anyone doing warlocks?

I have a team with 3 warlocks, priest & a druid and just got to level 70 with them.
I've tried several different combinations and I can't seem to beat the demon spec.
I tried destructo but when you combine the warlock with his pet they pretty much come out even.
the only one low on the scale was affliction, I couldn't get the affliction locks scores up no matter what i did to his macros.

I ran them through killing the first few mobs in the nexus just before I logged last night and I thought they were doing pretty good.
the destructo lock as doing 950dps ( fairly well geared in BC purples, he was my very first level 70 when BC came out and I was solo boxing then ) void was doing a little over 100dps.
the demon spec locks with master conj stones up were doing 800+dps (just some northend greens and bc blues) and they fel guards were doing 275 dps.

What kind of setup is anyone else using?

You'll notice affliction start to get up there once you are fighting bosses. Otherwise, the mobs rarely last long enough for a full DoT to go through, which can be major damage.

I run 2 specs currently on my 80 lock, FG/Ember (2/3 Demo 1/3 Destro basically) raid spec and full Affliction. The FG/Ember allows for a lot more flexibility in my opinion, but w/ more gear, it'll matter less probably. They do virtually the same DPS, though.

The main strengths of Affliction are going to be more noticeable when solo'ing or in longer fights. For normal mobs, I'd suggest just throwing corruption on and draininng, or if it's a grroup, use Seed of Corruption and then Rain of Fire for that AoE damage.

If you're using 3 locks, personally, I'd set them all as FG/Ember (or straight Destro) or all as Affliction, don't mix and match, because they don't compliment each other.

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From a boxing point of view, Demonology is by far the easiest spec.
If you're single boxing, it will likely be the worst spec, but with pet enhancements in 3.2, it might gain some of its effectiveness back.
In BC, for Tier 4 and Tier 5 content, Destruction could not touch an equally geared Demo lock.
By Tier 6, Demo was still better then any other class for DPS, but Destruction was better.

Single boxing, Affliction is consistently higher then Demonology in my guilds raids.
Still Demonology feels more like warlock play to me, then Destruction or Affliction.

If its also working well for you, and will have significant buffs next patch...
Good to hear.

I'm leveling 6x affliction locks 3x resto druids and 1x holy/disc priest. All instant cast damage and healing spells without having to face the target. It should be great for pvp soon as I get a few more levels.

I've never boxed locks, but my main of 3 years is a lock. I would suggest sticking with demo on all three. Missing out demon form but putting points into affliction to gain soul siphon on corruption. The increased damage and extra health regen reduce the (already low) downtime even further.

3 felguards charging in at once...corruption....life tap then drain life.

Given that I solod most of the group quests (even some of the ring quests) on my demo lock, I don't think you'll have any problems. Just remember to keep your demons health up.

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I have a three crew warlock team that just reached 80.

Demonology through the whole grind. @ 80 respec to Destruction.

Have thrown one lock in with my Shaman crew and straight off the bat, in full crafted gear but NO badge gear, it is equalling and often BEATING the badge geared shaman.

My main problem is that the lock is a freakin agro whore. It is pushing my tanking well out of the comfort zone.

I have 78 locks/priest (4 locks/1priest). Now, I LOVE instances. I did most if not almost all vanilla instances. I did some (quite a few) BC instances. But I can't seem to do WotLK instances almost at all. LOTS of movement, lots of kill these things before you attack the boss, kill these mobs that don't have aggro tables, etc. It is just annoying if you solo, but when I go in with my team, that is a lot to think about and do with just one person controlling things. I didn't want to box to make things harder, I wanted to make things easier. So I kinda give up on doing instances for my level. I just do them for fun later (UK at 74, Nexus at 76, etc). I LOVE to quest now. It is fun to do group/elite quests alone. Anyway....

I loved demo up to felguard, would never do that different. FG is just too much fun. Then I went down affliction to make things a little better. I am mostly a defensive person, so having my pets tank for me is important. My DPS is just so my healer doesn't run out of mana and it doesn't take years to kill stuff. Recently I have been trying shadow on my priest and it has been pretty good. It gives me a few extra seconds in PVP since shadow form makes people 4 shot me instead of 2 shot. It at least gets a few extra DOTs on people so even if I get wiped, they usually die. The disc/holy priest never really healed in PVP, he just got ganked.

I am sad that everyone told me not to do locks when I first started out. You won't be able to solo MC, you won't be able to do 3 min heroic runs, you won't be able to do anything. Sure clothies aren't the most stout group, but I have loved pet classes forever. I am more about having fun than worrying about running stuff for loot. 90% of my loot pre-78 comes from quest (group ones with blue rewards) and at 78 I add in or replace most with crafted blues.

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lol, I think my priest had one of the locks down like my avitar pic

Best thing about Affliction is that if you work it right, everything in a trash pack will die simultaneously, even without AOE. It's most amusing (but perhaps I should get out more). :)

I've been leaning on the felguards more often lately without a good reason for it ... but usually I'll run instances with two locks specced Afflic, and one specced Demo/Ruin. They share a Corruption/Curse macro, then the Demo locks casts Immolate while the other two are casting UA, and finally the Demo lock spams Shadowbolt while the others do Haunt/drain. This gives me an improved imp and felhunter for +sta/+int buffs, and the felguard gives +spell on crit and the occasional stun. The configuration changes for different situations ... like, I always run three felguards against Loken, whom I want to burst down as quickly as possible before the priest's mana pool is exhausted. I prefer doing Slaves to Saronite as three Afflic locks for running + dotting, but it's not really necessary, just better, and I'm not going to bother changing spec just for a daily.

Since the Midsummer event reminded me of it, I've been PvPing a bit more, and wish I could triple-spec for Destro, to get Chaos Bolt. Someday ...

I love affliction, Im sure FGs are awesome, and yes destro does good burst... but for leveling fast nothing beats Afflic.

Keeping in mind the fastest person to level 70-80 was an affliction lock (with a pocket healer) - I'm running 4x affliction locks right now, and I basically have that same advantage. I have been running all instances with just the 4 locks, no healer.. and its been just ez mode. With 4 Voids out I can dot so many mobs that siphon life starts healing for 30% health per tick.

More mobs = more dots = more self healing = more dots. Endless loop.. its awesome. The trick is going to be finding good spots with dynamic respawns.

I have a 5 group of locs all spec'd affliction at level 68, and I have to say they are way op atm :) for questing affliction is just insane. All I have to do is cast corruption x5 ( wich heals me as well ) and run to the next mob, if the mob is a bit meaner I simply start with a haunt x5. Mobs rarely last 1 corruption. It was simply ammazing to get level 66-68 in borean tundra killing rhinos. I think I still have bags of rhino meat left :)

Ok, i'm giving afliction another try and I'm having trouble with unstable affliction.

/castsequence reset=target/8 curse of agony,corruption, Immolate, Unstable Affliction, Haunt, life tap,drain life, drain life

simple enough macro yet in this sequence Unstable Affliction is never applied, it casts but doesn't do anything.
recount never shows it in the list.
I can cast Unstable Affliction stand alone and I see it doing damage and then it's in the recount display.

The second problem I've see is that you can't Haunt everything and you can life drain everything.

Im using Demo,with 20 pts in affliction.
I just send in Felguardsx5 put on 5xCorruption and Drain Life
If trash is a little stubborn CoE and Drain Soul.
For bosses I dump all my affliction spells on send in the FG and Health Funnel,them to keep them up.

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simple enough macro yet in this sequence Unstable Affliction is never applied, it casts but doesn't do anything.
recount never shows it in the list.
I can cast Unstable Affliction stand alone and I see it doing damage and then it's in the recount display.

The second problem I've see is that you can't Haunt everything and you can life drain everything.

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I don't understand these. Could you post a video or something? I mean, unless you're playing on a retarded private server, this makes zero sense.

I posted the same question in the WoW warlock forums and apparently they now have it so that you can't cast both Immolate and Unstable Affliction on a target.
what a major nerf.

as for the life drain, it was a typo, I meant to say you can't haunt or life drain some targets like anything mechanical.
I was pointing out that a macro that starts with haunt will fail misserably if you are being attacked by a robots. I had a tragic robot incident when my macro started with haunt.

so I have my macro changed a litte to something like
/castrandom haunt,
/castsequence x,y,z

so that if haunt can't be cast it still does something.
I was also toying with
/cast [mod] haunt
/castsequence x,y,z

I'm not sure which one I like better

that castrandom is bad, you need more commas or haunt will be refreshed too soon.

you can't over haunt, only one haunt at a time.
I did find I could haunt a robot, I just couldn't life drain it.

I'm not feeling the love for my priest.
I've never seen anything like it. she is such an aggro magnet.
I can attack a group and they attack the priest when she hasn't even cast a single heal yet.

she either oom or dead

Ya but arent you wasting mana and dps by recasting a spell that is already going??

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Ya but arent you wasting mana and dps by recasting a spell that is already going??

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No because the +20% to dot damage will still be there and you will do more damage and receive the heal right away. The damage from haunt itself is a hit with crit chance and not actually a DoT.

haunt can't be cast again until the first haunt has run it's course and has returned to the warlock.
the cast random has a 50% chance of recasting the haunt as soon as the previous haunt has finished.
The castrandom macro is much better for instances where you want haunt up on the boss all the time.

when you can't cast x in the /castrandom x,
it passes through to the next line which is my cast sequence.

the reason I was looking at the castrandom is that I sometimes switch targets to get dots going on everything but only one haunt will be allowed.

I ended up going with
/cast [mod] haunt
/castsequence x,y,z

this was because it keeps my guys in sync better and for questing the first two instant cast DoTs kill without bothering to haunt.

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Ok, i'm giving afliction another try and I'm having trouble with unstable affliction.

/castsequence reset=target/8 curse of agony,corruption, Immolate, Unstable Affliction, Haunt, life tap,drain life, drain life

simple enough macro yet in this sequence Unstable Affliction is never applied, it casts but doesn't do anything.
recount never shows it in the list.
I can cast Unstable Affliction stand alone and I see it doing damage and then it's in the recount display.

The second problem I've see is that you can't Haunt everything and you can life drain everything.

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should be /castsequence reset=target/8 curse of agony,corruption,Unstable Affliction, Haunt, life tap,drain life, drain life ?

direct from patch notes

"Unstable Affliction and Immolation are now in the same exclusive category (both damage- over- time effects cannot be present at the same time by the same caster on a target)."