Hi guys I'm thinking of starting a 3-box team, I'm considering 3 mages but I just want some feedback on how good they are in BG and in 3v3 Arenas.
Does anyone else have a 3x mages combo that do arenas?
Or should I do 3x shamans instead?
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Hi guys I'm thinking of starting a 3-box team, I'm considering 3 mages but I just want some feedback on how good they are in BG and in 3v3 Arenas.
Does anyone else have a 3x mages combo that do arenas?
Or should I do 3x shamans instead?
I would go with 3 shaman if it were me, or warlocks or something.
Mages seem to be pretty reliant on mobility, mostly through blink, which is difficult to use as a multiboxer (unless you wanna blink them all at the same time). Then again, I haven't boxed mages, so I wouldn't know. All I know is shaman hit almost as hard, wear mail + shield, and being an offensive hybrid they have a myriad of abilities that work particularly well when stacked.
Multiple mages are pretty effing sweet as Pom/AP scorch impact spec. 44/17/0 down to molten armor.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'lolmannz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=104962#pos t104962
Hm... I'm considering Shamans more now.., I know they are very popular in 5s but are they as good in 3s?
tbqh i'd say no. Not unless you were going resto.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'lolmannz',index.php?page=Thread&postID=104993#pos t104993
I have 3 mages. They are nice when nobody attacks them. But like the guy said above. They rely on mobility. When you box them their mobility is out the window. They are very squishy too. You will be happier with 3 shaman. My advice is bite the bullet and go 5. I made the initial mistake of just doing 3.
Aside from being instantly destroyed by fear bombs of any sort, multiple frost mages pull off ridiculous shatter comboes and keep a massive amount of people almost permanently frozen (3x water elementals, 3 frost novas, 3 frostbite procs, and cold snap to top it all off) and multiple fire mages have very high impact procs as well as a possible pom+pyro if you dump 40 into arcane, although they are far too squishy to be anything other than a gimmick bunch that have a large (but counterable) multiple PoM Pyro every 3 minutes.
Frost is the way to go, imo. All the freezing effects give you time to work out all the nitty gritty stuff like your toons facing the wrong way or getting pwnd by melee. I personally use all blinks at the same time but I have to hope that my attacker doesn't stun me with one facing a different direction from the other 2! Plus icy veins gets rid of the annoying hunter pet pushback BS.
To avoid fear. You can sheep whichever fear class is running toward you. You can frost nova (though I wouldn't rely on this cause if you misstime it you're dead). You can blink. Most importantly you can chain CS together for 9 seconds of silence. As for going frost I tried it out and while I don't personally like frost... the shatter combos are insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Akoko',index.php?page=Thread&postID=105289#post10 5289
edit: I humbly disagree with the following statement: "although they are far too squishy to be anything other than a gimmick bunch that have a large (but counterable) multiple PoM Pyro every 3 minutes." :P
Due to hardware limitations, and not having the dough to shell out for a new tower, I'm 3 boxing shaman, and I'm havin a ball. For pvp, you'll lack the OMG 1 hit punch till you get good spelldamage. But still, with 3, if you let me get a cast off comfortably, you're toast. Throw in a shock and not much can survive, especially if there's a few crits in there. I imagine at 70 I'll have to mix in more healing talents and gear, since I'll be a little more on the defensive than a 5 boxer. (the loss of one making a much larger difference when you only have 3) I regret not having my own "anytime anywhere" instance crew, since finding groups is the crappiest part of wow.
I *often* play two frost mages on their own for low-profile BG fun and farming. They're GREAT fun, but lack the single target "boom" of PoM + Pyro.
I can blink them together with no problems - I just have to remember to hit the follow button again.
They're really fun in BG, and my farming team of choice, but I can't imagine them being very effective at all in Arenas, where using your pet's frost nova equivalent is about all that gives them a real edge (difficult due to the need to click on the screen). They're just too squishy.
Mages have a get-out-of-fear free card too, with their ice block. Not as effective as 3x tremor totems (assuming nobody's wanding them away of course), but better than nothing!
I do some 3v3 with my shammys but i cant seem to get it out of the 1500 bracket atm, and you need to move in really fast or else 1 will be cced forever and you basicly play 2v3.
What i normaly do is to pop heroisem just before the gate opens, rush straight into them drope 3 fire nova totems and chainlighe + NS + Shock someone, and then i stack up totems and heal up. If i kill somone on my rush i normaly win easily. Just have to look out for fear classes.. But in 3v3 its not that common as in 5v5.. so many games will be like rogue mage and resto drood etc..
Personaly id say that go for 4 shammys and get a solo healer for 5v5. If you wanna try 3v3 i think that 2 BM/survival hunter + a rest drood as a main would own nicely. You can station out your hunter so they have range, and you kite around with yor druid as you would allways do, pets can easily be controled from your druid while moving, and hunters can add viper stings at all time on opponent healers, and you drian them down while kiting... I dont know.. but the idea feels so doabol :D
This is until you run the RWD and they WTF PWD your face in 3v3. The 5v5 with a priest/pally is so much more viable.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'xtobbenx',index.php?page=Thread&postID=105528#pos t105528
I would go for the shamans 2 elemental and 1 chain heal spammer
Out of my 70s I dislike PvP with my mage the most. Sure if I can get ahold of a Rogue that is out of stealth and by himself or a lone Warrior but past that unless you get a good POM+PYRO off you are screwed. And if you are a Pom/Pyro you are giving up the benefits of frost.
Usually the best I can hope fore is that my Water Elemental distracts them long enough for me to get a couple of good FB - Shatter hits, else they pay attention to the Elemental giving me a chance to Invis away.
I do have fun with the mage, don't get me wrong, but they are pretty much cannon fodder if you ask me. Sure every few minutes you can own with Pom/Pyro or if your Deep Frost Water Elemental times how many every, but the rest of the time you are going to want to cry.
Pick your fights well if you are a mage. If you see a lock, priest, or warrior or anyone with an AoE fear running towards you, range freeze them with your pets. If they try to fear with a cast time, you have 3 counterspells at your disposal.
Though usually a rogue of the opposite faction will pick the fight for you and you have to frost nova, blow all 3 blinks, turn around, and 1 shot shatter combo him.
I went up against a well geared well coordinated 5v5 team. (yes my ratings shitty I know lol) I killed them with scorch.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'mlwhitt',index.php?page=Thread&postID=105923#post 105923
As a multiboxer u instantly have a huge crosshair over your head in BG's cos you truely are the biggest threat, therefore playing 3 mages would get roflpwnt by rogues and druids who can stealth up to you, and without some kind of heals, mages go down fast. I play a mage solo and he goes pretty well in pvp, but mastering 2-5 mages at once would be oh-so tricky. except ofcourse your boom-instant cast really do hurt whoever you have targeted >:D
I'm leveling 3 Nelf hunters with cats. I'm looking forward to trying them in BG when my cats get prowl. Some enemies are in for a surprise when they get jumped by 3 prowling cats followed by 3 hunters popping out of shadowmeld delivering 3 aimed shots followed by 3 arcane shots. I think my tactics will be mostly ambushing people. Not so much running into the middle of big groups of enemies.