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mrmcgee21 WotLK - Trial of the Champion... 08-04-2009, 09:02 PM
Meathead Nice gratz think yo ucan make... 08-04-2009, 09:15 PM
Basilikos Show off. J/K good... 08-04-2009, 09:23 PM
mrmcgee21 I haven't been able to make... 08-04-2009, 09:23 PM
Meathead I say get your guys in some... 08-04-2009, 11:20 PM
Lyonheart i could not even beat the... 08-05-2009, 01:07 AM
thedreameater Why not? What did you get... 09-29-2009, 04:55 PM
Meathead The second boss is easy mode... 08-05-2009, 01:34 AM
Lyonheart i cant get past the 3 champs.... 08-05-2009, 02:03 AM
rulemaker Patch is coming live on... 08-05-2009, 03:41 AM
Meathead you can do it in blues and he... 08-05-2009, 03:55 AM
Lyonheart The 3 champs are hard.. they... 08-05-2009, 04:05 AM
mrmcgee21 Try backing your followers up... 08-05-2009, 07:26 AM
Greythan I singled boxed this with a... 08-05-2009, 10:23 AM
jimbobobb Woah - I can't imagine how a... 08-05-2009, 12:42 PM
pinotnoir I cannot get past the stupid... 08-05-2009, 11:39 PM
Smoooth Just make those 2 macros I... 08-06-2009, 12:23 AM
pinotnoir I got through the joust on... 08-06-2009, 12:48 AM
Meathead hmmm well sounds very hard... 08-05-2009, 12:17 PM
Greythan We blew through "normal" in... 08-05-2009, 12:42 PM
Dorffo after working out some... 08-05-2009, 01:30 PM
offive I concur on the Hyjal lag... 08-05-2009, 01:57 PM
Lyonheart I am struggling with the 3... 08-05-2009, 02:48 PM
Malekyth I got through to the second... 08-05-2009, 02:50 PM
Dorffo can you elaborate on the [... 08-05-2009, 04:03 PM
Malekyth I'm at work, but that looks... 08-05-2009, 06:09 PM
Meshuggenah The champions do back off and... 08-07-2009, 05:56 AM
Dorffo here's two vids of the... 08-07-2009, 06:38 AM
Greythan Dorrfo, that was on heroic? 08-07-2009, 08:53 AM
Dorffo Yeah that was heroic 08-07-2009, 01:33 PM
heffner Ok, so I have been trying... 08-05-2009, 04:31 PM
Dorffo you have to keep running over... 08-05-2009, 04:33 PM
Lyonheart i FINALLY cleared the normal... 08-05-2009, 04:35 PM
warbringer The first 3 waves of simple... 08-05-2009, 05:40 PM
heffner Well managed to squeek my way... 08-05-2009, 06:12 PM
Smoooth Thanks to all who have... 08-05-2009, 11:32 PM
Simulacra Thanks, is there a reason it... 08-07-2009, 12:06 PM
Smoooth Thanks for the macro, I... 08-07-2009, 03:18 PM
Khatovar Old post, but I just wanted... 09-04-2009, 05:04 AM
jimbobobb I have 2 vehicle macros: ... 08-06-2009, 02:19 AM
warbringer Do you keep your 4 slaves up... 08-06-2009, 04:45 AM
heyaz2 Surprisingly, this part... 08-06-2009, 02:50 AM
heffner Well I tried killing the... 08-06-2009, 03:07 AM
jimbobobb Slaves are backs against the... 08-06-2009, 05:07 AM
Void wow this argent confessor on... 08-06-2009, 02:06 PM
Dorffo Got Heroic Black Knight down... 08-06-2009, 02:25 PM
Greythan Need more updates ON HEROIC... 08-07-2009, 01:30 AM
Klesh We (4+1) just cleared it on... 08-07-2009, 11:43 AM
Meshuggenah How are you getting focus to... 08-07-2009, 05:12 PM
Dorffo have to re-focus after you... 08-07-2009, 05:16 PM
Smoooth Just cleared heroic and one... 08-07-2009, 09:25 PM
puppychow I reactivated my shamans so I... 08-08-2009, 02:52 AM
Clone Just completed the dungeon on... 08-08-2009, 09:54 AM
puppychow I did the heroic today (was... 08-08-2009, 04:53 PM
Meshuggenah Which addons are you guys... 08-08-2009, 05:33 PM
Smoooth Even though your bars... 08-08-2009, 05:47 PM
Greythan I use Bindpad for... 08-08-2009, 08:29 PM
puppychow I use Bartender4 and have to... 08-08-2009, 08:57 PM
king.pa I've just managed to clean... 08-09-2009, 09:41 AM
Meshuggenah Puppychows(I think it was... 08-09-2009, 02:57 PM
Lyonheart I just can not live through... 08-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Meshuggenah My strat is pretty simple. ... 08-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Lyonheart bah.. i never thought about... 08-09-2009, 05:58 PM
Greythan Lyon, is one of your shammies... 08-09-2009, 03:24 PM
Lyonheart yes. and i have tried to use... 08-09-2009, 03:31 PM
Smoooth On phase 3 I found a better... 08-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Greythan Grats Lyon! Working on... 08-09-2009, 10:25 PM
offive Went in to heroic for the... 08-19-2009, 10:49 AM
puppychow Ran regular a few times... 08-10-2009, 01:04 AM
pinotnoir I cleared normal when the guy... 08-10-2009, 09:49 AM
Prega i ve done multiple normal... 08-10-2009, 11:29 AM
pinotnoir I got past the whore. It... 08-10-2009, 11:29 AM
Volch0k I belive this happend to me,... 09-16-2009, 08:25 AM
Altsoba I'm always just near the... 09-16-2009, 09:25 AM
Raskaz I finally beat it on heroic... 08-10-2009, 05:49 PM
Reglar Just to reinforce the gear... 08-10-2009, 06:49 PM
Greythan Just beat Eadric on heroic... 08-11-2009, 12:00 AM
pinotnoir Last boss heroic... Phase... 08-11-2009, 01:23 AM
Smoooth Give it a few seconds before... 08-11-2009, 04:03 AM
pinotnoir I will try again but nothing... 08-11-2009, 03:50 PM
rulemaker Normal mode is easy goin' and... 08-11-2009, 06:26 AM
heffner Finally cleared it after 50... 08-12-2009, 03:56 AM
Razghul I killed him in the end with... 08-14-2009, 07:59 AM
Iceorbz 3 Times down so far, got a... 08-14-2009, 08:52 AM
Lyonheart I have heroic on farm! The... 08-14-2009, 12:12 PM
Raskaz Today has been the second... 08-15-2009, 05:47 PM
Niley well, today i decided to go... 08-16-2009, 03:00 PM
Raskaz Tbh with your gear I am not... 08-16-2009, 03:17 PM
Greythan Wow, way to take a giant crap... 08-16-2009, 09:45 PM
Dorffo I doubt Niley was trying to... 08-17-2009, 01:23 AM
pinotnoir Gear makes a huge difference.... 08-17-2009, 03:09 AM
Niley I hope you do realize that... 08-17-2009, 07:17 AM
Whowantstoknow Up to a certain point gear... 08-17-2009, 08:28 AM
Klesh 3rd phase of the black knight... 08-17-2009, 09:56 AM
Niley ok on that note, im going to... 08-17-2009, 10:23 AM
Whowantstoknow It's one of the few heroic... 08-17-2009, 02:22 PM
pinotnoir Gear makes a huge difference... 08-17-2009, 08:30 PM
Niley edit, actually nvm, no matter... 08-18-2009, 09:01 AM
puppychow the more shamans you have the... 08-17-2009, 02:59 PM
Malekyth By default, I'm going to... 08-17-2009, 04:16 PM
Greythan Gear makes a huge difference.... 08-17-2009, 09:29 PM
Prega In heroic mode this instance... 08-18-2009, 03:45 AM
king.pa Same thing here !!! When... 08-25-2009, 01:10 PM
Greythan That rogues melee AE is... 08-18-2009, 08:48 AM
Greythan Niley, If you'd limited... 08-18-2009, 10:38 AM
Niley if you really want to... 08-18-2009, 04:06 PM
Lyonheart Heres the simple facts. 1.... 08-18-2009, 04:40 PM
Klesh l2cleanse :D 08-18-2009, 04:40 PM
pinotnoir I dont know whats more sad. ... 08-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Niley Obviously i was wearing tier... 08-18-2009, 06:52 PM
pinotnoir When you said t6 and t4 I... 08-18-2009, 07:19 PM
outdrsyguy1 I've just started clearing... 08-18-2009, 07:13 PM
Multibocks Try it with 23k health on... 08-18-2009, 04:29 PM
Niley I was trying to do the... 08-18-2009, 05:14 PM
Dorffo ^^ It really seems silly... 08-18-2009, 05:19 PM
Greythan Group composition is a large... 08-19-2009, 01:31 AM
heffner Adding in the Purge and the... 08-19-2009, 04:09 AM
rulemaker I agree - Gear makes a huge... 08-19-2009, 05:04 AM
puppychow You are actually better off... 08-19-2009, 12:41 PM
outdrsyguy1 I thought my druid healer... 08-19-2009, 04:52 PM
Multibocks You have to enable "click... 08-19-2009, 06:39 PM
pinotnoir OMG Thank you for that piece... 08-20-2009, 01:29 AM
outdrsyguy1 thats awesome! it works... 08-20-2009, 03:07 AM
Greythan Eadric's hammer. I'm... 08-19-2009, 01:17 PM
Klesh If you cleanse the debuff,... 08-19-2009, 02:23 PM
offive And if you kill him with his... 08-19-2009, 04:24 PM
Trevski Oh, the lovely Heroic Trial... 08-19-2009, 04:54 PM
Greythan lol, I just realized how I... 08-19-2009, 07:29 PM
heffner Ya, I like the click to... 08-20-2009, 03:30 AM
outdrsyguy1 I don't ever try and dps in... 08-21-2009, 12:49 PM
Multibocks So I didnt know this, but... 08-22-2009, 12:51 AM
Greythan Yeah, I "avoid" Eadric's AE... 08-22-2009, 01:57 AM
Multibocks Ok this is lame after much... 08-22-2009, 09:02 PM
Whowantstoknow Doubt it: sounds to me like... 08-23-2009, 08:18 PM
Multibocks Actually it seems you must... 08-23-2009, 11:08 PM
Reglar If Phase 2 is a problem,... 08-23-2009, 11:22 PM
Multibocks The one I felt the was the... 08-24-2009, 01:21 AM
outdrsyguy1 Multibocks, not sure what... 08-24-2009, 02:48 AM
Multibocks Heroic, I havent done regular... 08-24-2009, 03:32 AM
Reglar I use pally tank, 3 ele... 08-24-2009, 01:35 PM
Multibocks The problem I find is if I... 08-24-2009, 01:52 PM
Malekyth I get that too, usually if a... 08-24-2009, 02:57 PM
Multibocks Ya know I dont think I have... 08-24-2009, 03:02 PM
Greythan In regular (haven't even... 08-24-2009, 06:16 PM
Multibocks I beat paletress first try.... 08-24-2009, 07:25 PM
Multibocks I just died on my tank with... 08-24-2009, 07:48 PM
Multibocks grrr fire elementals did... 08-24-2009, 07:55 PM
Multibocks Yes he s dead! edit: sorry... 08-24-2009, 07:59 PM
outdrsyguy1 here's a trick for you. If... 08-25-2009, 02:33 PM
Malekyth I found that out last night.... 08-25-2009, 02:56 PM
Multibocks Does it reset that goddamn... 08-25-2009, 03:47 PM
outdrsyguy1 I hate paletress, total... 08-25-2009, 03:39 PM
Multibocks I out dps'd the HoT =) GOGO... 08-25-2009, 03:46 PM
Multibocks Took this guy out on second... 08-25-2009, 05:46 PM
Lyonheart New Tips for H ToC 08-26-2009, 05:23 PM
Malekyth Interesting ... I didn't know... 08-26-2009, 06:12 PM
Multibocks I found out if you zone only... 08-26-2009, 06:14 PM
Lyonheart WOOT! i will try this 08-26-2009, 07:18 PM
Multibocks Ooh didnt even notice that... 08-26-2009, 06:13 PM
Stabface I'm not sure if it's possible... 08-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Stabface I finally got around to... 09-11-2009, 06:58 PM
Multibocks lol nice, I believe you... 08-28-2009, 03:22 PM
Multibocks Blue post today saying that... 08-31-2009, 07:23 PM
Gares I think I need to learn how... 09-01-2009, 01:07 AM
outdrsyguy1 ironically, i got the axe the... 09-01-2009, 07:28 PM
Baltyre My quick-and-dirty video of... 09-03-2009, 05:57 PM
The Rupt Brothers Haven't played much of late... 09-09-2009, 05:16 AM
Malekyth Speaking of Eadric (wrong... 09-09-2009, 04:32 PM
Greythan Male, just make sure your "1"... 09-09-2009, 04:59 PM
Malekyth It isn't. I'm doing the FTL... 09-09-2009, 09:37 PM
Volch0k Finally did it! Had some help... 09-13-2009, 07:24 PM
olipcs or make an 'FTL-overwrite'... 09-14-2009, 03:32 AM
Multibocks I tried regular of ToC on my... 09-15-2009, 11:33 AM
Malekyth You're not being actively... 09-15-2009, 02:13 PM
Altsoba They are stunnable and maybe... 09-16-2009, 09:21 AM
Multibocks Yes he is stunnable, but he... 09-16-2009, 10:27 AM
Multibocks Honestly I cant think of a... 09-15-2009, 08:16 PM
Pocalypse I hate this buggy instance. ... 09-16-2009, 12:33 PM
Pocalypse And more bugs, although this... 09-17-2009, 02:28 AM
Volch0k So, I was doing a couple... 09-17-2009, 08:55 AM
Pocalypse If that happens again, try... 09-17-2009, 03:04 PM
Volch0k Just forgot to mention, i did... 09-17-2009, 08:00 PM
Multibocks LOL you are having more... 09-17-2009, 10:10 AM
bartholomeo after reading this whole... 09-19-2009, 09:42 AM
bartholomeo so, i did this for a few... 09-19-2009, 04:20 PM
Bigfish This instance is very much a... 09-19-2009, 04:29 PM
Phanes Just zone in and start the... 09-24-2009, 04:11 PM
Pocalypse They added an option to skip... 09-24-2009, 07:08 PM
suprafro The "skip pleasentries"... 09-25-2009, 11:36 AM
Phanes Yeah I just noticed that... 09-25-2009, 12:43 PM
Greythan Yeah, I've beat it twice in... 09-25-2009, 05:13 PM
Rocky Rhode Couple of questions regarding... 09-25-2009, 05:50 PM
Multibocks He makes them explode after a... 09-25-2009, 07:15 PM
Eggy What I normaly do is just... 09-25-2009, 07:50 PM
Saoul The strat i found working... 09-26-2009, 03:09 AM
SoulSeekerUSA For some reason when my 4... 09-27-2009, 12:06 AM
BobGnarly Are you running a focus... 09-28-2009, 04:07 AM
Coyote Jousting was hell to learn... 09-30-2009, 03:55 AM
Volch0k The biggest mistake i made,... 09-30-2009, 06:05 AM
Hurricane This is for TOC normal and... 09-30-2009, 08:35 AM
Greythan Follow the jimbobob's... 09-30-2009, 08:51 AM
Hurricane What the hell is wrong with... 09-30-2009, 08:54 AM
BobGnarly I tried a lot of cute... 10-04-2009, 02:17 PM
Eggy Pretty important to remove... 10-04-2009, 07:09 PM
BobGnarly For sure, I just meant I'm... 10-05-2009, 02:58 AM
Eggy Paltress is pretty easy if... 10-05-2009, 07:49 PM
Bigfish Paletress is an unholy bitch,... 10-06-2009, 01:27 PM
Day Here is my strat I use on... 10-06-2009, 02:52 PM
offive Something I just started... 10-06-2009, 11:22 AM
Fuzzyboy What worked for me on heroic:... 10-07-2009, 05:34 PM
Hurricane Why did you walk forward with... 10-08-2009, 06:01 AM
Fuzzyboy Well, my DBM said to move (i... 10-08-2009, 11:24 AM
Bigfish I officially hate this... 10-08-2009, 08:05 PM
Catamer I totally agree with this,... 10-16-2009, 08:52 PM
Volch0k I know what you are talking... 10-16-2009, 10:04 PM
Gares I just broke my mouse on this... 10-09-2009, 02:56 PM
BobGnarly Ya, the healer must die first... 10-15-2009, 02:24 PM
Schwarz I run a paladin 4 shaman team... 10-15-2009, 05:32 PM
Simulacra I watched your video... 10-28-2009, 06:13 AM
Brutala im absolutely clueless about... 10-15-2009, 01:56 PM
puppychow I re-activated my accounts so... 10-15-2009, 11:12 PM
Bigfish I've got two groups I had to... 10-16-2009, 12:53 AM
Brutala Thank you for that tact!!,... 10-17-2009, 04:12 PM
TheBigBB I managed to clear the... 11-07-2009, 02:08 AM
bartholomeo On phase 2 I drop 4 fire... 11-07-2009, 10:50 AM
Khatovar I didn't really see anything... 11-17-2009, 04:10 AM
bartholomeo Great tip khatovar !! ... 11-24-2009, 11:00 AM
Littleburst I really don't understand how... 01-18-2010, 01:16 PM
Gares Just joust them away from the... 01-18-2010, 05:10 PM
jimbobobb Got it as my daily the other... 01-19-2010, 12:45 AM
Velassra On the first fight, I can do... 01-19-2010, 01:56 AM
jimbobobb You must not be keeping your... 01-19-2010, 03:39 AM
Velassra I'm going to keep at it. I'm... 01-19-2010, 09:42 PM
Targ I believe you have to clear... 01-22-2010, 02:36 PM
pinotnoir I did this again using a... 01-25-2010, 11:59 AM
Zappy All you need is for the party... 01-25-2010, 07:38 PM
puppychow I got this the other day with... 01-27-2010, 07:01 AM
suicidesspyder I gave up after 5 wipes on... 10-29-2010, 12:05 AM
suicidesspyder Ok screw it ill keep trying i... 10-29-2010, 12:16 AM
Coltimar My video is here if that... 10-29-2010, 12:18 AM
suicidesspyder Man heroic im still having... 10-31-2010, 12:21 AM
kate I'm just happy I can finally... 10-31-2010, 01:43 PM
Enoah35 On normal mode its quite... 11-02-2010, 04:47 AM
Prega try my "strategy of center".... 11-02-2010, 04:54 AM
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    I got through to the second Black Knight phase on regular before I looked at the clock and decided I didn't want to get fired for oversleeping. I'll give it another go tonight.

    I don't mind the mounted segment so much now that I've got Argent horsies working in the same Macaroon profile as everyone else (heh, [target=vehicle,exists] solves everyone's problems) ... but I wonder ... why did they leave this in? It's not particularly fun. Each group of three trash rush one character, they don't refresh Defend and don't try to Charge, so you just stand in one spot spamming Thrust until you win with almost no damage taken. This is about as challenging or interesting as listening to the announcer at the beginning.

    The actual bosses I found to be a lot tougher than expected. It's sort of like MgT in some respects -- not a lot of trash to grind through, mostly bosses, excellent loot and harder than your standard level 80 5-mans. I think they struck a nice balance between stepping up the challenge and creating a barrier to players not quite leet enough for the big leagues. That mix wasn't quite right with MgT, but I think it is here.
    MY MINIONS on Lightbringer US: Osaar (80 BE Paladin) - Esaar, Isaar, and Usaar (80 BE Warlocks) - Harmsworth (80 UD Priest)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malekyth View Post

    I don't mind the mounted segment so much now that I've got Argent horsies working in the same Macaroon profile as everyone else (heh, [target=vehicle,exists] solves everyone's problems) .
    can you elaborate on the [ target=vehicle,exists] I'm not familiar with that.

    *edit: after some quick searching found macros of the form:

    /assist focus
    /click [target=vehicle,exists] VehicleMenuBarActionButton3

    does that look correct?
    Last edited by Dorffo : 08-05-2009 at 04:15 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorffo View Post
    can you elaborate on the [ target=vehicle,exists] I'm not familiar with that.

    *edit: after some quick searching found macros of the form:

    /assist focus
    /click [target=vehicle,exists] VehicleMenuBarActionButton3

    does that look correct?
    I'm at work, but that looks right. I run an FTL setup, and put vehicle checks in each of three macros (on my warlocks, Thrust is shared with a DoT castsequence, Shield-Breaker is shared with Shadow Bolt and Charge is shared with Immolate -- just because those have convenient hotkeys already assigned), on both the main and alt keys. I have a thread somewhere on "Argent tourney macros" that describes a Macaroon profile I switched to whenever I mounted up ... I just incorporated those buttons into my primary profile, combining the Argent macros with my regular DoT, tank, etc. ones, so I don't need to switch anymore. It's a bit of work but really convenient.
    MY MINIONS on Lightbringer US: Osaar (80 BE Paladin) - Esaar, Isaar, and Usaar (80 BE Warlocks) - Harmsworth (80 UD Priest)

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    The champions do back off and charge, though. And they always seem to rush the same target at the beginning of the fight, which almost instakills your mount after a few seconds. They also refresh their shields constantly. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I can't even seem to dent these guys. Sitting back against a wall and not using charge doesn't do anywhere near enough damage and there aren't enough mounts to refresh your ride as fast as they can damage you.

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    here's two vids of the jousting / champions in heroic. Very sloppy kills, and horrible videos but maybe it might give someone some ideas

    (spectacular wipe at the end of the first video where i get surprised by green slime)

    edit #2: awesome demonstration of the new Paladin argent defender talent saving the day in the 2nd clip... i'm sleepy

    sorry for lack of 2nd two kills - I wiped twice on the second boss and forgot to hit record on the kill shot. I'll post a vid of the Black Knight tomorrow - was too hectic tonight to get anything worth watching.


    http://www.wegame.com/watch/heroic_Jousting/

    http://www.wegame.com/watch/postwipe_revenge/
    Last edited by Dorffo : 08-07-2009 at 06:44 AM

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    Dorrfo, that was on heroic?
    80 Blood Elf Paladin, 80 Blood Elf Priest,80 Troll Mage, 80 Undead Warlock, 80 Tauren Druid, 80 Undead Rogue
    80 x4 Shaman (Orc x3, Troll)

    Madoran - Horde - PvE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greythan View Post
    Dorrfo, that was on heroic?
    Yeah that was heroic

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