3 Boxing for a fresh 80 monk

Hello everyone I've been reading for the past few days on doing raf to be able to get a fresh 80 panda monk on release day. I've seen so many combinations for raf my eyes have crossed and I'm lost in the fog. I have an account that I would like to boost my chars with and I've purchased 2 battle chests and 2 copies of wotlk for my raf accounts.

What I'm planning to do is raf from my main account and then again from my raf'd account to another all under my battle.net account. My main question is how many chars will I have to level on each of the raf accounts in order to get enough levels to grant. It's my understanding that my 3rd account will not be able to grant levels to my main account directly but only to it's parent account. So if I level 1 80 on each of the raf accounts and a lvl 40ish char on the first raf account I should be able to have enough grantable levels to reach lvl 80 on a new monk right? It seems to work out in my head but it gest so jumbled up.

So to recap thinking of only the raf accounts a and b I will get an 80 on each and a 40 on the first account grant 40 lvls from the b account to bring the 40 up to 80 and then 40 levels from each of the now 2 80s on a account to my monk. I know the monk will be 10+ when he/she leave the panda zone but is my thinking correct? I want to get this straight before I create my accounts so I dont screw up and do it wrong since I only have one shot at this. I did this once before long long ago when raf was first put into place but all that knowledge has since gone kaput.

Thanks guys I'm sorry to bother you with a question that has most likely been asked a 100x and I'm sure I missed it in the forums but I could really only find ppl doing 1 raf or running 5 boxing I just need info on my specific situation. :P

Well if you plan on leveling with all three toons at once, then you can RaF both of your new accounts from your main account. Then your main account will get all the levels plus all the extra free time.

What was suggested to me was use two existing accounts to RaF two new accounts, then you have total of 4 accounts earning the 300% exp instead of just 3.

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Originally Posted by JohnGabriel

Well if you plan on leveling with all three toons at once, then you can RaF both of your new accounts from your main account. Then your main account will get all the levels plus all the extra free time.

What was suggested to me was use two existing accounts to RaF two new accounts, then you have total of 4 accounts earning the 300% exp instead of just 3.

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Well I only have the one account I play regularly and I dont have room for a monk and another char to level with the raf so i have to do with what I have I just want to make sure I can do it with the setup I've got planned. I have to boost the chars because I dont want to level my main acct. I'm not in it to level a bunch of chars I only need 1 monk and the other accounts are throw away. I'm not concerned with mounts, free time, etc. just the lvl 80 monk and the fastest way to get it with my setup.

If you have a level 85 main character then I would do it with just one new account. Your main account RaFs a new account, and you boost that new account through dungeons using your high level main.

You would need to boost two new characters to level 80 to give you enough level grants for an 80 monk. That would take you maybe two nights to accomplish.

If you do want both 2 new accounts, then have your main RaF both of them. Then boost them through dungeons. You would need to boost one new character on each account to 80.

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Originally Posted by JohnGabriel

If you have a level 85 main character then I would do it with just one new account. Your main account RaFs a new account, and you boost that new account through dungeons using your high level main.

You would need to boost two new characters to level 80 to give you enough level grants for an 80 monk. That would take you maybe two nights to accomplish.

If you do want both 2 new accounts, then have your main RaF both of them. Then boost them through dungeons. You would need to boost one new character on each account to 80.

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It's my understanding that you can't boost a single character with an 85 because of the lvl difference, (raf characters have to be within 5 lvls of each other to gain xp). You have to chain them A>B>C in order to make b and c get the bonus from the 85 leveling them.

Oh yeah, you are correct. Guess another reason to boost with 4, since you will have to have 2 new accounts anyways.

Another thing to think of is if you dont have HGWT then RaF A>B>C will allow you to summon everyone just by first flying your main toon there.

But sorry forgot to answer your original question, instead I ran my mouth off in some weird direction.

Each RaF toon that reaches 80 has 39 levels to give, leveling two would give you 78 levels. If your monk is level 10-12 after reaching sw or org, you'll still have plenty left over.

unless he plays a race other than Panda for Monk, only Panda Monks have to go through the starting area. If he wanted an almost insta 80 Monk, he could make his Monk the best race for monks ( Gnomes ) and lvl that one to lvl 3 in a few minutes!

REMEMBER to lvl the toon your going to grant lvls to to a few exp away from dinging, so when you grant your lvls they will be a quest, or a few kills away from 81

NOTE: JK about Gnomes being the best race.. they are for me though 8)

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Originally Posted by Lyonheart

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REMEMBER to lvl the toon your going to grant lvls to to a few exp away from dinging, so when you grant your lvls they will be a quest, or a few kills away from 81

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I second this. You save so much time only having to kill a few things to hit level 81.

One other point that is kinda cool, if you are boosting before they remove the rep tabards, get them for your characters that you are boosting and main if needed. You can get close, if not all the way to exalted on the 5 races needed to get Ambassador title.

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Originally Posted by ntsaint

It's my understanding that you can't boost a single character with an 85 because of the lvl difference, (raf characters have to be within 5 lvls of each other to gain xp). You have to chain them A>B>C in order to make b and c get the bonus from the 85 leveling them.

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Does this mean you RAF one account, then RAF another account to the previous RAF'd account?

What I have done often when boosting. I have 5 accounts and so I do an Raf from one of these accounts. Then when dungeon boosting I add in an unlinked high level tank which boosts both lowbies to 80. So basically playing 3 account, TANK acct, existing account character acct and RaF character acct.

I don't have RAF, so I can't test it. But per WOWWIKI, it sounds like the lower level toon will still get the extra XP: If both characters are not within 3 levels of each other, only the lower-level character will gain extra experience.

Source: http://www.wowwiki.com/Recruit-A-Friend

Ok what I did was my original plan recruited from my main account and then again from the account I recruited. It's works as I was hoping the 2 raf'd accounts get raf exp and I just dungeon boost em I'm working on my second set of 80s at the moment and my first set came in just over 24 hours played (with zero dungeon quests completed) but I'm pretty sure I'm going to blow that number away this time as I'm doing all the quests this set is at 50 right now 5hours /played. All boosting is being done on a raid geared feral druid. I found in the first set that the 70s were slow up until I got to halls of lightning then it was pretty fast.

A major boost I found also to the high level booster is to get the ilvl 377 crafted pvp gear, it helps quite a bit on a druid with tank spec but in cat form.

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Originally Posted by crowdx

A major boost I found also to the high level booster is to get the ilvl 377 crafted pvp gear, it helps quite a bit on a druid with tank spec but in cat form.

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I've found the only place I need to watch is the room before the final boss in hol if I pull the whole room I need to kite and use bersek or is lights out.. Found that out the hard way >.<

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Originally Posted by promdates

Does this mean you RAF one account, then RAF another account to the previous RAF'd account?

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Correct. Then you have 3 easy options you can run the 2 raf accounts alone, you can run the raf accounts with a new char from your main account, or you can boost with a lvl 85 through dungeons which is what I"m doing.

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Originally Posted by ntsaint

Correct. Then you have 3 easy options you can run the 2 raf accounts alone, you can run the raf accounts with a new char from your main account, or you can boost with a lvl 85 through dungeons which is what I"m doing.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but RaF to RaF also allows the granted levels to cascade between the RaF accounts? i.e. if I grant a character levels on the 2nd RaF from the 3rd RaF it then allows me to grant levels from the 2nd account to the first with the character that was granted llevel from 1 - 80 ?

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Originally Posted by crowdx

Correct me if I am wrong, but RaF to RaF also allows the granted levels to cascade between the RaF accounts? i.e. if I grant a character levels on the 2nd RaF from the 3rd RaF it then allows me to grant levels from the 2nd account to the first with the character that was granted llevel from 1 - 80 ?

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Correct! Levels granted can all be passed upwards although it has a dr of sorts, you need 2 80s per account to grant an 80 on the parent account if we're ONLY thinking about what it would take on the C account you would need 4 80s to equal 1 80 on account A with each 80 passing it's levels upwards c>b>a. This is rounding upwards of course you would need to do a little work on each char receiving because blizzard is stupid with the 39 grantable lvls crap witch seems totally unreasonable and is clearly an inconvenience for the sake on inconvenience.

Also just incase anyone cares my second set of 80s is progressing nicely at lvl 74 in dtk sitting at 13hrs I'm not sure if thats good but either way I'm satisfied :)

How does one boost through instances?

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Originally Posted by demisehi

How does one boost through instances?

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...with a high level character?

My other reply was...

LIKE A BOSS!

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Originally Posted by MiRai

...with a high level character?

My other reply was...

LIKE A BOSS!

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I have 1 account with mains. I then sent a RAF invite to another email I have, and linked them. I purchased Battlechest and Lich King and upgraded RAF account. Can I just run the other toon with my high level account through mass instances and still gain the 300% xp boost?

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Originally Posted by demisehi

I have 1 account with mains. I then sent a RAF invite to another email I have, and linked them. I purchased Battlechest and Lich King and upgraded RAF account. Can I just run the other toon with my high level account through mass instances and still gain the 300% xp boost?

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No with only two accounts they both have to be near the same level. You will have to quest or LFD them.

Don't worry though, while boosting would be fastest you will still level very quickly questing. 3 times faster then questing without RaF.

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Originally Posted by demisehi

I have 1 account with mains. I then sent a RAF invite to another email I have, and linked them. I purchased Battlechest and Lich King and upgraded RAF account. Can I just run the other toon with my high level account through mass instances and still gain the 300% xp boost?

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No. As per the Blizzard FAQ you need to be within 4 levels of each other to receive the benefits.

Group 2 is finished I'm pretty happy with the result of 15h 56 min I was expecting it to be a great deal longer than that as my first group was 24h ish woot for me here is a screeny !!

http://i.imgur.com/ksExb.jpg

I just setup two RAF accounts myself in anticipation of a quick level 80 monk. I've already got two main accounts, and my setup is as follows: Account 1 has a level 85 feral druid, Account 2 is the referring parent account for numbers 3 and 4. I plan to use the unlinked druid to boost the 3 lowbies through instances.

I did this once before when the cap for RAF was at 60. My method at the time was to sit the lowbies (two at that time) at the front of an instance and then pull all the mobs in the instance close enough to get the xp for the lowbies and just aoe them down with the druid. This worked great in RFC, SM, Stratholme, and Ramparts, and it seemed efficient. I've done essentially the same thing boosting a single toon through Sethekk Halls (this instance is nice because it's tiered and overlaps a bit, so you can break the pulls down into a few separate groups). Is that still the fastest and most effective leveling strat in those early levels, or is there something better?

I'm also curious to know what I should do once I hit the 70-80 bracket as my killing speed will slow down with the druid in the WotLK instances. I have no experience in actual multiboxing, and it's not something I plan to do in the future. The two RAF toons will just get moved to one of my two main accounts. I'd prefer to just park the lowbies in a corner and round up a bunch of mobs to kill with the druid for simplicity's sake, but if rolling a true 4-box setup will end up being significantly faster I'm willing to give it a go. Perhaps of note, I will not have a class capable of healing in this setup as mage, warrior, and hunter are the lowbies and the only classes I don't currently have at or above 80. I suppose I could heal with the druid, but he'll be busy getting beat on.

Many thanks in advance for any advice and to the OP for allowing me to piggy back on the thread. I felt it was relevant enough to post here rather than clutter things up with a new post.

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Originally Posted by Baeric

I just setup two RAF accounts myself in anticipation of a quick level 80 monk. I've already got two main accounts, and my setup is as follows: Account 1 has a level 85 feral druid, Account 2 is the referring parent account for numbers 3 and 4. I plan to use the unlinked druid to boost the 3 lowbies through instances.

I did this once before when the cap for RAF was at 60. My method at the time was to sit the lowbies (two at that time) at the front of an instance and then pull all the mobs in the instance close enough to get the xp for the lowbies and just aoe them down with the druid. This worked great in RFC, SM, Stratholme, and Ramparts, and it seemed efficient. I've done essentially the same thing boosting a single toon through Sethekk Halls (this instance is nice because it's tiered and overlaps a bit, so you can break the pulls down into a few separate groups). Is that still the fastest and most effective leveling strat in those early levels, or is there something better?

I'm also curious to know what I should do once I hit the 70-80 bracket as my killing speed will slow down with the druid in the WotLK instances. I have no experience in actual multiboxing, and it's not something I plan to do in the future. The two RAF toons will just get moved to one of my two main accounts. I'd prefer to just park the lowbies in a corner and round up a bunch of mobs to kill with the druid, but if rolling a true 4-box setup will end up being significantly faster I'm willing to give it a go. Perhaps of note, I will not have a class capable of healing in this setup as mage, warrior, and hunter are the lowbies and the only classess I don't currently have at or above 80.

Many thanks in advance for any advice and to the OP for allowing me to piggy back on the thread. I felt it was relevant enough to post here rather than clutter things up with a new post.

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I use a druid for boosting, I have him in ilvl 377 crafted PvP gear for the most part and specced as a tank. From 70 - 80 I believe the key is doing the dungeon quests. Basically I ran each dungeon at my level at least once to do the quests.
Once at 75 I also did the Amphitheater of anguish.

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Originally Posted by Baeric

I just setup two RAF accounts myself in anticipation of a quick level 80 monk. I've already got two main accounts, and my setup is as follows: Account 1 has a level 85 feral druid, Account 2 is the referring parent account for numbers 3 and 4. I plan to use the unlinked druid to boost the 3 lowbies through instances.

I did this once before when the cap for RAF was at 60. My method at the time was to sit the lowbies (two at that time) at the front of an instance and then pull all the mobs in the instance close enough to get the xp for the lowbies and just aoe them down with the druid. This worked great in RFC, SM, Stratholme, and Ramparts, and it seemed efficient. I've done essentially the same thing boosting a single toon through Sethekk Halls (this instance is nice because it's tiered and overlaps a bit, so you can break the pulls down into a few separate groups). Is that still the fastest and most effective leveling strat in those early levels, or is there something better?

I'm also curious to know what I should do once I hit the 70-80 bracket as my killing speed will slow down with the druid in the WotLK instances. I have no experience in actual multiboxing, and it's not something I plan to do in the future. The two RAF toons will just get moved to one of my two main accounts. I'd prefer to just park the lowbies in a corner and round up a bunch of mobs to kill with the druid for simplicity's sake, but if rolling a true 4-box setup will end up being significantly faster I'm willing to give it a go. Perhaps of note, I will not have a class capable of healing in this setup as mage, warrior, and hunter are the lowbies and the only classes I don't currently have at or above 80. I suppose I could heal with the druid, but he'll be busy getting beat on.

Many thanks in advance for any advice and to the OP for allowing me to piggy back on the thread. I felt it was relevant enough to post here rather than clutter things up with a new post.

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I think your plan will work out well, I've found that pulling things back towards the leveling group works out very well as running them along with you (unless you gear them too) often puts them in harms way for things such as aoe plus they can suck enough threat off the pull to get themselves killed just by being there >,< .

Also many instance don't have an exit at the end so you end up running them back anyway and it's easier to actually just make a full trip back and burn the group down and I do this is nearly every instance up to strat. For 70-80 it does slow down a bit but it's not really due to killing speed although that does have a small impact. Like Crowdx I boost with a druid because I think they have the best aoe ability of the tanking classes. I actually started with my dk and he did a fine job as well but I've found the druid is just smoother.

Oh yea 70-80 ANYWAY my advice for 70-80 is pretty simple I'll tell you what I do and know works but I'm sure there are tons of options maybe some are better maybe some are not you just have to try them but I've gotten a pretty good time out of it.

Ok, so YES do EVERY quest they give a huge amount of xp you can get upwards of 450kxp from the quests more of less and thats a large portion of a lvl. Now on my first group from 67-70 I did UK and then I headed for nexus for a bit but I don't recommend this unless you have a summon for the whole group it's a time sink getting there and the instance is a pain in the butt.

A lot of people advocate doing all the instance as they come available for questing reasons but I didn't do that.. the northrend instance I did were 67-72 UK, 72-75, DTK, at 75 I did one run in halls of stone but the quests were not available but since I ran over there I dide one run which was very good xp I'd recommend staying there as it's easier to pull than halls of lightning at least until the quests in HOL open up. 75-78 3/4 I did halls of lighting and then I went back to HOS and finished up the level which is where I took the screen shot with my.


NOTE: I didn't do the 3rd HOS quest you get from bramm it just takes too long and it's really not worth it when you can pull that whole instance it almost the time that one boss takes >.<... Well thats basically it if you need any specific advice for a instance lemme know the instance I did in the order I did them was. DM,STOCKS,SM-GY-CATH-ARMORY,STRAT,SCHOLO,HFC-BF,HFC-SH(i did the heroics of these as well)SETHALL,UK,DTK,HOS,HOL. Pretty simple boring but effective. Take care and GL :P

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Originally Posted by ntsaint

I think your plan will work out well, I've found that pulling things back towards the leveling group works out very well as running them along with you (unless you gear them too) often puts them in harms way for things such as aoe plus they can suck enough threat off the pull to get themselves killed just by being there >,< . Also many instance don't have an exit at the end so you end up running them back anyway and it's easier to actually just make a full trip back and burn the group down and I do this is nearly every instance up to strat. For 70-80 it does slow down a bit but it's not really due to killing speed although that does have a small impact. Like Crowdx I boost with a druid because I think they have the best aoe ability of the tanking classes. I actually started with my dk and he did a fine job as well but I've found the druid is just smoother. Oh yea 70-80 ANYWAY my advice for 70-80 is pretty simple I'll tell you what I do and know works but I'm sure there are tons of options maybe some are better maybe some are not you just have to try them but I've gotten a pretty good time out of it. Ok, so YES do EVERY quest they give a huge amount of xp you can get upwards of 450kxp from the quests more of less and thats a large portion of a lvl. Now on my first group from 67-70 I did UK and then I headed for nexus for a bit but I don't recommend this unless you have a summon for the whole group it's a time sink getting there and the instance is a pain in the butt. A lot of people advocate doing all the instance as they come available for questing reasons but I didn't do that.. the northrend instance I did were 67-72 UK, 72-75, DTK, at 75 I did one run in halls of stone but the quests were not available but since I ran over there I dide one run which was very good xp I'd recommend staying there as it's easier to pull than halls of lightning at least until the quests in HOL open up. 75-78 3/4 I did halls of lighting and then I went back to HOS and finished up the level which is where I took the screen shot with my. NOTE: I didn't do the 3rd HOS quest you get from bramm it just takes too long and it's really not worth it when you can pull that whole instance it almost the time that one boss takes >.<... Well thats basically it if you need any specific advice for a instance lemme know the instance I did in the order I did them was. DM,STOCKS,SM-GY-CATH-ARMORY,STRAT,SCHOLO,HFC-BF,HFC-SH(i did the heroics of these as well)SETHALL,UK,DTK,HOS,HOL. Pretty simple boring but effective. Take care and GL :P

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One point on getting characters around. If you are intending on leveling more than one character I would recommend creating a RaF character at each instance, then use them to summon the rest of the team, i.e. static RaF summons RaF linked account, then log out of the Static RaF and log into the character you are boosting and summon them to the instance. That leaves the high level booster as the only character you need to get to the new instance.

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Originally Posted by crowdx

One point on getting characters around. If you are intending on leveling more than one character I would recommend creating a RaF character at each instance, then use them to summon the rest of the team, i.e. static RaF summons RaF linked account, then log out of the Static RaF and log into the character you are boosting and summon them to the instance. That leaves the high level booster as the only character you need to get to the new instance.

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That might work, but man that sounds like a lot of work . Solid idea if you're willing to make the effort it would deffinately make the process more fluid and painless one trip to each instance is better than 2,3,6,8 times or however many 80s you plan to level.

These threads have been a big help. Just started RaFing a duo of Warriors up. I've gotten them to 40 so far, and man is it easy. It was harder getting from 1-11 then 12-40. I've done a A-> B-> C setup and it's worked great. Just park your dudes, pull a ton of mobs, kill them all, get XP, go onto the next group. It took me about 2.5 hours to get 30 levels without even knowing all that much on how the software I use works.

I enjoy the tips for Northrend. Keep them coming. I imagine the rest of Vanilla and BC won't be too hard. I was curious on which way to take Northrend. I have a 67 druid on my main I may have lead my two warriors once they get to that level, or I may just see if I can find a guildie to instance boost while I have the three pulling behind.

Is instance boosting with a T13 Heroic raid geared 85 better than just having the two RaF go quest?

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Originally Posted by Adornus

These threads have been a big help. Just started RaFing a duo of Warriors up. I've gotten them to 40 so far, and man is it easy. It was harder getting from 1-11 then 12-40. I've done a A-> B-> C setup and it's worked great. Just park your dudes, pull a ton of mobs, kill them all, get XP, go onto the next group. It took me about 2.5 hours to get 30 levels without even knowing all that much on how the software I use works.

I enjoy the tips for Northrend. Keep them coming. I imagine the rest of Vanilla and BC won't be too hard. I was curious on which way to take Northrend. I have a 67 druid on my main I may have lead my two warriors once they get to that level, or I may just see if I can find a guildie to instance boost while I have the three pulling behind.

Is instance boosting with a T13 Heroic raid geared 85 better than just having the two RaF go quest?

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What I find with boosting is that it is very consistent experience, whereas questing often ends up with me getting side tracked

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Originally Posted by Adornus

These threads have been a big help. Just started RaFing a duo of Warriors up. I've gotten them to 40 so far, and man is it easy. It was harder getting from 1-11 then 12-40. I've done a A-> B-> C setup and it's worked great. Just park your dudes, pull a ton of mobs, kill them all, get XP, go onto the next group. It took me about 2.5 hours to get 30 levels without even knowing all that much on how the software I use works.

I enjoy the tips for Northrend. Keep them coming. I imagine the rest of Vanilla and BC won't be too hard. I was curious on which way to take Northrend. I have a 67 druid on my main I may have lead my two warriors once they get to that level, or I may just see if I can find a guildie to instance boost while I have the three pulling behind.

Is instance boosting with a T13 Heroic raid geared 85 better than just having the two RaF go quest?

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Boosting will almost always and I say almost because I don't know everything but to my knowledge I've never seen anyone quest to 80 as fast as I'm boosting but you never know :P questing provides more gold overall tho :P

Well I finished group 3 tonight and was able to better my 15h 52min time here ya go !! :P

http://i.imgur.com/tNage.jpg

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Originally Posted by ntsaint

Boosting will almost always and I say almost because I don't know everything but to my knowledge I've never seen anyone quest to 80 as fast as I'm boosting but you never know :P questing provides more gold overall tho :P

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This is because questing, especially with the changes in Cata to this linear garbage and drips and drabs of quests, requires far too much back and forth travel. Questing might possibly provide more immediate gold, but I always made more overall from boosting by throwing the cloth/decent BOEs/Enchanting Mats on the AH once a day before I logged. That'll be even more the case once AOE looting hits.

So for folk using this AOE spot, did you all stay till 85 or was there a point that the XP was too little to make it worthwhile, e.g. 84 - 85?