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    Well, last night was interesting. I'm on the last set of missions in the L1 epic arc. My passive-tank Caracal can basically tank the Kritsan Parthus ship forever but I can't stay in range of him for my missiles to have any sustained effect. :P Getting outrun in a cruiser by a BC = lol. Going to have to go train jamming 1 and see if I can put a webifier on for that guy, assuming a webifier will last long enough for me to finish him off before my cap drains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz View Post
    Well, last night was interesting. I'm on the last set of missions in the L1 epic arc. My passive-tank Caracal can basically tank the Kritsan Parthus ship forever but I can't stay in range of him for my missiles to have any sustained effect. :P Getting outrun in a cruiser by a BC = lol. Going to have to go train jamming 1 and see if I can put a webifier on for that guy, assuming a webifier will last long enough for me to finish him off before my cap drains.
    I understood every part of that. I hate having all this useless knowledge and having wasted so much time in EVE.

    Grrr.

    You'll need to train cap skills to get anywhere too. This is one reason why I gave up, it takes forever to train a character for anything serious. you need tanking skills, cap skills, ship skills, weapon skills, etc, etc. Some of those you have to train to 5 in order to get access to the useful ones.

    Get EVEMon and plan out everything you need to fly a battleship with Tech 2 weapons - then go play another game while paying for 9 months of EVE. When you get back you'll still be years behind everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinGBrown View Post
    I understood every part of that. I hate having all this useless knowledge and having wasted so much time in EVE.
    Such a huge waste given that he's talking about stuff you can easily get to after a few hours of gameplay.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobinGBrown View Post
    Get EVEMon and plan out everything you need to fly a battleship with Tech 2 weapons - then go play another game while paying for 9 months of EVE. When you get back you'll still be years behind everyone else.
    Putting more than a few tens of millions of SP on a single character is arguably a bad idea. You can skill up one character from now until forever, but you can only use so much stuff, and anything extra just drives your clone cost up when you die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaki View Post
    Such a huge waste given that he's talking about stuff you can easily get to after a few hours of gameplay.

    Putting more than a few tens of millions of SP on a single character is arguably a bad idea. You can skill up one character from now until forever, but you can only use so much stuff, and anything extra just drives your clone cost up when you die.
    In my limited experience, I agree completely. Spending a few million working on a specialized guy for missions and one for mining, say, makes sense. I can't see spending all that time on just one guy. Especially since, as you noted, the epic L1 arc missions are pretty freakin easy and quick to get into.

    After my first month of Eve, I was daunted by the skills that took weeks to train, too, but I was making the mistake of thinking that I needed a bigger ship as opposed to a broader or more specialized set of skills to be able to use the right tools for the job in a smaller ship. My Caracal was pretty stupid easy to get into and I've gone from having no skills further than halfway through frigates to having cruiser IV and level 3 skills on assault missiles, shields, caps, rigging, drones, EW, survey, etc. to allow me to basically permatank NPC BCs (one at a time) and missile them from 32k range with light missiles. Sure, I'm sorta broke but it's been a hella fun week and a half getting back into things.

    I really think the biggest problem is how little the game guides you into proper skill training for noobs so people end up training skills all over the place and then getting pissed when the skills they want are not only expensive but take a week to go from 1-5. Having EVEMON available to help plan stuff is HUGE. Most folks see the Tech 2 stuff and go "DAMN. Requires L5 skills which will take me MONTHS." When really, to get good Tech 1 stuff only takes about a day each to go from skill 1-4, meaning you can be into a battlecruiser in a couple weeks if you manage your money and skills right.

    At least, it's been my experience, anyway. :P
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