Cataclysm: Future of Dk/Rets

[Mosg2]

I'm totally psyched by these changes.

You're trading the ability to defensively dispel to get:

More damage.
More healing.
A better-than-MS effect.
Click-Pets.

[Firstcow]

I'm totally psyched by these changes.

You're trading the ability to defensively dispel to get:

More damage.
More healing.
A better-than-MS effect.
Click-Pets.

I'm still worried by the loss of Cleanse for rets. One game in arena I lost against a lower rated team because one mage was spamming blizzard on my team and a priest mass dispell. My rets went down in HP all of them as the same time, while not being able to move at all. I could have escaped if I spammed Cleanse each pally on itself, instead of spamming Cleanse with all pallies on one target at a time.

Now imagine Cleanse is gone, and you're at -70% speed and freedom is on cooldown, and a mage is spamming improved blizzard. You're toast, you can't use any melee abilities. All you can do is bubble during which you have 50% less dmg and they probably run away from you anyway during bubble.

Basically without Cleanse even if you can hit 10 times harder there's nothing to hit. Unless you fight scrubs who stay near you.

[Shodokan]

I'm still worried by the loss of Cleanse for rets. One game in arena I lost against a lower rated team because one mage was spamming blizzard on my team and a priest mass dispell. My rets went down in HP all of them as the same time, while not being able to move at all. I could have escaped if I spammed Cleanse each pally on itself, instead of spamming Cleanse with all pallies on one target at a time.

Now imagine Cleanse is gone, and you're at -70% speed and freedom is on cooldown, and a mage is spamming improved blizzard. You're toast, you can't use any melee abilities. All you can do is bubble during which you have 50% less dmg and they probably run away from you anyway during bubble.

Basically without Cleanse even if you can hit 10 times harder there's nothing to hit. Unless you fight scrubs who stay near you.

What skilled mage puts into improved blizzard? Take the loss to the random scrub and re-que.

[Fat Tire]

Divine Storm will get the Whirlwind treatment (less damage per target but unlimited targets).