What's the first "real" test?

[Littleburst]

What do you all consider to be the first "real" test of a multi-boxing team?

For me, so far, I think it's been BRD, getting all the way to the Emperor and taking him out - being able to respond to gimmicks, having to selectively pick which opponents get hit (don't hit the princess!!), etc.

Ther isn't a real test. Most boxers are happy once they got their first HC cleared, you could maybe say clearing the 3 ICC HC's. But gear will always have a big influence.

[kate]

Ther isn't a real test. Most boxers are happy once they got their first HC cleared, you could maybe say clearing the 3 ICC HC's. But gear will always have a big influence.

My question was more about the test of the player's ability to manage their team - to be honest, I think doing certain low-level instances at or below the required level is much more challenging than most of the Heroic WOTLK dungeons.

For example, doing a full Wailing Caverns clear with a team of level 19s is much harder than doing Heroic Violet Hold with a team full of decently geared 80's. You don't have all your skills yet, the mobs can significantly outlevel you, etc. Certainly running heroics and eventually raiding is the end goal, but there are definitely some challenging things on the way. Suggesting that content that the vast majority of the playerbase will never see is the first "test" is a little overkill, IMO.

[Pocalypse]

My question was more about the test of the player's ability to manage their team - to be honest, I think doing certain low-level instances at or below the required level is much more challenging than most of the Heroic WOTLK dungeons.

For example, doing a full Wailing Caverns clear with a team of level 19s is much harder than doing Heroic Violet Hold with a team full of decently geared 80's. You don't have all your skills yet, the mobs can significantly outlevel you, etc. Certainly running heroics and eventually raiding is the end goal, but there are definitely some challenging things on the way. Suggesting that content that the vast majority of the playerbase will never see is the first "test" is a little overkill, IMO.

I agree with this. Seeing how low you can be and still complete an instance is fun. I've recently started a new mixed team on a new server, so no heirlooms, and have found I can usually complete an instances when I'm 4 levels below the final boss' level.

Example BRD, I could finish at lvl 52, with the emperor lvl 56. I got all the way to magmus at lvl 50, but he was 56 and kept resisting my taunts . DM East I could do at 54, with the final boss at 58.

[kate]

I agree with this. Seeing how low you can be and still complete an instance is fun. I've recently started a new mixed team on a new server, so no heirlooms, and have found I can usually complete an instances when I'm 4 levels below the final boss' level.

Example BRD, I could finish at lvl 52, with the emperor lvl 56. I got all the way to magmus at lvl 50, but he was 56 and kept resisting my taunts . DM East I could do at 54, with the final boss at 58.

I just this morning did my first "full" (as in, killing every boss, doing every gimmick) clear of BRD - I hit 54 on everyone by the time it was done and the quests were turned in. It took... a long time... not due to wipes as much as just wow, that instance is freaking HUGE!!

I'm kind of looking forward to 58 - then I can hit Outlands instances, and I want to try it with only classic gear. I'm expecting it to be a bloodbath, but it should be fun!