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    Quote Originally Posted by genocyde View Post
    ... I've never considered being told I couldn't play wow for a week an inconvenience. That to me sounds like you are to involved.
    If by "too involved"you mean that I have 9+ other people that would miss me if I didn't log in for a few days, then yes. I am too involved.

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    Genocide it does sound like you're saying "i've always left my house unlocked even though there are thieves in the neighborhood". Now I know this is different but why bother taking the risk when you can now get it for free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svpernova09 View Post
    If by "too involved"you mean that I have 9+ other people that would miss me if I didn't log in for a few days, then yes. I am too involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vecter View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefunk View Post
    Genocide it does sound like you're saying "i've always left my house unlocked even though there are thieves in the neighborhood". Now I know this is different but why bother taking the risk when you can now get it for free?
    Actually, coincidentally I don't lock my house or garage or car very often. In fact I usually leave the keys in the ignition of my vehicles. There aren't thieves in my area though, other than anyone, anywhere, any time can be robbed or victimized. That's life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Svpernova09 View Post
    If by "too involved"you mean that I have 9+ other people that would miss me if I didn't log in for a few days, then yes. I am too involved.
    I guess I don't get that side of things because I mostly play with real life friends. Every time some prevents us from playing we just go shoot some pool or play disc golf.

    As far as my online friends that I don't know in real life.... I wouldn't spill my soda to put out a fire on their crotch... And they are aware of this if they've known me for a full conversation

    I guess I do have to respect that others may have an online community they interact with. After all, here I am on a forum!

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    Zenga gets my point of not owning one Its the principle. I am now paying for my principles with a small hassle.
    If I dont get anything back will I be upset? I would probably be a little upset, but I created the problem with getting a keylogger on my system.
    Should Blizzard be concerned if I am happy? Coming from someone who manages a 9 million dollar a year retail establishment, yes they should. I can easily decide to cancel my 75 bucks a month plus they lose out on possible upgrades to Cataclysim and many more expansions to come.

    I deal with a clientel that has credit lines with my company, if someone unauthorized comes in and purchases on thier account we are liabel as a company. We cannot hide behind the "We are a victim of our own success" line that people love to pull out whenever they dont want to handle a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manben View Post
    ...but I created the problem with getting a keylogger on my system.
    Exactly why it's not free. All systems are vulnerable to some extent and from varying perspectives. The case of "account hacking" is client-side. Something that can be prevented without an authenticator if you just follow strict measures of safe computing. Authenticator is not mandatory as it is only an extra layer of security for your account. Think extended warranty not limited warranty. Limited warranty is when they restore your account.


    Quote Originally Posted by Manben View Post
    . I deal with a clientel that has credit lines with my company, if someone unauthorized comes in and purchases on thier account we are liabel as a company. We cannot hide behind the "We are a victim of our own success" line that people love to pull out whenever they dont want to handle a problem.
    Restoring your account is like shouldering fraudulent costs. Does your company provide an authenticator-type or biometric devices to add protection and prevent CC fraud? For an additional cost?

    I'm not trying to argue Manben statements. Really, I just don't want to have to deal with work anymore today so... Yeah. Really, this is kinda like the sparkly pony issue. Only not about a pony anymore..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manben View Post
    Zenga gets my point of not owning one Its the principle. I am now paying for my principles with a small hassle.
    If I dont get anything back will I be upset? I would probably be a little upset, but I created the problem with getting a keylogger on my system.
    Should Blizzard be concerned if I am happy? Coming from someone who manages a 9 million dollar a year retail establishment, yes they should. I can easily decide to cancel my 75 bucks a month plus they lose out on possible upgrades to Cataclysim and many more expansions to come.

    I deal with a clientel that has credit lines with my company, if someone unauthorized comes in and purchases on thier account we are liabel as a company. We cannot hide behind the "We are a victim of our own success" line that people love to pull out whenever they dont want to handle a problem.
    Really you're blaming the wrong people. You're blaming Blizzard for people trying to hack their game which they have no control over. The authenticator was made for you as an extra security measure is all. It costs Blizzard tons of time and money undoing what the hackers do to people like you.

    While I won't say Blizz doesn't milk people out of money- the authenticator is one thing I don't feel they try and use to make money from. That's why they're like 7 bucks with free shipping,

    My authenticator is insurance against the hackers in case I screw up. No matter how careful I am (and I am paranoid careful) there's always that chance I go to a disquised website such as yourself. When you get a keylogger it really isn't Blizzard's fault now is it?! You're the one who chose to goto that website and were tricked by thieves.

    Principles are something I can really understand- but think your principles are misplaced when it comes to this whole authenticator business.

    As for slowing you down while logging in... Doesn't slow me down really and I log in multiple times a day as well. I even manually input the 5 codes it doesn't bug me or take more than a couple of mins. If you're in that big of a hurry then there are ways to enter your authenticator code just once for all 5 clients. It's in one of the threads here on dual boxing.

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    At this point im just arguing for the fun of it .

    My authenticator is insurance against the hackers in case I screw up.
    Why should I pay for insurance? Dont I already pay them 15 bucks a month? I should expect some sort of system that protects my account.

    I even manually input the 5 codes it doesn't bug me or take more than a couple of mins
    3 minutes a day say on average 2-3 logins a days say 200 average days played a year.

    3*3*200= 1800mins a year/60 = 30 hours a year of login time That is being generous most will have much more.

    Does your company provide an authenticator-type or biometric devices to add protection and prevent CC fraud?
    Yes we do they are called employees . I do not charge my customers extra to protect thier accounts it is assumed as part of the service we provide.
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