shaman dps, stop heal, cont dps macro

[Ughmahedhurtz]

GCD = global cooldown. Anytime you use an item or cast most spells, it triggers a global cooldown of 1.5 seconds so you can't spam things too fast.

There are basically three ways folks heal in between DPS.

1) Use click healing with the assistance of "click-boxes" or "repeater regions" (whatever fancy schmancy terminology you wanna call it by). This is the new fad and is easier to set up than custom multi-key healing macros.

2) Use custom multi-key healing macros. Example: I use V and G for my main DPS keys but have keys 1-5 set up to heal the tank and each of the 4 party members. Done right, you can even invite other people to the group without having to change macros to heal the party. If you decide you'd like to do this, let me know and I'll expand a bit on the theory for this. It works well but requires some thought and planning.

3) Weave healing spells into your DPS rotation. You'll have to create a "fall-through" macro for this to work well. Here's what I did as one of my options:

/assist focus
/stopmacro  [noharm] [dead]
/castsequence reset=5 flame shock, lava burst, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, ,,,,, ,,,,,
/cast [@party1] lesser healing wave

Then I just spam that key on all my shammy alts.

For your alts, Party1 will always be the group leader. Party2-4 will be your other alts and @player will be the self-target.

Hope that helps.
Ugh

[Cypress]

GCD = global cooldown. Anytime you use an item or cast most spells, it triggers a global cooldown of 1.5 seconds so you can't spam things too fast.

There are basically three ways folks heal in between DPS.

1) Use click healing with the assistance of "click-boxes" or "repeater regions" (whatever fancy schmancy terminology you wanna call it by). This is the new fad and is easier to set up than custom multi-key healing macros.

2) Use custom multi-key healing macros. Example: I use V and G for my main DPS keys but have keys 1-5 set up to heal the tank and each of the 4 party members. Done right, you can even invite other people to the group without having to change macros to heal the party. If you decide you'd like to do this, let me know and I'll expand a bit on the theory for this. It works well but requires some thought and planning.

3) Weave healing spells into your DPS rotation. You'll have to create a "fall-through" macro for this to work well. Here's what I did as one of my options:

/assist focus
/stopmacro  [noharm] [dead]
/castsequence reset=5 flame shock, lava burst, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, lightning bolt, ,,,,, ,,,,,
/cast [@party1] lesser healing wave

Then I just spam that key on all my shammy alts.

For your alts, Party1 will always be the group leader. Party2-4 will be your other alts and @player will be the self-target.

Hope that helps.
Ugh

I will be up for the simplest solution (to use ), by the looks of it that is number 1. I read a posting sometime ago about that, using healbot and ISBoxer repeated regions. I have healbot, but I am using keyclone. So my question will be. how to get the shamans healbot to my paly screen ?

So i am guessing once I get it I can set up healbot to a simple macro like
/stopcasting
/cast Healing wave

but this will still leave the problem with the GCD, if i click on the button if I am on GCD it will not cast it... Is there a way to see the GCD from those clickable boxes, so i dont waste time clicking it when it will not cast

ooo seems like VuhDo is another option i did not know about, I will see what that has to offer

[Ughmahedhurtz]

My suggestion is to not use /stopcasting at all. Honestly, unless you're casting big heals (aka long cast time heals) or doing content that is hard enough that you're just barely living through it, you will rarely ever see the tank die before the heals go off. This is even more true once you learn the boss fights well enough to expect when damage is going to occur such that you need heals.

The short answer is that you're going to just have to pick one method and try it. There is no "just do these two quick steps and you'll be ezmode healing in 5 minutes" way to heal. Even with the relatively easy setup of repeater regions and click-heal addons, you still must configure your addons for the right heals and find an addon that will sort your team the same on all 5 team members or it won't work like you're expecting. Point being, everything is going to take some work to get any sort of efficiency.

[edit] Just noticed you said level 15. 5 more levels and you get Lesser Healing Wave. That's a fast-casting spell and 4 of those will heal probably 70-80% of a well-geared tank's health. While leveling, it'll usually overheal the tank but it won't waste all the mana that Healing Wave does.

[Khatovar]

There are basically three ways folks heal in between DPS....

4) Mouseover Healing. No clicking, highly configurable, no adjustment required between 5man or party member changes, no adjustment required between party healing and raid healing if you use a simple configuration {position = effect won't transfer over, but position = toon will} mouse positioning can be used to determine effect in the same manner as clicking specific mouse buttons {for ex. mouse on portrait = small heal, mouse on health bars = big heal, mouse on debuffs = dispell/cure, shift+mouse over portrait = shield...}, or you can use mouse positioning to determine which toon is doing what and no additional buttons to spam since it's tied to the same button as your normal spam rotations.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

4) Mouseover Healing. No clicking, highly configurable, no adjustment required between 5man or party member changes, no adjustment required between party healing and raid healing if you use a simple configuration {position = effect won't transfer over, but position = toon will} mouse positioning can be used to determine effect in the same manner as clicking specific mouse buttons {for ex. mouse on portrait = small heal, mouse on health bars = big heal, mouse on debuffs = dispell/cure, shift+mouse over portrait = shield...}, or you can use mouse positioning to determine which toon is doing what and no additional buttons to spam since it's tied to the same button as your normal spam rotations.

Interesting. Thanks for the tip. It's basically repeater regions as I understand it but I didn't know anything but ISBoxer could do this.

[Cypress]

So now I am lvl 21 (got shaman's lesser healing wave yeah)

I cant rly use buttons since I think thats only if u using ISboxer (for repeated regions) and I am using keyclone right now.
my healing right now more or less option 2):

E
all shamans stop casting and lesser heal paladin

F1
click macro rotating healing wave from one of the shamans to paladin.

It works ok for now, the biggest problem is how to reset the F1 macro. I was tinkling of not having a reset function, but that might off set the healing rotations. right now I have it reset on combat which means that most of the time the healing is done by one shaman, and that drains my mana.

Mouseover I think that will be effective as well. I remember there was a discussion about setting the same group order to slaves as it is to the master( so player is not necessary always on top of group). But for some reason i cant find the posting on that, i think it was an addon that can do that. I don't quite see how to connect the dsp macro to the mouseover heal macro tho

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Set your reset to something really long, like 90 seconds. (reset=90) That should delay enough that you'll usually already be on the next pull before it resets. You could also do a reset=alt so if your healing key is 1, pressing ALT+1 would reset it.

Caveat: I've not used a modifier key as a reset condition before, though wowwiki says it should work.

[Khatovar]

Mouseover I think that will be effective as well. I remember there was a discussion about setting the same group order to slaves as it is to the master( so player is not necessary always on top of group). But for some reason i cant find the posting on that, i think it was an addon that can do that. I don't quite see how to connect the dsp macro to the mouseover heal macro tho

Almost any unit frame addon can set your group order to a static order. I used Pitbull4 which allows you to add the player to the group frame, and then arrange the group frame alphabetically.


Connecting the DPS macro the the heal macro is simply a matter of setting up the script to point to the appropriate macros.

<Hotkey 2>
    
    <If MouseIsOverWindowRect WoW1 36 57 274 631>
        <SendLabel w2>
			<SaveMousePos>
			<Clickmouse Noclick 60% 60% Norestore>
		            <Key Lctrl 1>
			<Restoremousepos>
		<SendLabel w1, w3, w4, w5>
		<Key 2>
	<Else>
	<SendLabel w1, w2, w3, w4, w5>
		<Key 2>

What this says is -

If, while pressing key 2, my mouse is in this location {the coordinates of my group frames on my tank's screen}, move the mouse over to the same area on my healers screen and send key Lctrl 1 to my healer {Lctrl 1 being simply /cast [target=mouseover] Chain Heal in this case}, and send key 2 to all other WoW windows {being the various spam macros for my tank and DPS}, then move the mouse back {the movement is almost imperceptible}.

If, while pressing 2, my mouse is anywhere else, send key 2 to every WoW window {again, 2 being my normal spam for tank and DPS and my "heal spam"}.