WotLK - Trial of the Champion - (ToC)

[Greythan]

We blew through "normal" in 20 minutes. Its heroic I'm talking about.

[Dorffo]

after working out some jousting kinks I was able to do normal a couple times fairly smoothly and upgraded some tank boots even, yay! Haven't tried heroic version yet though (was sooooo laggy last night).

had no issues with the bosses after the champs - though the first time I ran into the end guy is was a very messy kill.

[offive]

I concur on the Hyjal lag last night... I left the Crusaders area pronto. Of course a while later the lovely unable to create instance errors started up.

I am hoping to try the normal 5 man tonight, or sometime this week?

[Lyonheart]

I am struggling with the 3 champs. I place my followers against the wall and assist my tank.. the problem is the 3 champs almost always 3x shield breaker me otw in. How do you over come that/? Also I'm assuming you kill one..then the next? I also seemed to notice that they get a new mount if they fall off? Someone needs to detail exactly how you do it. This seems way harder than some of you are posting, unless I'm missing something. I'm more than geared for the fights btw.

[Malekyth]

I got through to the second Black Knight phase on regular before I looked at the clock and decided I didn't want to get fired for oversleeping. I'll give it another go tonight.

I don't mind the mounted segment so much now that I've got Argent horsies working in the same Macaroon profile as everyone else (heh, [target=vehicle,exists] solves everyone's problems) ... but I wonder ... why did they leave this in? It's not particularly fun. Each group of three trash rush one character, they don't refresh Defend and don't try to Charge, so you just stand in one spot spamming Thrust until you win with almost no damage taken. This is about as challenging or interesting as listening to the announcer at the beginning.

The actual bosses I found to be a lot tougher than expected. It's sort of like MgT in some respects -- not a lot of trash to grind through, mostly bosses, excellent loot and harder than your standard level 80 5-mans. I think they struck a nice balance between stepping up the challenge and creating a barrier to players not quite leet enough for the big leagues. That mix wasn't quite right with MgT, but I think it is here.

[Dorffo]

I don't mind the mounted segment so much now that I've got Argent horsies working in the same Macaroon profile as everyone else (heh, [target=vehicle,exists] solves everyone's problems) .

can you elaborate on the [ target=vehicle,exists] I'm not familiar with that.

*edit: after some quick searching found macros of the form:

/assist focus
/click [target=vehicle,exists] VehicleMenuBarActionButton3

does that look correct?

[Malekyth]

can you elaborate on the [ target=vehicle,exists] I'm not familiar with that.

*edit: after some quick searching found macros of the form:

/assist focus
/click [target=vehicle,exists] VehicleMenuBarActionButton3

does that look correct?

I'm at work, but that looks right. I run an FTL setup, and put vehicle checks in each of three macros (on my warlocks, Thrust is shared with a DoT castsequence, Shield-Breaker is shared with Shadow Bolt and Charge is shared with Immolate -- just because those have convenient hotkeys already assigned), on both the main and alt keys. I have a thread somewhere on "Argent tourney macros" that describes a Macaroon profile I switched to whenever I mounted up ... I just incorporated those buttons into my primary profile, combining the Argent macros with my regular DoT, tank, etc. ones, so I don't need to switch anymore. It's a bit of work but really convenient.

[Meshuggenah]

The champions do back off and charge, though. And they always seem to rush the same target at the beginning of the fight, which almost instakills your mount after a few seconds. They also refresh their shields constantly. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I can't even seem to dent these guys. Sitting back against a wall and not using charge doesn't do anywhere near enough damage and there aren't enough mounts to refresh your ride as fast as they can damage you.

[Dorffo]

here's two vids of the jousting / champions in heroic. Very sloppy kills, and horrible videos but maybe it might give someone some ideas

(spectacular wipe at the end of the first video where i get surprised by green slime)

edit #2: awesome demonstration of the new Paladin argent defender talent saving the day in the 2nd clip... i'm sleepy

sorry for lack of 2nd two kills - I wiped twice on the second boss and forgot to hit record on the kill shot. I'll post a vid of the Black Knight tomorrow - was too hectic tonight to get anything worth watching.


http://www.wegame.com/watch/heroic_Jousting/

http://www.wegame.com/watch/postwipe_revenge/

[Greythan]

Dorrfo, that was on heroic?