Full Tier 9 in 8 days, 12 days for fresh 80s

When patch 3.3 hits, every instance other than Icecrown Citadel will drop www.wowhead.com/?item=Emblem of Triumph

To get the full 10 man set of T9 is 210 www.wowhead.com/?item=Emblem of Triumph

Before you freak out, check out the numbers below, it's easier than you think.

My plan for heroic farming for patch 3.3

Culling of Stratholme - 4 badges (5 for timed)
Drak'Tharon Keep - 4 badges
Gundrak - 5 badges
Nexus - 5 badges
Utgarde Keep - 3 badges
Violet Hold - 3 badges
Trial of the Champion - 3 badges

27 badges For all listed here
19 badges Without Toc or Gundrak


210 www.wowhead.com/?item=Emblem of Triumph for _ of Conquest Tier 9

210 divided by 27 badges puts you at 8 days to full T9
210 divided by 19 badges puts you at 12 days to full T9 without ToC or Gundrak

So 12 or 8 days, easily run instances for even new teams you'll be able to literally skip 2 tiers of content in gear quality. Not to mention pick up pretty tasty relics and after the 8 or 12 days, you'll be able to keep farming for crusader orbs for the crafted offsets. Or even Furious PvP gear.

If you can clear UK or DTK, you can clear any of these instances with the exception of Gundrak or ToC may give you a few issues, but you should be able to clear some of the easier bosses in Gundrak. So worst case, 12 days to full team of T9? Yes please, do want.

Have you seen this yet? (posted on MMO champ today)

Continuing to use the Random Heroic Dungeon option within that same day to complete dungeons will award you with two Emblems of Triumph each time in addition to those dropped in the instances. The random option can also select Heroic dungeons to which you may already be saved, so you can technically do every Heroic dungeon more than once in a day by continuing to use this option.

Assuming no travel time (3.3 LFG system instant port to instances)... and FLYING through these heroics...

I'm getting about 3.5 hours to clear all of these w/o interruption. Or 26 - 40 hours of playing to complete the task.

That's a full time job man!

throw in UP since yer there doing UK 4 more emblems=win!

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Originally Posted by suprafro

Have you seen this yet? (posted on MMO champ today)

Continuing to use the Random Heroic Dungeon option within that same day to complete dungeons will award you with two Emblems of Triumph each time in addition to those dropped in the instances. The random option can also select Heroic dungeons to which you may already be saved, so you can technically do every Heroic dungeon more than once in a day by continuing to use this option.

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I did see that, looks really awesome. I'm unsure of how the random dungeon function would work for us that want all 5 of our toons in the same random dungeon. I know it resets and gives you another random dungeon every 15 minutes. So essentially you could try a random, if it's not one you can do, go do a regular heroic run, or wait 15 minutes, try the random again. and just keep doing this over and over. Assuming it works this way you'll be able to farm up T9 just as fast as you want to.

If you've been 80 for a while, you probably already have some Triumph badges if you've been doing the heroic daily, this will also help shorten the time frame.

Are you able to purchase tokens for the full set? I hadn't looked but I assumed only the Helm and Chest were available.

If so, I'm pumped.

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Originally Posted by Fursphere

Assuming no travel time (3.3 LFG system instant port to instances)... and FLYING through these heroics...

I'm getting about 3.5 hours to clear all of these w/o interruption. Or 26 - 40 hours of playing to complete the task.

That's a full time job man!

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I agree absolutely that it is. I probably won't run these *every* day, but it's nice to see just how quick it could be done.

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Originally Posted by Feider

Are you able to purchase tokens for the full set? I hadn't looked but I assumed only the Helm and Chest were available.

If so, I'm pumped.

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You can buy all 5 peices from the vendors outside the ToC raid instance, just the regluar 10 man T9 is 210 tokens, if you want the better sets, you'll have to raid ToC25 and ToGC 25 to get trophies + hard mode tokens / drops.

But these numbers are just for the base set.


Here is a link to wowwiki that shows the different sets, I based my numbers of badges off the "of Conquest" sets since they require NO raiding, only heroics:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Tier_9#Sets

i plan to get a mix of T9 and off set items. Also, we will have the frost badge stuff. I need to start min/maxing so i don't waste badges on something I will replace with frost.

There are about 3-4 bosses that i can solo ( 7 box atm ) that are part of the weekly raid quest ( 10 frost badges). When it is not one I can solo, I will pug it with every member of my team when i can.

Im going to do 3 new 5 mans, and than probably quit boxing until cata. Whats the point of gearing for just leveling? There will be nothing else to use all this gear for after 3.3.
Also that gear will not help at all in cata(coming from someone who had 4x tier 6 and one best in slot sunwell geared toons when wotlk released that i replaced it all in 2 weeks after it came out.)

Just think of it this way man. Gear your toons then show off. Someone sees you lvl 79 then next day your 80 they say good job. Then a week later all your toons are better geared then his lol. Also, if your in a regular guild like i am on alliance. I could all gear score every person in my guild with all 14 of my alliance toons. Lol i think they would kick some out so they wouldnt see me 1-14. SS coming if i do it lol.

It really depends on where you are at in gear now, and where you want to be.

I've not heard of Cataclysm Beta yet, so I'm going to assume it will be near (Oct/Nov) of next year.
That could be completely wrong, but my guess is Cataclysm for the Christmas sales.

A brand new team to 80th.
Getting full T9 (set pieces anyway), in a couple of weeks of heroics.
That's a pretty huge upgrade, and will make Cataclysm leveling a ton easier.

If you're already in the best (heroic/honor) gear available.
Not mentioning arena/raid gear even, Cataclysm will already be relatively easy.
They have to balance things for fresh 80's with no gear.

Thanks for the post, Super.
I've got teams coming up still ).

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Originally Posted by Niley

Im going to do 3 new 5 mans, and than probably quit boxing until cata. Whats the point of gearing for just leveling? There will be nothing else to use all this gear for after 3.3.
Also that gear will not help at all in cata(coming from someone who had 4x tier 6 and one best in slot sunwell geared toons when wotlk released that i replaced it all in 2 weeks after it came out.)

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There will only be 5 more levels in Cata. I have a feeling that T10ish gear will be good until T11 ( unless they over inflate the lvl 81+ greens and blue stats )

Also, after i gear my main team up, I want to raid on one of my guys and see LK die!

In Cataclysm they're supposed to change a lot of mechanics.
We'll want different stats on gear.
Tanks will not need any defense, they'll be crit capped from talents alone.

I'd imagine a lot of the WotLK gear won't be itemized terribly well for changes in Cataclysm.
Still it should be decent gear, until you acquire better Cataclysm gear.

I for one am looking forward to getting my Furious gear from this, shouldn't take long at all :)

However, I dont see the need for more/better PVE gear at all since I dont plan on raiding at all, and all the 5 mans is allready on farm...

Does anyone know when 3.3 is suppose to hit the shelves?(so to speak)

with how fast the PTR is progressing i'd estimate about another month MAYBE before 3.3. My shamans should be 4/5 t9 maybe even 5/5 and druids 3/5 t9 by then. I won't have much farming to do. Only good thing will be the instances at that point to keep me entertained.

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Originally Posted by Niley

Whats the point of gearing for just leveling?

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Some of us enjoy trying different setups in the dungeons, seeing how far we can go with all DPS, or other crazy things. If you are multiboxing just to have gear to level up in the next expansion, what is the point of playing the game at all?


I for one plan to gear my 5 toons out so I can do 10mans with friends / Fursphere (he is my 5 best friends XD)

Also, it's cheaper to play Wow than do smack.. think about it!!

EDIT: Oh and i forgot, its fun boxing 25mans and seeing how long you can get away with it without anyone noticing XD My new 5man pvE team has all different names and should be extremely sneaky for those days when you just feel like rolling on any gear you want 2-5x XD thank the blizzard gods for Soulbound 2h trade benefits =)

Having a boomkin, holy priest, warlock and elemental shaman is going to ensure any caster gear is MINE!! lol Druids rolling on cloth? yes pls. Elemental rolling on leahter? yes pls. Shaman rolling on... dont be stupid, we all know theres no elemental gear out there.

Don't forget about the weekly raid quests. Thats like 10 badges? Or is it a mix of frost and triumph? Anyway, thanks for this great info! Ill probably run my shaman through to get the furious pieces, and my mixed team to get T9.

Overgearing can make some encounters that you did before more fun, because you just pwn everything... I bet i could 5 man naxx by now, and itll get easier as i get T9...

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Originally Posted by Svpernova09

You can buy all 5 peices from the vendors outside the ToC raid instance

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crap i just bought the 45 emblem non tier one... i wish id have read this post when i opened it and not played a little before i looked at it.

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Originally Posted by Mokoi

Some of us enjoy trying different setups in the dungeons, seeing how far we can go with all DPS, or other crazy things. If you are multiboxing just to have gear to level up in the next expansion, what is the point of playing the game at all?

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I think he's agreeing with me o.O
Having full t9 will not make it easier, it will be the same, everything dies in one shot even if I'm naked.
Somone else said that t10 gear will last till 85, sure it will, i will have full set on my shaman within 2 or 3 weeks of 3.3 release, but we are talking here about tier 9, which will be much more behind(even stats get all changed come cataclysm)

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Originally Posted by Niley

Im going to do 3 new 5 mans, and than probably quit boxing until cata. Whats the point of gearing for just leveling? There will be nothing else to use all this gear for after 3.3.
Also that gear will not help at all in cata(coming from someone who had 4x tier 6 and one best in slot sunwell geared toons when wotlk released that i replaced it all in 2 weeks after it came out.)

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You'll always end up replacing your gear sooner or later. New gear might enable you to do stuff you haven't done before. Like 10-man instances, or 25-man instances with 1 or 2 other boxers. Basically the better your gear, the fewer people needed (except some encounters due to mechanics etc.). The point of gearing up is the same as it has always been - you don't need conquest gear to do HToC either, so whats the point of getting it? Hopefully it's because you have fun playing the game :-)

In any event, there's always PvP - plenty of challenge for you there, no worries ;-)

Niley, if we should think that way, and putting ur statement on the tip of the iceberg, we migh as well say nothing in wotlk or even before that is usefull...

I agree, when it's this easy, it can seem what u do is without meaning, but I find it fun anyway.

My point beeing, farming emblems of heroism in the start was a waste, because you knew sooner or later you would replace it - I still did it, because i find it fun.

I already have full t9/9.5 on all of my shamans, short of doing the 5 man quest (once ICC is released)I really cant see a reason to keep them active any longer( Also full relentless... well if i reactivate and buy the legs ). I know niley trashed all of the heroics in his sunwell gear so I wouldn't say it was completely useless, many of us who had sunwell stuff continued to wear it into naxxramas( some of it ). Frankly if the difficulty or the amount of content doesnt increase in cata I see no reason to reactivate at all, I'll be waiting to buy cata until I hear some first hand accounts of the situation though. This game is no longer an rpg, its an action adventure console game with a large communication system ... MMOAV if you will.

Until then, I'll be playing EQ as it has enough depth and challenge in its pve content to keep me interested. The only challenge to WoW is pvp, but any person on person competition will always be challenging, regardless of game so if i want that I'll find a more balanced game for it( it wont be an mmo ).

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Originally Posted by mrmcgee21

I already have full t9/9.5 on all of my shamans, short of doing the 5 man quest (once ICC is released)I really cant see a reason to keep them active any longer( Also full relentless... well if i reactivate and buy the legs ). I know niley trashed all of the heroics in his sunwell gear so I wouldn't say it was completely useless, many of us who had sunwell stuff continued to wear it into naxxramas( some of it ). Frankly if the difficulty or the amount of content doesnt increase in cata I see no reason to reactivate at all, I'll be waiting to buy cata until I hear some first hand accounts of the situation though. This game is no longer an rpg, its an action adventure console game with a large communication system ... MMOAV if you will.

Until then, I'll be playing EQ as it has enough depth and challenge in its pve content to keep me interested. The only challenge to WoW is pvp, but any person on person competition will always be challenging, regardless of game so if i want that I'll find a more balanced game for it( it wont be an mmo ).

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I never really understood the reason of generic challenge as a reason to multibox WoW. I mean, if challenge is what's appealing, why not just get a single player game you can play on insanely-difficult mode and save a lot of time and money?

I multibox WoW in part because I like the game, in part because I like that it's sort of a community and a living world that responds to the action of players. I multibox because it allows me to sidestep a lot of the downsides of WoW (PUG's, waiting time etc.) and still maintain some sort of social tie to the people I know in-game. I also enjoy the configuration and setting up - macros, HKN scripts, adapting my chars, trying out different combinations.

If PvE progress was the only reason I played WoW I think I'd just activate my accounts for one month at the time when new content is released, deactivate after and play something else while waiting for more content.

As much as the game is a grind.



I love it.

New gear excites me, but not as much as watching bosses melt, even if it's stuff I've done over and over. I just smile and laugh at what I can survive since I'm mostly over geared for heroics. To each his / her own IMO.

A little off topic here.
I used to single box raid, so i can be better at multiboxing, that was my goal for years. I've got into us top guild, so i could learn more, get a better grip on my abilities....so once more i can multibox better, this is main reason why I dps'ed on my shaman as my main, and my so called main alt was always my paladin tank.
It has been like that for almost 3 years, until recently....there is nothing left to box on live servers(for me)
I haven't boxed on live for a long time now, Ive been single box raiding on my warlock, shaman and paladin, but i realized my goal was not multiboxing anymore.
In the beggining of wotlk, we had many challenges ahead of us, multiboxing or not, they were there. Boxing brand new heroics was tons of fun, going there with a tank that had 18k hp and not even def capped, shamans with 14k hp and under 1k spl damage.....those are some fond memories for me.
Upgrading gear back then made huge difference in doing those instances, but now its a bit different, if Your toons have all heroic gear, You will be able to do last few 5 mans of wotlk(3.3), it might take a bit more learning and getting used to your teams, but you will be able to do it.
I was hoping that it would be more of a challenge, but no i can do it all in my gear that I transferred my toons to the ptr with, no one has more than 2 pieces of 232 t9 there, on live i have 3 toons with full t9, mostly 245.
For leveling this wont make a difference at all, same for doing new 5 mans.........basically tldr there is nothing left to gear up for, unless they announce another filler patch.

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basically tldr there is nothing left to gear up for, unless they announce another filler patch.

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What you fail to realize, not all of us are in top guilds that can gear out all 5 of our toons in 245 gear. You're the extreme minority here. There's nothing left on live for you, grats you win the game. There's TONS of stuff on live for the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by Svpernova09

What you fail to realize, not all of us are in top guilds that can gear out all 5 of our toons in 245 gear. You're the extreme minority here. There's nothing left on live for you, grats you win the game. There's TONS of stuff on live for the rest of us.

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what you don't realize is what i wrote above, my toons on the ptr don't have that gear, and yet i was able to clear all new 5 mans.
245+ gear is used for raiding, and it isn't required for what most boxers do(ie 5 mans)
Also I got all my 245 gear in this past month, i havent been boxing in that time at all, just to show you the difference, my toons on the ptr GS is between 4435 to 4700. On live i have 3 toons above 5200, and 2 struggles with 4600ish.
I don't know what you mean by tons of stuff, maybe pvp, because few instances that were not completed by few don't count to me as "tons"(most serious boxers have done all heroics by now)

I really hope I never become a "serious" multiboxer, doesn't sound like much fun.
:)

I'm excited about the badge changes, personally. I'm a bit of an achievement whore, so I've not spent any time really gearing up my toons, other than stuff I've received from PvP.

I'm working on the no-rating arena set for Feral Druids to act as a base set of five pieces for just starting heroics. I know it's not ideal, but they're pretty good pieces of gear for a bear tank, or so I heard, at least to get you started. I want to start doing heroics and such.

Sadly, I'm still working on that pesky 100 mount achievement. Once I get that, however, I think my time will mainly be spent between leveling up other teams for fun and gearing up an awesome PvE team.

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Originally Posted by Niley

what you don't realize is what i wrote above, my toons on the ptr don't have that gear, and yet i was able to clear all new 5 mans.
245+ gear is used for raiding, and it isn't required for what most boxers do(ie 5 mans)
Also I got all my 245 gear in this past month, i havent been boxing in that time at all, just to show you the difference, my toons on the ptr GS is between 4435 to 4700. On live i have 3 toons above 5200, and 2 struggles with 4600ish.
I don't know what you mean by tons of stuff, maybe pvp, because few instances that were not completed by few don't count to me as "tons"(most serious boxers have done all heroics by now)

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Obviously you are looking for confirmation so you can move on. I'll go ahead and be mother Hen, Go ahead its okay, you can move on. If you are not interested in achievements, pvp, or raiding then its time to take a break. I find WOW to be more than just the game mechanics but if that's all that interests you and you have completed what you are interested in then there is no point playing. If you aren't having fun then move on.

Perhaps after a break a new spark will develop and you can begin your adventures in WOW once again.

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Originally Posted by Vecter

Obviously you are looking for confirmation so you can move on. I'll go ahead and be mother Hen, Go ahead its okay, you can move on. If you are not interested in achievements, pvp, or raiding then its time to take a break. I find WOW to be more than just the game mechanics but if that's all that interests you and you have completed what you are interested in then there is no point playing. If you aren't having fun then move on.

Perhaps after a break a new spark will develop and you can begin your adventures in WOW once again.

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Thanks but you don't need You mother me. Your assumptions are wrong, I'm actually very excited about 3.3 for my own reasons. I only said that t9 grind is pointless.

I always get a little laugh when I see the take of "serious" players in the game. Everyone's view of serious is different. Some would say that all serious boxers would have completed heroics prior to 3.1 when they became outgeared to them. Others would say serious boxers have arena titles. People would compare achievements and see if you got your Glory of the Hero when it was exceptionally hard or when you killed raid bosses 10 man and 25 man. Still others would then see if you're truly multiclassing a mixed team and claim that running multiple shamans or running all dps in a raid isn't "serious" multiboxing.

Doesn't really matter in the long run. The game has plenty of options to keep motivation and things to do. It's not always about the BiS gear or whatever the latest "endgame" is. There's plenty of content around. It's still a game and not a resume. I play for fun and challenge - and if you can't find either atm, then a break would probably suit you best.

Either way, all this talk of gearscore and seriousness gives an air of talking down ones nose and an air of elitism. Not sure if that's intended.

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Originally Posted by Vecter

Obviously you are looking for confirmation so you can move on. I'll go ahead and be mother Hen, Go ahead its okay, you can move on. If you are not interested in achievements, pvp, or raiding then its time to take a break. I find WOW to be more than just the game mechanics but if that's all that interests you and you have completed what you are interested in then there is no point playing. If you aren't having fun then move on.

Perhaps after a break a new spark will develop and you can begin your adventures in WOW once again.

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I recommend everyone cancel their accounts until the expansion. Refocus on the grind once you hit 85. If you are still leveling toons up I guess you can keep playing. I have 15 characters and have no desire for more so its time to sit out and save some cash.

Well, if you arent having fun any more, sure, cancel accounts and wait for cataclysm. I however am still having a blast, and need to keep gearing up to remain competitive in PvP, and I want to be able to experience the raid content, so getting full T9 through heroics is a necessary step towards my goals. I have a singleboxing friend (my arena healer) and we're gonna blast our way through heroics, on 2 teams, and get as geared as possible.

Even when the gear resets, its always easier to have full epic gear, because all the new content will be designed for a lvl 78 in greens to be able to accomplish, solo. Also, It's not like the expansion is coming out anytime soon, so theres still plenty of life left in all current gear.

Im going to stop running ToC PuG raids I think, it's pretty frustrating right now with a bunch of bad players. Used to be no problem clearing to Anub and then a 50/50 shot of finishing him too, now its amazing if we beat northrend beasts. I think I will refocus on my pvp group (dk and 4 rets) or level that 5th shaman to 80 so I can go pewpew in BGs.

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Originally Posted by Ualaa

In Cataclysm they're supposed to change a lot of mechanics.
We'll want different stats on gear.
Tanks will not need any defense, they'll be crit capped from talents alone.

I'd imagine a lot of the WotLK gear won't be itemized terribly well for changes in Cataclysm.
Still it should be decent gear, until you acquire better Cataclysm gear.

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One of the reported changes coming with Cataslysm is allowing professions to rearrange the stats on gear.
For example, Tailors will be able to replace +Int on and item with +Spirit

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Originally Posted by pinotnoir

I recommend everyone cancel their accounts until the expansion. Refocus on the grind once you hit 85. If you are still leveling toons up I guess you can keep playing. I have 15 characters and have no desire for more so its time to sit out and save some cash.

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Thought you quit WoW for Aion?

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One of the reported changes coming with Cataslysm is allowing professions to rearrange the stats on gear.
For example, Tailors will be able to replace +Int on and item with +Spirit

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FWIW, replace some int with spirit if spirit isn't on the item was what he said. They dont want you to find a of the whale plate item and replace the spirit with stamina to make a of stamina x2

Ya so those shitty resto gears that drop in ToC you can take the mp5 and make it haste or crit. Well if they werent getting rid of mp5. ;)