So the shammies get buffed in the next patch..
Will they mew pew the dk comp then ? Or will it be a 'fair' battle?
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So the shammies get buffed in the next patch..
Will they mew pew the dk comp then ? Or will it be a 'fair' battle?
Greetingz!
Go check out Kruschpaks 2700 rating in 5s! There's your answer :)
This Week 22 – 0 (100%)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
Season 170 126 – 44 (74%)
Yeah right :P
Either way what 1 (exceptional) player is able to reach is not really a reference for a whole spec.
Well, my high was 1940 rating this season, and up to 2100 MMR. Ive been beating 2500++ rated pvp players in 5s this whole season. So shaman are very viable idd :)
chain Lighting FTW :D
been haveing losts of funs on the ptrs with shammys and the buffs
now just to fram 391 gear (honor gear) in the next av weekend and have some fun
Okej then .. Continue with shamans and forget dk xP
Well the question i have is what you refer to?
Best team to reach most rating in Arena? Or who will win in a 5v5 between them?
There is many aspects to where the teams is good and not, i concider DK beeing very nice overall since you can solo instances (for mount farm like TK etc) and be viable in PvP with many more.
well I love arena and world pvp/bg so something for that :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Emo?
tbh, dk is like easy mode so thats just spamming a button and pew pew..
with the shaman i would be able to do instances also, bcause i still have a paladin leader who can tank the place.
decissions decissions..
you could still do instances with paly + 4dkQuote:
Originally Posted by tanknspanker
Got balls Krush, a big hairy sack. Love it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
Well, the 2 different teams got pros and cons. My 2 cents
Shaman team
Pros
1. Kill someone in 1 GCD
2. Self heal
3. Can cast while moving
4. Spammable CL much?!
Cons:
1. Easy to lockdown
2. Some mana issues
3. Lack of a big defensive CD
Maye add for pros, multi target hex, multi target interupts, with /target arena1 etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
And for cons, easy to pillar hump against.
DKs would also be able to multi target interrupt/strangulate so that not a cons over DKs.Quote:
Originally Posted by valkry
He wasn't doing a comparison, only the pros and cons for the shammy side. Otherwise, dpsing while moving wouldn't be up there either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quiding
Id say hex is more powerfull then DKs interrupts/silencesQuote:
Originally Posted by Quiding
I think strangulate is one of the best abilities in the game. If you glyph it you get 7 seconds of no casting if it interrupts a cast. That is a ridiculous LONG time for a healer not to be able to heal. And if you are good enough to manually strangulate then that's 4 times you can lock out a healer (not counting diminishing returns.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
One thing I'm not sure of is can you trinket out of silence effects?
No you can't. But I think it is a magic affect so can be dispelled by others, not sure on that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
Quote:
Originally Posted by valkry
you can trinket strangulate - I do it all the time.
Nice, I have been proven wrong then :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
Ah ok, still think its awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
The argument is quite simple, DKs are OP in pvp, shammies are not. 4x DK... well, I'll leave the guess up to you lol.
Quick question thou, any DK teams above 2200 rating or even 2000 rating atm?
Mine were, i quit playing though and disbanded team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
I was also 2300+ in 3's.
Talking about right now. There are far more teams around 1800++ rating in 5v5 with 2500 exp in 2s and 3s then there were earlier in the season. So the difficulty is higher now in 5s then it was early in the season
I was 223x up till about a month ago in 5's. RIGHT now? I don't know of anyone. Quad dk is too easy to beat with something like a well played RMPLS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
Play what you like to a lot get bord of deathkights becouse all the one button press gets kinda boring.
Deathkights running off falling off hills getting stuck. ( i love ctm/itw) but useing it all the time get to massey.
Shammys can solo os+3 TK/BT and loads of other raids. 5 man shammys a few av even 5 manned a few bossess in hc's, i love to see what the new gear will let me do.
I just deleted a shit-ton of posts from this thread. It's amazing how this thread went way off topic and tried
to justify cheating and exploiting the system as if it's something we allow.
I realize it's extremely difficult to not post stuff about cheating and exploiting but... try to control yourselves.
http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27775Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRai
sorry but what did DK and shaman get in 4.3 ? exactly.
mmo-champion blocked for me at work.
Shaman got a few buffs, dks got nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by remanz
Shamans get dmg boosted, which is totaly not needed. Dmg is fine PvP wise, but we're lacking defensive CDs big time!
Been like this since tbc? :) shamans dying? Lets buff damage!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
DK gets some minor buffs to UH. So nothing for us boxers so to speak.
I do believe that the comps are hard to compare and specially not against each other, in a 4v4 arena between 4 dks and 4 shamans i bet my money on the DKs.
For overall gameplay and fun, i actually don't think there is any difference. Both teams are viable for most things in game, just in different approaches.
It should be more or less the same. The 3 main things that change for shamans is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nikita
- flametongue weapon imbue is changed from 747 spellpower (about 1K if talented) to 5% overall spell damage (7% if talented) increase. It means that shamans will scale much better with gear, but for some it might mean that certain spells hit less hard initially. Some spells will benefit more from it than others, since spells have different individual scaling factors.
- shamanism got increased from 32% to 36% (lb, lvb and chain lightning benefit 4% extra from spell power)
- cooldown on chain lightning got removed
(besides this EQ got buffed and fire nova will no longer increase duration of flame shock)
It basically all means that ele shamans scale much better than before with gear, at the cost of a 1k spell power loss. It means that for nuke phases, the orc racial (updated into a flat spell power increase) + engineering glove tinker becomes a really strong cooldown.
Might also be worth it for 5v5 to look into acquiring 2 pieces of T13 raid gear ... the bonus is basically 2000 mastery everytime you pop elemental mastery. You will obviously lose the 4p pvp gear set bonus, but this extra nuke sounds like incredible to me if you can stack it. Downside is that you can no longer acquire set pieces from valor points, they are raid drops (lfr).
DKs did get the atk pwr buff buff :P
ie. if you run with a pally healer who buffs might, you now get +20% to atk pwr rather than just +10%... not an insignificant boost.
Zenga is your picture some new internet meme that I don't know about?
Is this nerf to Howling Blast going live?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noids
"Howling Blast (frost talent/skill) - This has now been nerfed a little it now scales from 44% for single targets and 22% AOE of attack power, down from 48% and 24% respectively."
This pretty much nullifies the dmg increase from Blessing of Might. Other skills still get a slight boost in dmg but Howling Blast is teh sh*t in pvp.
Figured I would stop hiding my real identity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Multibocks
That is you? Here I thought you were like 18
Edit: I don't mean that as a negative thing
When I wear my hotpants and makeup during the weekends I feel 18.
The rest of the week I'm 33.