That site has been around for 2+ years. I visited that site a year ago and most posts were sad, one guy left a suicide note on that site. They had suicide help lines posted for a while.Originally Posted by Ualaa
That site has been around for 2+ years. I visited that site a year ago and most posts were sad, one guy left a suicide note on that site. They had suicide help lines posted for a while.
Last edited by Fat Tire : 02-14-2011 at 10:06 PM
Jesus. I was about to start cracking the jokes until I read that. Poor guy.
Long term solution to a short term problem.
BC Arena was a game of Chess, the goal being to outthink and checkmate your opponent.
WotLK was also a game of Chess, the goal now being to take a turd on the chess board before your opponent could move.
DAMET! Now i'm partaking in the hijacking of my thread!
Oh well, doesn't look like Bliz has any plan to fix the heap of junk.
BC Arena was a game of Chess, the goal being to outthink and checkmate your opponent.
WotLK was also a game of Chess, the goal now being to take a turd on the chess board before your opponent could move.
I watched the video from the wowdetox site and read a few pages of posts. I came away a bit confused. The site seems to assume playing WoW means you are socially inept, have a really difficult life, are a jerk when you play, and have a hard time dealing with real-life situations.
To me, finding fun and fulfillment in your leisure time is something to be proud of, not something to be ashamed of. So many others have difficulty with leisure time and spend it watching TV, drinking too much, messing up their relationships with girlfriends in revloving door relationships, sitting around being bored or depressed, posting hate on political forums, or avoiding leisure time entirely by being a workaholic.
I understand WoW can be unhealthy if taken too far, but as long as you are having success at work, in your marriage, in your health, and in serving others, I think having fun with WoW is just another success.
I see many people who are dissatisfied with things, but I look up to those who can find pleasure in things as they are (even with all their imperfections).
The wowdetox site seemed to be filled with people who failed at finding fun in WoW. Unlike the posts made by members here, the wowdetox posters seemed to be taking it particularly hard. Based on the video and their posts, I think that this failure was indicative of their inability to find any joy with life in general. Looking at that site just makes you sad.
10-boxing Alliance Sargeras and Kil'jaeden
This pretty much sums up my attitude towards WoW too - I have no problem telling people what I do with my leisure time, because it's exactly that, MY time.
Playing WoW has not turned me into a basement dwelling social leper, nor has it had a detrimental effect on my job - actually it's a talking point with some colleagues and customers. Even my boss (who is not a gamer) knows I play and will occasionally call me "Leeroy" or "Jenkins" in some good natured ribbing.
I definitely understand how the game can lose it's shine for some - I took a break myself in the lead up to Cata, and have only recently jumped back in, and I'm now enjoying leveling another set of toons through the revamped content. But like many others have said, if you aren't enjoying it, then you should stop playing or take a break. After all, your toons will still be there if you ever decide to come back...
Cheers,
S.
The Zerg (Magtheridon - US)
Fact of Life: After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says W T F.
We are a special bread. That’s not an arrogant statement, as I’m not saying we are a better bread, just that we are different.
The trap is there, and it’s an easy one to fall into if your life is tough. If you are in a high pressure guild then the trap is the overwhelming need to get gear. Sooner or later you start sacrificing small things like hanging out with your friends on this one day to play wow. Those small things build up.
Before you know it, you are my old guildy, who has been playing non-stop every day of his life for the last 4 years. He has nothing else to do… He doesn’t even remember what else there is to do. He suffers extreme headaches from sitting in front of a screen all day, and his social life is his contact with his guild members. I can only imagine that his physical health is poor. Physical health is important for mental health. You could forget how to live, and depression could become a serious problem.
The members on this forum are unique in a few ways, the main one being our empty care-o-meter when it comes to other player’s opinions of us. No pressure. The second; most of us started boxing because we were bored with Solo. You don’t get bored of solo if you have fallen into the above trap.
And lastly, from everything I have learned from you guys, we have very diverse lives for WoW players. I’m a WoW player who takes a 600cc Death machine at 120MPH down a race track every other weekend. I could be way off, but that’s not the first image that comes to mind when I think of a stereotypical WoW player
I feel for anyone who fell into the trap that is WoW. I can see how it could lead to suicide.
/cast [target=thread] Derail
BC Arena was a game of Chess, the goal being to outthink and checkmate your opponent.
WotLK was also a game of Chess, the goal now being to take a turd on the chess board before your opponent could move.
Yep. If the site helps some people overcome a habit that is hard to drop, good for them. But I read those short testimonials and I can't help thinking that the problem that many of them have has nothing to do with WOW. WOW isn't the cause, it's a symptom. Most of them will either return to WOW or find another pastime that will take up countless hours with no return on time invested. And from that point of view, I'm not sure that a site that allows them to wallow in "group self pity" is a good idea, and might be worse for some of them.
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Good comment, I'm with you on this one. At the height of my playing days in 2009 I was also
a) playing golf once a week
b) in hospital with my daughter the whole year
c) started a new job and been promoted due to my work that year
d) took exams and passed
e) painted my whole house (badly)
f) cracked unfunny jokes on these forums.
I wouldn't change anything, as long as that balance is there that's all that matters
But I do find it difficult explaining this hobby to people. A lot of my friends don't get it.
Yep, I don't think anyone on the wowdetox site was doing a quarter of what you were doing outside the game.
10-boxing Alliance Sargeras and Kil'jaeden
I think you completely missed the point of that site. People are disgusted with the amount of time wasted, the amount of life wasted. Obviously, with the amount of time most of those posters spent playing wow they didnt have a hard time finding wow "fun" for a long period of time. Its only when they realized how much time they were putting into the game and that its nothing but a never ending cycle and that there can never be any ultimate fulfillment with in the game.
Dont bash people because it took them a longer to figure out what you apparently already knew. Its either that or you yourself are in denial.
Last edited by Fat Tire : 02-19-2011 at 12:25 PM
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