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    Quote Originally Posted by wyofiddler View Post
    For you guys running this 5x Cleric team, do you put DoL on a mouseoverui click healing setup like Alge described or just use a keybind? Or even 5 character specific keybinds for which toon will receive the heals?
    IMHO, all AoE heals goes to a key press. It's not targeted on a specific character so there's no need for mouseover. I currently have it on F10.

    For mouse over single-target heals I still use keys. I mouse over a raid frame and hit one of my "raid heal" keys (happens to be shift-1 through shift-5 in my case) and it will cast the corresponding heal spell on that character, no matter which character I happen to have as main at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smedbox View Post
    IMHO, all AoE heals goes to a key press. It's not targeted on a specific character so there's no need for mouseover. I currently have it on F10.
    ^^^ This.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smedbox View Post
    For mouse over single-target heals I still use keys. I mouse over a raid frame and hit one of my "raid heal" keys (happens to be shift-1 through shift-5 in my case) and it will cast the corresponding heal spell on that character, no matter which character I happen to have as main at the moment.
    I don't do this. I have my healer's main heal multi-step keymap/macros set to go off when I'm spamming my attack keys for the rest of the group, so my tank is constantly healed by default.

    Then I have basically set up ISBoxer's keymaps + repeater region so that I have the same functionality as the HealBot addon in Rift for click healing other slaves that need it. Works damned well for the most part, though I admit to not needing it most of the time due to having so much passive group healing. If I can remember, I'll post my King's Breach video tonight and you'll see my click healing keymap notifications going off. ISBoxer is very slick with the repeater region thing.
    Last edited by Ughmahedhurtz : 09-29-2011 at 03:28 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    I don't do this. I have my healer's main heal multi-step keymap/macros set to go off when I'm spamming my attack keys for the rest of the group, so my tank is constantly healed by default.

    Then I have basically set up ISBoxer's keymaps + repeater region so that I have the same functionality as the HealBot addon in Rift for click healing other slaves that need it. Works damned well for the most part, though I admit to not needing it most of the time due to having so much passive group healing. If I can remember, I'll post my King's Breach video tonight and you'll see my click healing keymap notifications going off. ISBoxer is very slick with the repeater region thing.
    I use the mouse-over Shift-1 to Shift-5 for occasional off-healing. (Healing people who isn't the main character.) For healing my main, I use numpad 1-5, which casts the same spells as Shift-1 to Shift-5 but on the main character. I like pressing buttons on the keyboard rather than mouse-clicking anything...

    I don't do a lot of dungeons (yet), but I've done a few where I had set up stepping keymaps for spamming heals on the tank automatically. They're a pain to set up and needs constant tweaking and modifications as you level up and get new abilities or respec. And I feel like I have no control over what's happening...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smedbox View Post
    I don't do a lot of dungeons (yet), but I've done a few where I had set up stepping keymaps for spamming heals on the tank automatically. They're a pain to set up and needs constant tweaking and modifications as you level up and get new abilities or respec. And I feel like I have no control over what's happening...
    Sure, there are caveats to it, like having to interrupt things on occasion to get it to cast. For most cases I've encountered, there are very rarely events that need me to actively heal someone aside from the tank. And even in those rare events, I can usually just ignore it and let the alt die and it won't affect the outcome in the slightest.

    I'm sure things will get a lot different in expert dungeons. We'll see how things need to go when that time arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smedbox View Post
    I use the mouse-over Shift-1 to Shift-5 for occasional off-healing. (Healing people who isn't the main character.) For healing my main, I use numpad 1-5, which casts the same spells as Shift-1 to Shift-5 but on the main character. I like pressing buttons on the keyboard rather than mouse-clicking anything...

    I don't do a lot of dungeons (yet), but I've done a few where I had set up stepping keymaps for spamming heals on the tank automatically. They're a pain to set up and needs constant tweaking and modifications as you level up and get new abilities or respec. And I feel like I have no control over what's happening...
    Not really. I run Ward/Sent because it's more mobile and has slightly better HPS, but it's also a much more difficult rotation to set up. You could easily keep a tank alive with nothing but healing grace spam and use DoL +reparation for group heals and it would be require almost no micromanagement other than hitting your DoL hotkey whenever the group takes damage.

    Set your tank to focus and put these two macros on your Sentinel's heal key -


    Hotkey 1 (use the same hotkey as your DPS spam, or include this in a keymap) -

    #show Healing Breath
    cast @focus Healing Breath
    cast @focus Healing Grace

    Tank cooldown on a separate button -

    #show Healer's Covenant
    cast @focus Healer's Covenant

    You may need to complicate things once you get into Expert modes, but these two macros plus the passive heals and occasional DoL from the rest of your group is easily enough to manage every instance from 1-50, including the two level 50 instances, (assuming your toons are geared enough for the instance in the first place).

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    Thanks to all of you and your damned thread I started a new all cleric team.

    Well, it's actually 4 new clerics that will be lead by level 50 but still ...
    Schadenfreude Rogue ( MM/Ranger ) / Dekoy Rogue ( MM/Ranger ) / Medyc Cleric ( Sentinel/Warden ) / Rhiggs Warrior ( Champion/Warlord ) / Murtaugh Mage ( Chloro )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krago View Post
    Thanks to all of you and your damned thread I started a new all cleric team.

    Well, it's actually 4 new clerics that will be lead by level 50 but still ...
    This.

    Can anyone clarify boosting in Rift? I would love to pair 4 new (low level) clerics with my 50 tank for leveling, does that work? I guess I'd have to run to each instance, no LFG ports would kinda suck. But does it work other than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyofiddler View Post
    This.

    Can anyone clarify boosting in Rift? I would love to pair 4 new (low level) clerics with my 50 tank for leveling, does that work? I guess I'd have to run to each instance, no LFG ports would kinda suck. But does it work other than that?
    If you have a full team you don't have to run to any dungeon. You just put your whole team into the LFG tool and instantly teleport into the dungeon. Your team can teleport into a low-level dungeon even if some characters are level 50.

    To level new characters quickly using a 50 or two, I just rush through all the quests at insane speeds since the 50s kill everything instantly. It's much quicker to level using quests than to grind dungeons, imho.
    Team 1: 7x60p80 Clerics + 3x60p60 Mages (Legio IX)
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    PS,

    Here's something I've been toying with. This is my new PvP build I call my, "Inquisitank"! Focusing on mobility and survivability.

    4 clerics specced as - http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10...Vgobxx0V.yox0o
    1 cleric specced as - http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10...x.Vgobxx0V.VVb

    Here are the major things you'll lose compared to a standard PvE Inquisitor build:

    - No fanaticism (though you could swap a point from corporal punishment if you think it's worth it, I don't)
    - Roughly 20% less damage from vex and sanction heretic.
    - No DPS armor buff (not an issue, as I'd use the endurance/armor buff in PvP, anyway)..
    - Less passive buffs to DPS, as your secondary and tertiary souls are focused mostly on survivability

    Here's what you gain.

    - No fewer than 5 ranged, instant cast life nukes (to build convictions) on relatively short cooldowns as well as your depravity proc. Really nice mobile single target damage.
    - Shards of light is an awesome filler for when your depravity hasn't procced
    - A significant amount block, via spellpower, plus an extra 15% from precept, when you're in melee range
    - The option to toggle any of your clerics that get focused into Mein of Leadership (huge armor/hp buff)

    And here's what makes the build. Absolutely huge damage mitigation. 15% passive from shield of faith plus 11% from protect the flock and reinforce (both of which proc from reparation and DoL, which means they should have 100% uptime since all your nukes are instant). PvP gear caps at 30% player reduction. So, with gear, you will have a combined total of 46% reduced damage from all sources before any armor or resists. Plus a decent block rating vs rogues/warriors, plus bonus armor/endurance from Justicar and the Inquisitor buff.


    It's a very simple spec to run, which makes it even better for PvP. You can run the whole thing with 4 hotkeys (plus your standard follow, assist and utility stuff, obviously)

    Key 1 -

    Create a keymap for your "Spam" key. Step one calling excommunication on "pressed or released" and a 6 second round-robin Step two calling the following macro.

    #show Sanction Heretic
    cast Precept of Refuge
    cast Sovereignty
    cast Sanction Heretic
    cast Life's Vengeance
    cast Bolt of Radiance
    cast Shards of Light

    Key 2 - Bolt of Depravity

    key 3 - Vex

    Key 4 - Doctrine of Loyalty

    Enjoy!
    Last edited by Apatheist : 09-30-2011 at 10:01 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    ^^^ This.


    I don't do this. I have my healer's main heal multi-step keymap/macros set to go off when I'm spamming my attack keys for the rest of the group, so my tank is constantly healed by default.

    Then I have basically set up ISBoxer's keymaps + repeater region so that I have the same functionality as the HealBot addon in Rift for click healing other slaves that need it. Works damned well for the most part, though I admit to not needing it most of the time due to having so much passive group healing. If I can remember, I'll post my King's Breach video tonight and you'll see my click healing keymap notifications going off. ISBoxer is very slick with the repeater region thing.

    I do not see where you have your repeater region set up on the screen? do you have it over your top bar? Also, how do you like the fun/play style of these clerics compared to when you were leveling your rogs?
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