Bad with Macros

[Supasnake]

I understand the frustration people have with new people like me complaining., but once I learn what I need I plan on fixing this problem.

The problem I refer to is that all the guides on the information page are varied and inconsistent. As an instructor in my job I understand it's not simple to teach others information that is already known. We all have varying levels of prior knowledge. My point is there should be, and I might put this together myself, when making a general guide you should make it to the lowest denominator. Also you have to actually realize that some people don't understand something until they have seen it. That is why anyone who teaches knows to use written, visual, and hearing to give the student the maximum capacity for learning.

That being said, I understand macros and understand ISBoxer, but I was kinda frustrated by the rabbit holes needed to be followed (ie links on the wiki that took you back to the forums) and videos that generalized to the point they were just explaining concept. I know I may get flamed for posting this but so be it.

Honestly where every new person to boxing should start is http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...guide-one.html and then build off of that.

[Dorffo]

I understand the frustration people have with new people like me complaining., but once I learn what I need I plan on fixing this problem.

The problem I refer to is that all the guides on the information page are varied and inconsistent. As an instructor in my job I understand it's not simple to teach others information that is already known. We all have varying levels of prior knowledge. My point is there should be, and I might put this together myself, when making a general guide you should make it to the lowest denominator. Also you have to actually realize that some people don't understand something until they have seen it. That is why anyone who teaches knows to use written, visual, and hearing to give the student the maximum capacity for learning.

That being said, I understand macros and understand ISBoxer, but I was kinda frustrated by the rabbit holes needed to be followed (ie links on the wiki that took you back to the forums) and videos that generalized to the point they were just explaining concept. I know I may get flamed for posting this but so be it.

Honestly where every new person to boxing should start is http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...guide-one.html and then build off of that.

Fair enough, I think what I was trying to point out is that there are a number of step-by-step guides available: Did you read through these?

http://www.dual-boxing.com/showpost....44&postcount=1

or specifically:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?p=243197

and the guide over here seemed to cover most of the basis:
http://www.lavishsoft.com/wiki/index...ld_of_Warcraft

Or the priest + lock guide here: (Ualaa's detailed team setup)
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthread.php?t=27648


Edit: also just so you're aware of a bit of community history - at one point there were a number of highly detailed guides available showing all keybinds/macros/software setup etc that certain community members had put hours and hours into. Due to a number of factors (now bygones) those have since been removed by their respective authors.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

Look at it like this. We give you schematics of a bunch of different tinkertoy pieces, all of which have standard connector holes. We even show you a few types of houses you can build with varying generic parts. We also provide you with examples of some of the more complex parts, including a bunch that people use every day, including how to build those Windows, Doors and even a little bit of furniture for specific applications. But we don't tell you 100% how to build your house by specifying how many of this piece and how many of that piece. It's up to you to decide what kind of house you want to build based on your desired results.

Why aren't there complete, ground-up, hand-holding examples for every major combination? Primarily two-fold:

• It is time-consuming work, and nobody here gets paid to do that for you.
• Everyone's tastes in keyboard layouts, UI mods, and even rotations need to be tailored to their specific needs, most of the time including the need for different macros that are specific to certain types of fights. (e.g.: trash vs boss, farming vs instances, aoe vs non-aoe, 5-man vs raid, etc.)

IMO, your only valid complaints are:

1. Since ISBoxer costs money, you could argue that complete @80 setup guides should be part of the "box deal." That's between you and the program's author, though.
2. Some of our wiki links are still broken after the site moved to the new boards. We know this is true but until/unless someone points the broken links out to us to be fixed, complaining about "rabbit hole links" in general just makes you part of the problem, not the solution.

I'll leave the rest of your ISBoxer-specific setup discussion to you and the other IB users.