. No idea about mixed chloro/xxxx mages.

[Apatheist]

With this setup, is the healing all coming from passive buffs?
I tried a secondary healer last night with 3 clerics, a mage and a warrior tank. It went ok but I needed to have the mage spec into chloro to spam a heal in their dps rotation on the tank.

Group healing, yes. Your tank still needs an active healer to keep him up. Especially on trash, which seems to be harder than most of the bosses (though that may just be because I face pull everything and don't bother CCing at all). You will rarely need to group heal with 4x reparation spams going off. Especially if you use heal/shield proc greater planar essences, such as http://rift.zam.com/en/item/8AC7C185...1/Crystal-Vine or the one from Iron Pine Peaks (both of which are pretty easy to get).

If you overgear the content, yes you can use all passive. My team needs a dedicated healer (who does nothing but spam heals on the tank) to succeed. This is all clerics, of course. With bards, probably not. No idea about mixed chloro/xxxx mages.

Higher tier content is not possible with 5 Chloros. The amount of healing you do doesn't matter when you're getting one-shot. Even in Tier1, if I take off my toughness gear (T1 requires 45 toughness to queue), my tank gets absolutely trucked from all the crits. Definitely not healable.

[crowdx]

[QUOTE=Apatheist;345993]Group healing, yes. Your tank still needs an active healer to keep him up. Especially on trash, which seems to be harder than most of the bosses (though that may just be because I face pull everything and don't bother CCing at all). You will rarely need to group heal with 4x reparation spams going off. Especially if you use heal/shield proc greater planar essences, such as http://rift.zam.com/en/item/8AC7C185...1/Crystal-Vine or the one from Iron Pine Peaks (both of which are pretty easy to get).

I am still only in the early 30s with my first team and they are pretty much geared with crafted chain gear on the clerics and crafted plate on the tank (some blues)

[Smedbox]

I looked up some of those neat healing planar essences:


Level 22 (305 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/91ABE7BD...king-Faesource
Level 32 (415 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/EBAD9DC4...ging-Faesource
Level 35 (550 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/F3F4DCFB...g-Rain-Crystal
Level 42 (550 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/99C3CD84...ming-Faesource
Level 45 (750 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/8AC7C185...1/Crystal-Vine
Level 50 (730 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/96AAF2A7...ping-Faesource

[wyofiddler]

Anyone have thoughts for or against running 4 clerics with a warrior tank for pve? I'm wondering if you lose to much synergy on heals for the extra tools a warrior tank gives you. At least _I_ feel like there's extra tools, I have a 50 warrior and not a 50 cleric tank yet, so I'm still biased/simply don't know how big a deal it is for expert-level content.

[Smedbox]

Anyone have thoughts for or against running 4 clerics with a warrior tank for pve? I'm wondering if you lose to much synergy on heals for the extra tools a warrior tank gives you. At least _I_ feel like there's extra tools, I have a 50 warrior and not a 50 cleric tank yet, so I'm still biased/simply don't know how big a deal it is for expert-level content.

I think a Reaver tank, three Tyranny clerics and a Sentinel (or Warden) healer cleric sounds like great AoE fun.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Anyone have thoughts for or against running 4 clerics with a warrior tank for pve? I'm wondering if you lose to much synergy on heals for the extra tools a warrior tank gives you. At least _I_ feel like there's extra tools, I have a 50 warrior and not a 50 cleric tank yet, so I'm still biased/simply don't know how big a deal it is for expert-level content.

I don't see anything in my Justicar tank's toolbox that would be a huge loss if I traded for a Warrior. I did mine as a cleric because I can run rifts and raids as 5x AoE DPS and blow the hell out of things.

[Apatheist]

I looked up some of those neat healing planar essences:


Level 22 (305 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/91ABE7BD...king-Faesource
Level 32 (415 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/EBAD9DC4...ging-Faesource
Level 35 (550 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/F3F4DCFB...g-Rain-Crystal
Level 42 (550 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/99C3CD84...ming-Faesource
Level 45 (750 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/8AC7C185...1/Crystal-Vine
Level 50 (730 health over 8 sec): http://rift.zam.com/en/item/96AAF2A7...ping-Faesource

Also worth noting that greater essences stack. Meaning that any essence will stack with another essence, as long as it's not unique equip or listed under the same suffix. So, Faesource will stack with most of the greaters from the Rare Planar vendor in each zone (such as the level 45 Crystal Vine from Stillmoor I mentioned). Vine ticks for 150 and the level 42 Faesource (I'm too poor to buy 5 of the higher level one) ticks for 110.

On a boss fight you can rely on having 2-3 stacks on every character constantly, spiking up to 6-7 stacks if you get lucky. It's almost as good as having a 6th Cleric doing nothing but spamming DoL full time.

Anyone have thoughts for or against running 4 clerics with a warrior tank for pve? I'm wondering if you lose to much synergy on heals for the extra tools a warrior tank gives you. At least _I_ feel like there's extra tools, I have a 50 warrior and not a 50 cleric tank yet, so I'm still biased/simply don't know how big a deal it is for expert-level content.

I would prefer a Warlord/X tank if my only concern was 5man PvE, to be honest. They have better threat and provide some really nice buffs to the party. The reason I went 5 Clerics is that Warriors have no real ranged spec. It's important to remember you won't always be tanking on your primary. I regularly switch my healer and tank to DPS for doing rift raids and zone events. Having one melee toon with 4 ranged will be awkward.

In PvP, the Warrior would pretty much be a wasted slot.

If you're worried about performance, pretty much all the tanks perform the same. Some are stronger at AoE threat, some have more mobility in the form of charges, etc. Some have more ranged attacks. Regardless of all that, any tank is capable of tanking any content. It's more about your gear than your class.