Printable View
So, I could use some help with a proper mage spec for 4 mages and 1 priest.
Arcane subtlety is a given, but the rest. Go frost or continue down the arcane tree?
The mages are lvl 28 and take quite a beating at times. Would it help going for frost bite in order to make the kiting a little less punishing? Also, Ice Barrier is pretty tempting in the future.
Please help a lad out :)
Same setup here. Mages x 4, Priest x 1
I went down down the fire tree for the stun at 21 points.
I’m now rolling into arcane points until PoM. I'm unsure what I'll do after that, probably just a few more in each to get more crits or dmg, etc.
Typical pull = just bubble my main mage, drop Renew in him, and flash heal for the win.
If the mobs are thick, I might also bubble the priest and another top dps mage prior to nuking.
1 priest 4 mage here as well. Full on frost spec. Wouldn't change it for anything. Kill most mobs before they even reach me. This includes bosses. Lvl 26 currently and going fast even with my play time or lack thereof. Frost bite is amazing and now im working on shatter which if i crit on multiple mages pretty much just destroys mobs hp.
all instances done so far for my level without issue. Give it a shot, you wont regret it.
I think it depends if you want to aoe strong or not. I think AE is is king and then you pick which single target nuke you want (frostbolt or fireball) for bosses. I’ve aoe farmed with AE With success (20-25k/hr in stocks). I went 3/3 ele precision for bosses and down arcane for clear casting and AE crit.
IMO it seems like a waste to build around single target clearing with CC with 3+ mages. SM and ZF are ripe for AOE.
things might change after ZF but I’m not there yet to comment.
i originally planned around POM pyro for gibbing red outside instances but I never see anyone (except for running to SM as alliance) so it might be a waste. I love the fire stun spec with pom pyro and blastwave.
I am lvl 44 now with my MMMMP Team and I skilled in the arcane tree till arcane concentration & improved AE (I am using AE 90% of the time). I am not sure what is finally the ultimate best way to spend my other points. But i decided for going deeper in fire, at least while leveling.
Blast wave is nice additional to my AE and my fire spells (fireball, fire blast, pyro as initial) are pretty strong against bosses. Maybe when the trashmobs are getting more life, dealing more dmg and so on, i might swap into a deeper arcane spec or test out frost.
But this situation still not happend right now. Things running very smooth (and simple).
the 6 second stun on rotation from blastwave sounds tempting!Quote:
Originally Posted by Biomasse
Did anyone clear BRD with 4 mages? Emperor Thaurissan seem to be really hard since he enrages and becomes spell immune
I’d like to know this too, but if ironfoe drops it wouldn’t even matter lol. No rogue or warrior to take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madsage
hows your team going? Still in frost?Quote:
Originally Posted by Void
Yes still full frost spec. Level 29 now. Cleared BFD until 27 now working on RFK until 32-33. Maxed out shatter talent which is really nice. So far have not had any issues. When mobs are 1 level below mine i can gather a couple packs and aoe them down with arc explosion which does make clearing a bit faster. Wish i had more time to play, certainly interested to see if this can be done in end dungeons. All good thus far though!
Mind to share some Talent Tree Screenshots
can take point out of improved blizzard. working on maxing ice shards then elemental precision next.
https://i1230.photobucket.com/albums...psyhe888hm.jpg
Got to level 30 and went to SM: Graveyard. Was able to pull packs of 5-8 mobs and aoe down. Went fairly quick as i am now lvl 32 and working on SM: Library. New rank of frost bolt makes quick work of these 34-36 elites. As of now team is still very strong with frost spec.
Going down the frost line myself with my 2xPally 3xMage team. Probably going to respec today as the 3/3 imp blizzard spec I went with isn't working out very well. In hindsight I'm not doing much kiting at this point so it sounds like I might be better off going with Arcane Explosion and maybe even picking up blastwave. Kiting logistics are a challenge for me with multiboxing, but I suppose some veterans may be better at using Blizzard on round robin and rotating Frost Novas, etc. In stocks my tank is getting punished before I can burn down and I'm having major threat issues. He's well geared but being all Frost with no threat mitigation isn't working out very well Luckily we get Salv at 26!
Interested to hear how other specs are working out and where I might be able to put my points to avoid the high costs of respeccing a whole team!
I have one of each spec, arcane, fire, and frost. I have to say the fire mage is the most impressive. The stun from the 1st row fire talent is very useful and seems to proc on Flamestrike alot. I don't like Pyroblast however, because I can't find a use for it. Stuff usually dies before I can get one off, and it was too complicated to add that and Frostbolt into the the same cast sequence macro.
What I do is Priest Shield and Renew my Pally, run around collecting mobs, hitting each mob to gain threat. Once I start taking too much damage I have my team run in and the Priest spam heals me, while the Mages cast Flamestrike into repeating Arcane Explosion's. Things die before they have a chance to react, and like I said some of them even get stunned from the Flamestrike. I can only imagine how it would be with all 3 of my Mages as fire.
ice barrier sounds pretty big for an all caster groupQuote:
Originally Posted by Battleshrimp
I'm curious how the people leveling MMMMP are doing instances. Big aoe pulls? Or small aoe pulls?
Wondering the same thing; currently struggling with 4 raptors at a time in WC at level 19Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercbeast
Currently lvl 36 and aoeing down 6-10 mobs at a time. Mostly limited on how many i can pull before i get stunned/dazed.
If i had a good way to pull more I'm sure i could find a way to kill them.
So far still very good team. No limitations. Also very fun to 1 tap alliance outside SM as well. Managed to poly 4 people and take them all down without taking any damage(they weren't afk!!)
I do miss my warriors though. Both teams have their perks
I have 2 speced frost and one fire. My fire mage hits alot harder in single target but he is also the first one oom. But like someone else said 90% of my damage is from AE. I feel it kills way faster than blizzard even with having to drink so much longer. I speced improved blizzard but am thinking of changing to respec full arcane with just a little in frost.
I am in Zf,currently near lv 46. All my pulls when having no cds are usual 4-6 mobs (The Sm cath were 5-10 in comparison). When i have arcane power ready and presence of mind, I can usually pull around 8.
Make sure to utilize nova to get em round up roughly. Tried frost, but requires too much work for too little reward. Might work in Brd for farming tho.
Full arcane is so much easier due to bit extra crit, mana.
I'm currently up to improved AE on my mages but I'm wondering whether getting improved CS for even easier pulling of ranged mobs is worth it? If not I guess ill spec into fire to help with boss single target.
I didn't go for imp cs as the mobs will always come to you if you cs them on cast. But if you feel that it will make it easier for you,then by all means go for it. For pve and pvp specc, I'll go with with imp cs 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemo