Those multiboxers who don't farm, how do they even pay for their multiple subscriptions? :D
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-MiRai
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Those multiboxers who don't farm, how do they even pay for their multiple subscriptions? :D
Broken off from another thread.
-MiRai
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Originally Posted by Radical Redemption
i think its called a job, and live in moms basement (JK to be fair £50 is not a lot if you don't drink/smoke or stuff i know people at work that spends double what in a week on drink/cigs)
I broke your post off from the farming thread since it changes the discussion quite a bit.
Now, I'm not sure if your question is meant to be tongue-in-cheek, or if this is a serious question, but $45/60/75/90 a month isn't a whole lot of money for someone with a standard amount of income, especially since multiboxers have been paying for their subscriptions out-of-pocket for the decade prior to the WoW Token even existing, although plenty of people still pay for them without tokens (including myself).
Certainly some people can't with certain obligations and restricted incomes couldn't afford to multibox, but then, they probably don't have the necessary computer hardware either. Kids without jobs may also find it difficult.
If you break it down, it's around $25 per week, or approximately $3.50 per day. That's a takeaway coffee per day. So, if you can afford to buy takeaway coffee, rather than instant or using the free coffee machine at work, or that bottled water, rather than from the tap, or even other things, like buying your lunch at work, rather than taking sandwiches or leftovers or something from home, then chances are, you can probably afford subscriptions for multiboxing, with an adjustment here or there.
For some like my nephew he is married he has to sneak the money. He does things like say his haircut cost $40 when its a $12 barber cut. Then uses that money to pay for video games.
Doesn't matter how little it costs, its video games so his wife wont let him spend much on it.
I don't blow my money on clubbing, starbucks, haircuts, premium shampoo, or 250 cable channels I never watch. I paid extra on my car so it's been paid off for a while, and I don't keep a house payment's worth of organic, twice-rinsed, gently-picked, hand-washed vegetables. ;) It's all about the choices.
I 20-box when I'm not too busy with real life, and can pay for them all on a decent salary.
Like Ugh, I am cheap when it comes to the things I don't need. I have a mortgage, contribute to RRSP and TFSA (Canadian) and not much else.
Tokens have helped, but honestly it's more time-efficient for me to just work another freelance gig for or do some overtime at work than farm for 20 hours a week to get the same value in wow gold :)
That being said.. I do spend my gold on pretty much only tokens, so when I have the gold available, I buy them in bulk.. why not :)
I seem to be in the same boat as most people.
I have decent (not amazing by any standard) income, but my expenses are not massively high even if I am currently the sole bread winner in the house hold with my fiance staying home with the kid, so I'm left with a bit of disposable income at the end of the month to spend on multiboxing. As long as there are no massive unexpected expenses, I'm fine paying for my accounts with real life money.
I did farm gold previously, but I have limited time to play so I'd rather spend it playing rather than farming although I do do it every now and then while watching a movie or when it's just completely broken like at the opening of Antorus. All the gold goes towards tokens and some ingame goodies like mounts.
I really don't see how people tend to believe multiboxing is so expensive. 5 accounts, which is still the most common amount I believe, is very easy to afford for anyone with a half-way decent job in the western world. At the most expensive option it would be 65€ a month... That's like buying one console game per month. Or a meal for 2 at an OK restaurant. Or a gym subscription and supplements for a month... Not to mention quite a lot of people would not blink an eye at spending that on a night out drinking at a bar.
i have a pretty good job, I have plenty of gold to buy tokens but I don't I buy 1 year game time sub from a friend of mine for around 100.00, why because I can =) Its all about choices and what you love to do I love going to the gym , meal prep, working on my yard and and multibox , I meal prep every Sunday for lunch and dinner, don't spend my money on stuff I do not need , CHOICES once again .
Ps I normally only multibox 3 now boxing 5 accounts
I am 41 and been retired for 5 years now and more than anything I value is time. More importantly is time spent with family/teen daughter. I always have tried to be the most efficient with my wow time as well. Time spent farming gold is very inefficient especially for tokens. Perceived value from farming gold gives the players a certain feeling that they are getting something for nothing. Nothing could be further from the truth. Most players are young and unaware in the value of time.
I have been fired now for 5 years and I hope you all get fired as well.
Edit: 'Fired' https://www.reddit.com/r/financialindependence/ and https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/
Echoing what Fat Tire said: $75 that the wife budgets for my WoW accounts subscriptions is a drop in the bucket compared to the value of my time.
If I go farm something (Mounts, Instances, Gear, Gold) it's the choice I'm making to spend my time that way. Not at all because I feel compelled to do so in order to exchange in game currency for real life time. It also keeps me from getting burned out. I have enough other hobbies and such going on that burnout is always a real danger for me. Multiboxing is how I relax and decompress.
Time is the most precious resource humans have. Spend it wisely.
I don't know about the other players, but find making gold more fun than the real PvE/PvP stuff. It's not about farming, but doing some tricks of flipping huge amounts of gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebony
I really don't think any of us would play at all if we didn't enjoy farming at least a little. Its pretty big part of the game.
i hate farmingQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnGabriel
and about the cost, 65 euros is like a small monthly bill really
Farming is overated. Imagine you have 10 accounts. You have a job og bills to pay and a life. If you close to perfected farming certain mobs /cough you could get over 100k per hour with some lucky drops. Lets say you press the buttons more casually you could gain that gold in 2 hours or so. Congrats, you now almost have enough to buy a wow token for one of your toons. Now imagine doing the same thing 9 more times / days.. now realize your fingers and hands etc are going to get absolutly smashed by this keypressing...its not feasable for a long periode of time. And its boring.....it will be..... Now on the other side...if you play correctly and use the ah...and have characters on different realms...and just casually scroll you mousewheel up and down every now and then, ..while watching a movie or doing some homework..you can earn multiple amounts of gold compared to farming mobs or herbs or whatever. It does take effort to setup, but worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnGabriel
I pay with my real money, like most I work and value my down time on WoW and so don't want to grind.
I do find it difficult gearing atm though, more lack of knowledge than time though!!
As I've been gearing up a fresh 5 box team I've found doing the weekly world boss in Broken Isles, then doing the weekly Greater Invasion in Argus, then clearing all the quests and world quests in Argus (Random drops of currency to buy 910?ish gear with) then do the Emmisary chests everyday. That seems to be working out pretty well for me as an ultra casual player. Also check the weekly bonus quest in Dalaran, it rotates between Battlegrounds, Mythics, World Quests, and something else that I can't think of atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdsp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53e011qV4jsQuote:
Originally Posted by mrdsp
I make $40/hr working and I am not married, no kids, no smoking nor drinking (not heavily anyway). 5 boxing doesn't kill me. I've been 2 boxing for a bit though as I'm just more comfortable with that being older (slower reflexes).
When I do buy alcohol I'm astonished at how expensive it is. One bottle of Jameson is more than my 2 wow accounts monthly. If I had to buy one of those every Friday for a fix and cigarettes on top of that I'd probably not be multiboxing wow.
Don't get me wrong I love a mixed drink on Friday but I bought my last two bottles of rum and whiskey back in November. I still have the same two bottles. So I don't go nuts on it. Besides, my mixed drinks tend to be very heavy on sugar which is a no-no the older you get.
My subs are WoW, Netflix, Amazon and Phone data plan which is all I need for entertainment.
Only what hurts the most is when you buy expansions, but to be honest, I do not buy games at all. That also safes a tons of money, don't drink, I don't smoke, I dont go out, I dont have time. Married with a kid. $75 is not whole a lot, to get you going with 5 accounts, ones you farm some gold you can even pay for some accounts with tokens so that could leave you to pay for 3 accounts. My thing for example is to start again to box, I have 10 Legion accounts, But start small again with just 5 hunters, Allready bought one expansion to see how it is, so i need 4 more, $200 dollars - boost hunters to 110. My goal is to do 10 accounts, so pay for 5 with tokens and 5 for real money. It's not so bad at all, when you have a steady income, multiboxing i find interesting , not just smashing the buttons but finding mechanics and trying to stay alive....while running through instances- cheers! Some people even Box 3 Accounts.