Dude you're like a Tea Partier defending their vision of the constitution, rather than what the constitution actually says -- or without having read it at all.attacking the messager does not prove your point, sorry. BTW i do love tea IRL, but do not attend tea partier parties, so I can't say if your description of me is accurate or not. I read the onion when I want a ridicious laugh, not when I want to quote foreign policy especially since they are an entertainment magazine and not a journalist source. But wait a second, didn't you just try to compare a person with imagined facts to a person who is imaginary? I think the Onion's joke is actually on you, especially since Mr Mortensen is not even imagined to be a tea-partier in the article. You do know that the articles in the news articles in there are made up right?..... SO SAYETH THE TOU:
TWO KEYS INSTEAD OF ONE,
YOUR ACCOUNT IS DONE!
None of my comments are based in a self created ideas but rather follow a clear logical train from blue posts that I have quoted and linked for your own verification, How that would related to somone who doesn't read what he quotes fails comparison naturaly accepted by most people. Thus, you are clearly makeing a personal attact instead of argueing your point.
My point on entering into the conversation on this is not to say, "HOW DARE YOU" but rather honesty to ourselves and the community when people ask about the legimicy of a feature, software, etc. I can not help you if you are cut by the truth. You have a decision on how you play the game and if you want to stick to the cores of what is stated allowed vs. what is more convient. As stated in my other post, there is a slim likehood of notice being taken on this, but it is still nether the less, a risk that is introduced and we need to not lie to ourselves, and then the community about it.
While we can't officially endorse it from our end, this seems like a pretty cool feature to us." Litmus test: passed.its nice to see the extension of the topic from binding IWT to a keyup event being legitimate or not, to all of the other issues you have experienced in your development of ISBoxer, however, it confuses the point and brings in items not inheriantly relevant to the arguement. Also, the addition of those topics does not shed light on how IWT activation on a Keyup event is a legitimate under TOU. It however seems more like a cry out that "look at all of these other things that may have been bad before that are ok now. by ok, i mean no one I know of has gotten banned by it, and by now, I mean so far..." My arguement attempts to establish the precidance for why IWT on a keyup event is not permissable.
Recently I implemented Video Feeds in ISBoxer (where you can see part of window B from inside window A), and as of the last week or so, these feeds now have the option of being fully interactive -- including the mouse. Video Feeds can be scaled however you want, and placed anywhere. So technically, not only are mouse moves being simulated to the video feed source's window (window B), pre-determined location information is used to place the cursor in the right area in that window. Litmus tests: failed failed failed.
the litmus test I described is the replication of a software ability to have its actions recreated ingame using ingame macros/ mechanics. you incorrectly applied the litmus test to things that the exact description wouldn't allow at least three times in your post. I don't know if you just hate litmus tests cause you can taste the bitter flavor, but lets at least use the test for what it was intended for instead of trying to call it the Unified goverance test for all rules of wow.
I do see your point on the vagueness of the GM's comments when taken at face value, but when taken in context as to what was being disussed, his statement isn't over-reaching when applied to the topic. There is a resaon why the context of what was being discussed and the program being mentioned is so very important. In this case, I believe that he was reffering to a program that clicks on a xy cord not through mouse broadcasting or cursor broadcasting, but rather through just a keypress, and not a mousepress. That was what made it bad, since you couldn't bind a key to a predetermined mouse click action ingame. Nice try of a red herring though.
if you want to define a seperate litmus test of "some customer server tech approves of what I am doing", then by all means, go ahead. I hear it worked out for Athene pretty well when the chips were down. I believe that you were pointing toward this but I am uncertain how it furthers the arument since GM != Forum Customer Service Rep. I have quoted blue posts and built my arguements around the logic introduced by those posts. These are the same posts that have also been used to defend the legimacy of multiboxing in the wow community. Strange strat to toss dirt on the very core posts that establish the legimicy of multiboxers to argue a software features legimacy in multiboxing. lolz
If you think there are less than HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people who have macros either through multiboxing software or other input device hardware/software, who make a single button that presses TWO buttons instead of just ONE, your head is in the sand.
as stated on wow forums, programmable keyboards that spam keys for a user are not permitted by the TOU and is a bannable offense. remember the n52 bans? the horrible number of people that got their honnor reset plus 72 hour account suspensions over the use of poor automation? the people who kept on doing it after their 72 hour bans, got permibanned. Your GM Malkorix is pretty clear that one key means one key in his quotes listed on the dual-boxing wiki, even if it is just one other key.
Our RL counterexample is speeding tickets. IE, take a stretch of road that is usually unpatrolled and just begs to be sped on becuase of light timing, convience, etc. Now lets put a cop there one morning and have tickets issued to offenders. Your defense of "you are putting your head in the sand if you think (that 10 thousand other people don't speed on this roadway everyday)" will get you the same fine as if you pled guilty.
browsing the dual-boxing wiki under GM conversations, having one key do multiple key presses on events that can not be repeasted ingame pops all over the citations. So why do you use examples that follow "everyone is doing it," "as long as blizzard gets its money and the majority of customers are happy, I can do what I want," "GM's comments can be wildely constured," and my favorite "ZOMG look at the guy waving his arms and jumping IRL fail at getting his ingame character to do anything other than stand there and die from lvl1 critter attacks..... I WANT ONE" as an attempt to legitimise it?
bahh, probably going to be called a nazi and mass murder in the next posts, oh wellzs
Originally Posted by coglistings
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