Mosg2's DK Manifesto

[Ualaa]

I prioritize the Frost Strikes ahead of the Necrotic Strike.

The software does execute top down.
Even though you are essentially spamming six buttons, the earlier spells are sent first and have a higher chance to be cast then the later spells.

I'd ideally like a system where:
a) Howling Blast is cast, if there are available Frost Runes;
b) When there are no Frost Runes, Frost Strike if there is Runic Power;
c) When no Frost Runes or Runic Power, do a Blood Tap;
d) Necrotic Strike when all that fails;
e) and Blood Strike if a-d fails;
f) and Hungering Cold if everything else fails.

Cannot quite get that precise.
But the six buttons being spammed is pretty decent.




I like the Priest route too.

I initially set up the Priest to join the DK's.
Then set the Paladin up.
And have ended up going with the Priest.

While not as durable as the Paladin..
I like Mass Dispel, and the Priest is my favorite healer.

Playing the Healing, with a mixture of Follow the Healer and IWT is very different.
Still learning the keybinds for the team; unfortunately, use the same keybinds for several teams.
So Shift A, is both Bear Form and Death & Decay.
But focusing on two primary teams, instead of seven.. might be able to learn the keybinds a bit faster.




The Mind Freeze is basically...

You have the software withhold the sending of a given keystroke for the predetermined duration.
You still have to push each keystroke yourself.
It just won't do anything, until the elapsed time has passed.

If you could push the button.
Wait for the determined time to pass.
And have the software push the button which you had queued previously, that would be a delay and bannable.

But the reverse...
Specifically not allowing a pushed button to be sent, is not in violation of the ToS/EULA at all.
You still have to push each Mind Freeze yourself, so it's ok.

[Slats]

OK I'm having issues.

I have several abilities I just never use. or activate with this 6 button spam style setup.

Is perhap the fact I have F bound to two keymaps also splitting that input so everything in Step 2 on the first keymap is harder to get through?

I have 3 HB, 1x PS, 2x FS, 1x BS, 1x HC.

I never ever seem to use PS or BS. Just a shit load of HB and the odd Frost Strike. Mind Freeze seems to be going off just fine. I've tried moving the buttons around a bit but while PS will go off every now and then its still feeling very busted.

Can someone put their Mind Freeze Keymap and their DPS Keymap into pastebin so I can import it and take a look?

[ashlor]

http://pastebin.com/kHUQhj9N

Here are my teams key maps Shift 4-6 are Defensive CDs Ams lichborn and IBF F3 is mount then the RR for death grip and send next click for DnD
on my bars in order 1-6 HB/HB/HB/FS/FS/PS,BS (cast sequence)
hope they help you figure out what you got going on =)

[Slats]

Thanks for jumping on my server ashlor was good to chat.

This is the solution I ended up going with - which long story short is dong ask ISBoxer to send a million modifier combinations of the same key rapidly along with expecting it to do FTL well.

It seemed my game clients didn't like me using key combinations like Ctrl +7 Alt +7 etc the way I was. Because in Step 1 I was also calling FTL I think perhaps there wasn't enough time in between the FTL modifer call and the keys being sent. Possible latency issue as I'm in AU on about 350ms ping.

I instead changed it up a bit. On downkey I am doing:

FTL Assist > Self
Melee IWT > DK's
1 > DK's (HB/IT)

On up I'm doing:

1> DK's (HB/IT)
1> DK's (HB/IT)
4 > DK's (FS)
4> DK's (FS)
2 > DK's (PS/Necrotic)
3 > DK's (BS)
Shift [ > DK's. (Hungering Cold)

Set it up with F being the trigger key and my Mind Freeze RR set to F also.

Works beautifully, gained 2-300dps (@68 so no HB yet for me) and my MF goes off just about every time its up and Hungering goes off quite reguarly and randomly.

Very very pleased!

[JackBurton]

b) When there are no Frost Runes, Frost Strike if there is Runic Power;
c) When no Frost Runes or Runic Power, do a Blood Tap;

I know your probally just making a priority top to bottom setup but can you see party members runes from Pitbull4?

[Ualaa]

I was using Pitbull 3.x prior to the Warcraft 4.x patch... which broke Pitbull 3.x. I looked at Pitbull 4.x, but it didn't have all the options I wanted, or at least after several hours of messing around with it, I could not find them. So I went with another unit frame addon, pretty sure it was Shadowed Unit Frames... which the default profile had exactly what I couldn't find with the newer Pitbull. Pretty sure I was looking for the Target of my Party Members, as a dragable bar, so I could position all four of them in a vertical stack immediately beneath the party frames.

Pretty sure Pitbull could be configured to show party runes; if you're willing to dig deep enough, it's been able to do just about everything else... But I'd rather have a mashable sequence, which prioritizes (as closely as possible) HB > FS > NS > Other Moves... and just mash the sequence, and then worry about targeting the team for IWT and Healing... and not actively manage my DPS based on the runes available.

Frost Strike has a 45% chance to instantly replenish a spent rune. Which is why I'd like to Howling Blast > Frost Strike, as with only Frost Runes spent, those would automatically be the replenished rune. Blood Tap is on the GCD, so while I don't mind it being cast prior to combat, it is a burst loss in combat. Necrotic Strike is the other big ability, which I'd like to stagger 4x every 5 seconds, so they're regularly being applied at an even pace.

[thedreameater]

Horde the clear choice is BE.

Ally human or worgen probably.

This is if you are absolutely set on min maxing.

The human trinket racial is really good and Worgen(And goblins) just have stupidly strong racials period)

BE's have arcane torrent and grip + arcane torrent spells insta-doom for any caster you suck in and you don't even need to use mind freeze to accomplish this. When I enter large fights, just running into as many casters as possible and cycling your arcane torrents works wonders for cutting healing or ranged magic DPS down.

I've skimmed the 20+ pages and didn't find a true preference for race. I've seen some are already going Orc..

Any thoughts about race preference?

[JackBurton]

http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t110296-...3_stereo_love/

Worgen
The fact that they’re new is irrelevant; Worgen have, hands down, the best PvE racials of any Alliance (or, debatably, any) race. Visciousness provides a passive 1% crit, while Darkflight gives the utility of a 40% speed sprint every 3 minutes. The two just cannot be beat, and their value isn’t dependent on using a specific weapon type or gearing around a special stat cap.

Goblin
It shouldn’t come as any huge surprise that Goblins, being a brand new race, are much better than average. 1% increased attack/cast speed is quite decent, and a resource-free nuke (or, alternatively, blink) on a 2 minute cooldown is free dps, pure and simple. Easily the best horde race for Frost, although the competition isn’t exactly stellar, and they would easily lose out to Worgen and, potentially, Draenei.

Orc
Orcs are decent, but nothing stellar. 3 expertise when using an axe, 5% pet damage, and a 15s boost to AP every 2 minutes. Although that may all look good on paper, when you consider that the expertise boost is based on weapon itemization available, the pet boost is essentially meaningless for us, and the AP cooldown scales with level (1170 at 85) and not gear... well, it's nothing too special to say the least. Still, second best is better than last, and Orcs handily beat the rest of the horde races.

[Noids]

I chose gnomes for my DKs.

The logical part of this choice is the trinket free racial to escape snares which is sweet for melee classes.

The illogical part is the joy of seeing 4 small specs moving to and swarming a massive tauren and one shotting them :P

I do likt the fact that gnomes are slightly harder to click target in PvP also, but with arena bars this is negligible really.

I would suggest picking a race you enjoy playing rather than purely based on racials. In effect racials really only make 1% difference at best.

[Ualaa]

I like Blood Elves for horde.

From a mechanical point of view, the AoE silence is another excellent tool for the domination of casters.
The extra DPS for Goblins is probably superior, but I hate AoE fear and Spell Cleave as a boxer...

And from an aesthetic point of view, all my toons are female so Blood Elves are the premier horde option here.