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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril View Post
    The rest of what I quoted gave your multiboxing history, not a reason as to why you'd making it harder on yourself. So I am curious...

    Why?

    Perhaps you are you trying to prove a point?
    What level are you, or, what is the the highest level of content you've experienced as a multiboxer?
    I'm not trying to prove a point, I'm honestly asking for help.

    I'm not a high level multiboxer, I just started a matter of days ago, perhaps 1 week, I dont remember.
    I haven't been playing wow for long either.

    So far I've found that I dont like using key broadcasters to move the characters, because there are different latencies between the windows, they all dont move at the same time, I think casting spells would be alright though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PineBeach View Post
    So far I've found that I dont like using key broadcasters to move the characters, because there are different latencies between the windows, they all dont move at the same time, I think casting spells would be alright though.
    If I created a character on your realm and watched your characters /follow each other around using any key broadcasting software they'd all be the same. What you're seeing is your own visual lag. Unless your computer is not able to handle 5 instances of the game at once I'm not sure how key broadcasting software would give you in game movement issues? If that is the only reason you're not using key broadcasting software I can only suggest to start trying some or else you might end up quitting before you even get a chance to begin. To each his own though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril View Post
    If I created a character on your realm and watched your characters /follow each other around using any key broadcasting software they'd all be the same. What you're seeing is your own visual lag. Unless your computer is not able to handle 5 instances of the game at once I'm not sure how key broadcasting software would give you in game movement issues? If that is the only reason you're not using key broadcasting software I can only suggest to start trying some or else you might end up quitting before you even get a chance to begin. To each his own though.
    Thanks for that.

    What I'm seeing is the delay between pressing the key to move in one window and the time it takes for that command to reach the server and then get sent back to all the other windows. It sort of annoys me to hit the key whilst looking at a window and see one character move, while the other characters haven't started to move yet because the server hasn't sent the message to say that they have started to move. Hope that makes sense. That's my interpretation of it.

    I really can't imagine quitting now that I've started, I really enjoy having a "Party" of characters to go adventuring with. I'm not trying to beat anyone or prove any kind of point about my skills. I used to play ssi role playing games as a teenager and I played warcraft 1 too. Just having fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PineBeach View Post
    I'm not trying to beat anyone or prove any kind of point about my skills.
    If you can multibox current end game content without the use of key broadcasting software, then I tip my hat to you my friend. I believe you would be the first to accomplish such a feat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenril View Post
    If you can multibox current end game content without the use of key broadcasting software, then I tip my hat to you my friend. I believe you would be the first to accomplish such a feat.
    I've got little interest in attaining that particular achievement.

    I can imagine using a key broadcaster to make all the spell casters cast a spell at the same time, it would be really handy. But movement just makes my head hurt. I need to see the characters move exactly when I move them, not a short while later.

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    Here is the HotKeyNet script I came up with to arrange the windows

    Code:
    //-----------------------------------------------------------
    // SUBROUTINE TO LAUNCH AND RENAME A COPY OF WOW.
    //-----------------------------------------------------------
    <Command LaunchAndRename>
       <SendPC %1%> 
          <Run "C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe">
            <RenameTargetWin %2%>
    //-----------------------------------------------------------
    // HOTKEY TO LAUNCH AND RENAME
    //-----------------------------------------------------------
    <Hotkey ScrollLockOn Alt Ctrl L>
        <LaunchAndRename Local WoW1>
        <TargetWin WoW1>
            <SetWinRect 0 0 965 795>
        <LaunchAndRename Local WoW2>
        <TargetWin WoW2>
            <SetWinRect 0 795 965 795>
        <LaunchAndRename Local WoW3>
        <TargetWin WoW3>
            <SetWinRect 965 0 795 660>
        <LaunchAndRename Local WoW4>
        <TargetWin WoW4>
            <SetWinRect 1760 0 795 660>
        <LaunchAndRename Local WoW5>
        <TargetWin WoW5>
            <SetWinRect 965 660 1135 930>
    The next step is to get the windows to swap around using some sort of key press combination

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    Quote Originally Posted by PineBeach View Post
    I've got little interest in attaining that particular achievement.

    I can imagine using a key broadcaster to make all the spell casters cast a spell at the same time, it would be really handy. But movement just makes my head hurt. I need to see the characters move exactly when I move them, not a short while later.
    Not going to happen unfortunately, even if you're pretty close to the server. What's happening is this:

    1. You move your main.
    2. The movement of your main is sent to the server.
    3. The server tells your followers that your main moved.
    4. The followers move in response and tells the server they've moved.
    5. The server tells your main that your followers moved.

    I'm an Oceanic boxer. My latency is never much less than 200ms and often over 300ms. Each of those 5 steps would require - at a minimum - my latency time to accomplish. Thus, the best case scenario for me is to see my followers move 1.25 seconds after my main started moving.

    Has nothing to do with whether you use multiboxing software or not, is a simple fact of the finite speed of communications between you and the server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzPhoenix View Post
    Not going to happen unfortunately.
    I dont have any issue with characters following each other.

    The problem I had was when I moved all the characters at the same time using WASD, or if I send movement to individual characters using other keys.

    I appreciate your breakdown of the client server communication that takes place when multiboxing, it quite clearly illustrates the reason why moving other characters from the main window has a slight delay.

    What initially put me off of broadcasting software was that the one I used for the first time didn't allow any kind of configuration, so there was no way to prevent WASD from being sent to all windows. So I used macros and lua to make the characters follow each other, and didn't bother with the key broadcasting software.

    Since that initial experience I've moved my multiboxing efforts onto a different operating system, which has a wider range of multiboxing software freely available.

    Following owltoids advice I've found that HotKeyNet can allow me to launch five instances of wow more easily and has the ability to rearrange the window size and position during gameplay.

    HotKeyNet also broadcasts key presses, and is highly configurable. I couldn't get HotKeyNet when I started out, it's not available on os x. If my initial experience had been with that then I would have been fully prepared to use it to send keys "1" to "=" to the others characters as skwert suggests.

    Quote Originally Posted by OzPhoenix View Post
    Has nothing to do with whether you use multiboxing software or not, is a simple fact of the finite speed of communications between you and the server.
    Since I started using HotKeyNet about 15 hours ago I haven't taken advantage of it's key broadcasting capabilities during gameplay, however, as time passes I'm certain that I will start to use those features.

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