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    It's a matter of convenience, I don't want to wait 2.5 min after every login especially because I have multiple teams that have separate ISboxer settings and require restarting wows. Now I wouldn't compare a multiboxer to an avarage wow user, some of us are very adept with computers and have sufficient security built up to avoid the common hacks and exploits. If someone is out to get you and has breached your network then even your authenticator won't save you since that can be bypassed too.

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    I would like to add that if your authenticator gets bypassed then it is far more difficult to prove that you have been hacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkerer View Post
    It's a matter of convenience, I don't want to wait 2.5 min after every login especially because I have multiple teams that have separate ISboxer settings and require restarting wows. Now I wouldn't compare a multiboxer to an avarage wow user, some of us are very adept with computers and have sufficient security built up to avoid the common hacks and exploits. If someone is out to get you and has breached your network then even your authenticator won't save you since that can be bypassed too.
    Unless you're a very special case... logging out to the character selection screen and choosing another character set is how
    you swap sets without having to completely shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkerer View Post
    It's a matter of convenience, I don't want to wait 2.5 min after every login especially because I have multiple teams that have separate ISboxer settings and require restarting wows. Now I wouldn't compare a multiboxer to an avarage wow user, some of us are very adept with computers and have sufficient security built up to avoid the common hacks and exploits. If someone is out to get you and has breached your network then even your authenticator won't save you since that can be bypassed too.
    Can you tell us how many times in the past 2 years you have needed to have all 5 WOWs on one BNet account? Pets are WOW account bound, same with mounts. What have you gained by having all WOWs on one BNet?

    I use 5 BNets and LOVE being able to sign in all simultaneously with one code. I wouldn't go to 1 BNet until they allow it work the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkerer View Post
    I would like to add that if your authenticator gets bypassed then it is far more difficult to prove that you have been hacked.
    You sign in on IP address 65.64.X.X for 4 years and then you sign in on 155.121.X.X once and sell everything you own. Hmmmmm. Wonder what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khatovar View Post
    Up to 30 seconds between logging in accounts is nothing, especially if you have multiple toons on each account that you do things with. While I'm "waiting" for login codes, I'm also getting my alchemy transmutes done on the accounts as they log in. Or pillaging my mailbox for sold auctions. Or reading a post here. Or checking the news. And it's certainly less time than I would sit around waiting for accounts to be restored.
    Very much this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronDF View Post
    You sign in on IP address 65.64.X.X for 4 years and then you sign in on 155.121.X.X once and sell everything you own. Hmmmmm. Wonder what happened.
    Authenticator bypass viruses use your IP as a proxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronDF View Post
    Can you tell us how many times in the past 2 years you have needed to have all 5 WOWs on one BNet account? Pets are WOW account bound, same with mounts. What have you gained by having all WOWs on one BNet?

    I use 5 BNets and LOVE being able to sign in all simultaneously with one code. I wouldn't go to 1 BNet until they allow it work the same way.
    Real ID whispers from friends when not using all 5 accounts, doing 5s with another healer (my healer is on the "main" account), rated bgs with 4dks and othe situational uses such camping recepies.

    Now don't get me wrong everyone, authenticator is great for negating basic attacks but if you are able to push those off the table through network security then the authenticator just becomes a nuisance.

    Edit: Now that more and more people are using the authenticator, the appropriate anti authenticator malware is also becoming more and more common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronDF View Post
    Can you tell us how many times in the past 2 years you have needed to have all 5 WOWs on one BNet account? Pets are WOW account bound, same with mounts. What have you gained by having all WOWs on one BNet?

    I use 5 BNets and LOVE being able to sign in all simultaneously with one code. I wouldn't go to 1 BNet until they allow it work the same way.
    This route isn't possible anymore. You can no longer attach a single authenticator to multiple accounts. Only people who are
    old school and had it this way prior to the change get to keep it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkerer View Post
    Authenticator bypass viruses use your IP as a proxy. Now don't get me wrong everyone, authenticator is great for negating basic attacks but if you are able to push those off the table through network security then the authenticator just becomes a nuisance.

    Edit: Now that more and more people are using the authenticator, the appropriate anti authenticator malware is also becoming more and more common.
    People throw this excuse out there like it's a common problem and an argument on why authenticators are no good. Getting
    hacked with an authenticator is still a rare occurrence today. Blizzard never stated that attaching an authenticator to your
    account is a 100% deterrent and anyone who thinks their computer is impenetrable needs to be taught otherwise.

    I am wondering if the statement in bold can be backed up with any hard evidence? I frequent the official WoW forums a lot
    and the majority of the "I''VE BEEN HACKED!!!!" threads are started by someone like this who:
    • Cannot find the location of a program via an internet search engine
    • Still cannot find the location of a program after numerous people have posted links to it in his thread
    • Has no authenticator
    • Fits the typical WoW General Population, and Blood Elf, stereotypes

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    If your accounts were already on five different B.Net accounts.
    And you had a single authenticator attached to all five.
    There's no reason to change, at least from a security point of view, until the keyfob battery starts to die.
    Sure there are B.Net heirlooms coming, which can be traded across accounts soon... which might be worthwhile.

    Current authenticators can only attach to a single account.
    So having five B.Net's is no longer an advantage.
    You would either need five B.Net accounts and five authenticators, and to track which device goes with which account...
    And still have to enter five keys.

    Or you could have one authenticator, attached to one B.Net, with all your accounts on that one B.Net.
    When you push the authenticator, it generates a code which is good at 13 minutes after pushed, but has expired by 14 minutes after pushed.
    Codes have to be entered in the correct order they were generated.
    So you could push and receive a code as you're booting up.
    And likely have all five codes ready to go, before it is time to enter them.
    Then enter A, press enter; PiP switch to B and enter it, press enter; etc... and log all five in, fairly quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    When you push the authenticator, it generates a code which is good at 13 minutes after pushed, but has expired by 14 minutes after pushed.
    Another ninja nerf that Blizzard did... unfortunately, codes are now only valid for about 30 seconds.

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