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[Shodokan]

low leveling enchants are crazy expensive. Really most low level mats are rediculous. There is gold to be made and lost there.

Yes there is... Especially in outland greens on my server. It's making me want to start abusing the tailoring trick from BC.

[Sajuuk]

Yes there is... Especially in outland greens on my server. It's making me want to start abusing the tailoring trick from BC.

That works fine until you flood the market and the person running that portion of the AH decides to just undercut you.

[thinus]

On the subject of making gold, what is the best use of Frostweave Cloth? I have so much of the stuff I am having to buy extra bank tabs for it.

[Shodokan]

That works fine until you flood the market and the person running that portion of the AH decides to just undercut you.

This is why you control the market instead of flooding it. You speak like i'm some retarded kid who just got off the short bus. On my server there really isn't anyone selling these materials in the long term. What do i care if some idiot undercuts me a few times? I can always undercut them back as most of those players will not check their auctions every few hours.

On the subject of making gold, what is the best use of Frostweave Cloth? I have so much of the stuff I am having to buy extra bank tabs for it.

That is server dependent. The best use on my server is frost weave bags.

Cost: 6 bolts of imbued netherweave ( 10 cloth + 2 dust per bolt) and a thread

On my server dust is 2g each, so you'd need 12 (24g for all), then the cloth is ~ 4g per stack (12g total) and bags sell for 50-55g

This means that for a 36g investment you get back 50-55g. That is a 14 to 19g profit per bag. They can take a bit to sell though. But if you get the mats yourself say doing heroics you are looking at... ~ 3 greens worth of infinite dust. So for every 3 stacks of frostweave + 3ish greens worth of disenchanted materials you get about 50g. It's not bad at all.

[Knytestorme]

But if you get the mats yourself say doing heroics you are looking at... ~ 3 greens worth of infinite dust. So for every 3 stacks of frostweave + 3ish greens worth of disenchanted materials you get about 50g. It's not bad at all.

Falicy here, you still need to take into account how much you are losing by not selling the items or mats on the AH. This obviously then means that it makes no difference if you get the cloth or dust yourself and use it for making the bags or sell it on the AH and then use the funds to buy them back off the AH to make the bags.

This also doesn't take into account that it's more expensive for you to use mats gotten while grinding if the item sells to a vendor for more than the mats de'd from it can be brought from the AH. For example, dust is 2g per dust, item that sells for 10g to vendor will de into 4 dust means that you will cost yourself 2g min by de'ing it yourself and using the mats rather than selling it to vendor and buying dusts from AH.

[Shodokan]

Falicy here, you still need to take into account how much you are losing by not selling the items or mats on the AH. This obviously then means that it makes no difference if you get the cloth or dust yourself and use it for making the bags or sell it on the AH and then use the funds to buy them back off the AH to make the bags.

This also doesn't take into account that it's more expensive for you to use mats gotten while grinding if the item sells to a vendor for more than the mats de'd from it can be brought from the AH. For example, dust is 2g per dust, item that sells for 10g to vendor will de into 4 dust means that you will cost yourself 2g min by de'ing it yourself and using the mats rather than selling it to vendor and buying dusts from AH.

Stating common sense is amazing. That goes for any green being DE'd. You take the risk of getting less than the worth of the item sold to vendor. Regardless of if you get the mats yourself or buy them it is still 14-19g better to make bags than not. The 55g is pure profit if you get all the mats yourself regardless of if it would sell for less if you used the items in other ways. Opposed to having only the gold to make the bags. You'd be making the 36ish gold either way if the items are yours (greens, cloth etc) So calling it a falicy is just silly and you're calling me out on something so small that it seems counterproductive.

Regardless your point is "correct". From my personal experience most things that DE from instances are worth around 4g each (i mostly see rings and cloth drop). So you are looking to DE ~3 items (assuming item level 75+ which now de to 3-5 dust[could be more, was 2-5 before but i know it was changed] or 1-2 GCE) that is ~12g which is less than buying the dust on most servers. So the point may be valid but moot at best. You obviously will not DE a green that will sell for 8g unless you have a 75% chance to get at least ONE greater cosmic. Like stated before, i would like to assume people have common sense.