Boxing Rating BGs... gonna do it?

[BrothelMeister]

I don't know how people can think that taking up 4 slots in a 10v10 is Bad. In 5v5, we take up 80% of the team!

With coordinated efforts from Both sides, a 10v10 with a 4 Boxer will not be any worse off than an arena with 4 boxer.

Now, when it comes to multiple boxers, yes, I can see how more than one 4-5 boxer in a 10v10, or 15v15 would be pretty harsh, since it really cuts down on the ground your team can cover. But a single 4-5 boxer on a team can definitely be a good tool to the team's toolbox, especially as an assassin of Flag carriers.

[heyaz]

I don't know how people can think that taking up 4 slots in a 10v10 is Bad. In 5v5, we take up 80% of the team!.

Arena is a lot different, you mostly stand in one place and the only objective is to kill the other players. In 10 man battlegrounds (WSG specifically) there is a more important objective - to capture the flag. The other team can do a lot to limit your mobility, including sapping one of your shaman at a time. Not to mention if you lose a shaman or two while traveling you either have to continue to go return the flag with half your team, or run back and get the others. I've seen a single rogue, in a pug, make me completely useless for an entire WSG by sapping one shaman at a time. You can bet that will be a pretty common strategy for premades. I know you've played enough arenas to know that you don't get a guaranteed kill even with all four shaman, especially when the flag carrier might have multiple healers. Unlike arena, killing off healers or targets annoying you with heavy CC doesn't always equal a win - they respawn and come back. I've spent plenty of WSG games nuking targets 1 by 1 trying to get a shot at the flag carrier only to have them respawn over and over. This kind of thing happens in AB as well and is the reason a boxer often cannot capture a node by themselves - you end up killing the same guys 4 times and eventually go OOM or start losing shaman, and never accomplish anything.

As for using a boxer for killing the flag carrier - it's not always going to work out like that. I've played enough arena to see 4 or even only 3 DPS global my shaman so many times because they're better positioned, more efficient with spells, and able to take advantage of the situation with CC and also have others help debuff your team before the global kill. Instant lava bursts and other kill combos just isn't a instant, guaranteed kill anymore.