Ding 70 but need some advice.

Ok So I'm finally 70 but now I need to look seriously at my talent specs. I run a mixed team Pally, 2x Mages, Shaman and a Priest. I'm thinking Pally Protection of-cource, Mages undecided but people are suggesting Fire but i'm unsure if I can box that with my pally generating enough threat, Shaman Elemental and priest Holy.

Now because I box on chinese servers the level cap is 70 as we dont have Wotlk yet. Can someone offer a little advice of some links to level 70 specs. I've been looking on here but most builds show for level 80's so i'm not sure what to leave off, wether to split my points are just spec deep into single trees.

I also raid these 5 so i need to keep that in mine for the specs.

Thanks in advance.

I would also be interested in seeing a good Mage spec. My mixed group has a mage, but I'm never quite sure that I'm doing what I ought to be (especially in a multiboxed environment).

I would probly run either deep frost for nice snaring/cc or deep fire, at 70 with the new talent trees i would probly just max one tree or the other

I think the easier Mage spec for multibox is arcane. Just do a macro that pops trinkets and Arcane power, then castsequence Arcane Blast x3 (or 1 or 2, if you have mana problems), Arcane Barrage. Also put on a separate button POM+Pyro and remember to press it when it's up.

This is fairly easy, but you don't get the extra spell crit. For that, a fire (Fireball if you have crappy gear, Frostfire otherwise) build can be better. Hot Streaks seems out of the league, but managing scorch, living bomb and the nuke (and maybe fire blast) shouldn't be that hard.

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Originally Posted by 'Tonyx',index.php?page=Thread&postID=194099#post19 4099

I think the easier Mage spec for multibox is arcane. Just do a macro that pops trinkets and Arcane power, then castsequence Arcane Blast x3 (or 1 or 2, if you have mana problems), Arcane Barrage. Also put on a separate button POM+Pyro and remember to press it when it's up.

This is fairly easy, but you don't get the extra spell crit. For that, a fire (Fireball if you have crappy gear, Frostfire otherwise) build can be better. Hot Streaks seems out of the league, but managing scorch, living bomb and the nuke (and maybe fire blast) shouldn't be that hard.

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Well because he doesn't have the expansion no frostfire and no arcane barrage.

I'm going to have to agree with deep fire. You won't have any good aoe with your shaman and you will really lose out if you go to deep frost(blizzard won't help). Blast wave will help you and maybe go into arcane to improved arcane explosion. For me when the crap hits the fan, holy nova + blast wave or arcane explosion can do a ton of damage.

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Originally Posted by 'badashh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=194104#post 194104

Well because he doesn't have the expansion no frostfire and no arcane barrage.

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Opss.. I should learn to read better. Sorry.

I'd say arcane for AOE capabilities. When questing, single target mobs die in 1 shot, so longer cast times are not good. When aoe'ing, consecration + AE + holy nova + fire nova totem.

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Originally Posted by 'badashh',index.php?page=Thread&postID=194104#post 194104

Well because he doesn't have the expansion no frostfire and no arcane barrage.

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Arcane barrage is talent learned skill from the 3.0 patch. So the question we need to know is what patch you run on, as we got 3.0 patch a couple months before the actual expansion I think.

Patch version would be very handy to know. Though, even then I'd be rusty on specs.

[quote='Basilikos',index.php?page=Thread&postID=194 080#post194080]I would also be interested in seeing a good Mage spec. My mixed group has a mage, but I'm never quite sure that I'm doing what I ought to be (especially in a multiboxed environment).[/quote]

I don't mean to derail, but just wanted to add a quick comment for Basilikos. Check out my mage spec here for a decent PVE spec: [url='http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Duskwood&n=Luan']Luan (Arcane)[/url]. For PVP, I would definitely make some changes though. Her build also focuses a bit on survivability to reduce incoming damage, so you can sacrifice some of that (Magic Absorption) for other DPS talents.

Rotation: Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Blast, Arcane Barrage. (AB, AB, AB, ABarr)

When manually controlled: AB, AB, AB, Arcane Missiles if proc'd (usually the case) - otherwise ABarr. Advanced tactic: when channeling missiles, try to fire off ABarr before the 5th wave of missiles fires so that ABarr also benefits from the AB stack damage.

Mana hog, but great damage. Only time I ever had a mana issue was 10-man KT in Naxx (5 minutes of trash fighting and then a 5mil hit point boss). Overall, my mage came out 2nd in overall DPS, sandwiched between two DK DPS.

Played around with some Frost spec the other day actually. Single target mobs were pretty much non existant after the first cast. And if they some how survived Ice lance would polish off the sliver that was left. Mana usage was practically null

i also ran AOE with Arcane... was very fun but you would have to sit and drink a couple times.

Either way Mages have become one of my favored sets of alts.

Have yet to try fire... maybe later this weekend

Fire can be tricky, I can pull it off to some degree because I only dual box and my leader is the mage. Hot Streak would be pretty crazy to control with two mages. I've been considering switching to something a little more spam friendly but I haven't been playing my caster combo much.

That's really the crux of mages (and a few other classes) in the latest patches/talents. They rely on procs to achieve their maximum DPS. They all do good damage, but it really comes down to what is easiest for you to try to multibox with. Ideally, I would probably prefer fire spec through 3.0.9, but I realized that I wouldn't be managing my procs all that well.

Before Lich and the changes that brought Arcane Barrage, which finally breathed life into arcane specs, I was mostly arcane, but a lot of points into fire which comprised the majority of my spell casts. The damage was decent at best, but Slow was incredibly invaluable when you run outlands heroics with only a 4-man guild. I could poly one target and then kite another mob around all day. :P

Back to the OPs question...

During this time, I recall fire being the highest DPS, but frost was preferred for raids because the mana regen to the group was too good to go without. Fire was pretty easy to manage. Get Improved Scorch, stack it 5 times, then lay into the target with fireballs. Use PoM-AP-Pyro to start before the fireball barrage, if you want to maximize DPS. Refresh a scorch every 12 seconds or so (think the stack had a 15sec timer?) so the stack does not wear off.

Frost spec is usually built around the water elemental, which you need to pop, but had a fairly long cooldown back then. So every five minutes or so they could spike their damage for about 45 seconds. Damage was mostly frostbolts.

wow .. wotlk isnt out in china yet ?? O.o soz cant help with talants (as i suck at em) but if someone could link a great ele shami spec would love you long time :P

We run patch 3.0.5 the patch numbers are out of sink with the Us so just think early BC talents.

At the moment my leveling is stopped because of the level 70 cap so AOE is not so important and I currently run as frost with a small touch of Arcane but not deep enough for anything special. My shaman often out DPS me and i think its because of my spell rotation which I only use Trinkets >> Icy viens then /Castrandom frostbolt, frostbolt, Ice lance. Maybe I just need to play with this spec a little more.

I speced on Fire last night on the target dummys going from Ice to fire over a 1 minute sustaned casting Ice=30627 Fire=35800 DPS so I was quite encouraged but when I tryed it on mobs Ice actually out preformed it ( /castrandom fireball, fireball, fireball, scorch, fireblast) it seemed that fireball was taking so much longer to cast than frostbolt). Both have similar gear, maybe it was just down to gear except the fire mage has silghtly better sholders the rest is the same as the ice mage. I could put it down to random crits but if the ice was critting more then DPS was still decent. Now I'm confused more than ever.

Also i have vistide many links to specs and some seem to spec in a very funny way. Like deep frost then also start specing from the middle of another tree down. Is this something from 3.0.9 or have the specs just been messed up?