Thank you for that tact!!, after more than 40 wipes total, I finally I beat ToC HC!! wohoo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfish
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Thank you for that tact!!, after more than 40 wipes total, I finally I beat ToC HC!! wohoo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfish
I watched your video yesterday and it was an incredible help, managed to clear HToC twice now - thx!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schwarz
The big differences to my approach were:
1 - during the jousting positioning the team AWAY from the walls, amazing difference as I can actually target properly, don't have to worry about the champions getting a new mount and if the champions are out of los then I just take a step back
2 - Black Knight - the fire eles in the second phase works like a charm
3 - Bringing the team over to the Black Knight with the pally in the 3rd phase made him cake, didn't lose anyone in this phase
on the second bosses I had trouble with the memory of eck for some reason and wiped maybe 3 times, the fourth time I zoned in it was that dragon from VH and was pretty easy, although that time I did have some tremor totems down
the pally boss wasn't an issue, had him today and he just dropped
Thx !
I managed to clear the instance on heroic. It's extremely hard, but I think I could repeat it. I only got one piece of loot I could use: a cloth chest for my mage.
On phase 2 I drop 4 fire elementals + army of the dead.
Those little buggers keep the ghouls in the middle while the fire elementals burn them down. While I move away my team from the slaughter, i pop thunderstorm while running away, throwing back anything that follows back into the grinder. Then i start burning down the black knight from a distance.
I didn't really see anything mentioned about this, but this is a long thread so if I missed it, oops.
A little late to the party since I dropped a few toons and brought up another paladin {from level 1 with no RAF, ouch}. I noticed a while back during a messy Black Night kill where I had to do a LOT of moving that he'd dropped desecration on my totems. I finally got my new toon up and was able to try TotC tonight since it was the heroic daily {I was SOOO not geared for this, but anyway}.
He will indeed consider totems as "targets". Tonight I backed all my guys against the wall near the exit and dropped 2 totem sets on top of each other, then strafed everyone to the left so they were about 5 or so yards away from the totem farm but still against the wall. Every single time he dropped Desecration on my totems and not my guys. Turned out to be the ONLY fight that I didn't lose a single toon on, and it was the one I was dreading the most.
Great tip khatovar !!
I'll try that : Drop the totemfarm and move out of the way. That would severly lower the overall dmg taken in the 3d phase.
I really don't understand how people find toc hc easy. atm i'm trying the mounted shit with my 4 shaman, naked. 3 wipes so far got 1 boss around at 80% when my main died and i quit.
vehicles......
Just joust them away from the other horses. I don't do this because I end up having my tank get dismounted everytime almost instantly. I always managed to waste them though. I usually have one char die though.
Got it as my daily the other day. I still think it's pretty easy as long as you know how to do the fights:
http://www.dual-boxing.com/showthrea...light=jousting
Make sure to keep your shields up on all your guys!
On the first fight, I can do the trios fairly easily. Sometimes I have to get a fresh mount sometimes not. But when the bosses charge, it's almost as if they togather 1 shot me. By the time I can get back up......(They stun?)....they have already killed another of my toons. Also, it seems if I have to switch mounts, they won't pick up focus again at all, no matter how much I mash my button.
6 times so far, best I've gotten one down, which remounted before I could get remounted again myslef. This all on regular.
You must not be keeping your shields up on your toons. There's simply no way that they do that much damage, especially on normal. Are you smashing 1, 2, and 4 TOGETHER? Like, CONSTANTLY? Cause you should be. Also you don't have to wait until you are dismounted to switch - you can simply click on another horse when your horse is low and you'll jump onto it seamlessly. Read the post I linked above - it' not pretty, but it's simple and effective.
I'm going to keep at it. I'm assuming it's just a case of me needing more practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbobobb
I watched some videos on this and it looks "easy" lol.
Is there a way to speed up normal btw? I'm not getting the fast forward oiption I see on heroic videos.
I believe you have to clear it on Heroic once befor you get the fast forward option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Velassra
I did this again using a strat that someone posted and it made it easier. They changed something to make the joust harder. I use to just group my guys up and kill them but now you have to spread out.
I setup my 4 guys in front like this. I made sure they were not too far apart and kept my 5th.. (tank main) in the back. By doing this it kept my guys from getting focus fired by all 3 mounted combatants. Then all I did was spam the attack, shield break and shield keys until they died. I recommend trying this formation if you are having trouble with the joust part of this instance.
1 2 3 4
.....5
All you need is for the party leader to have cleared it in normal, then you'll have the option to skip the pagentry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Targ
I got this the other day with my team and i just went ahead and did it (was planning on afking out on first wipe), dunno if they fixed something but didnt' seem too bad and I 1 shot it all without a healer and a multicomp team - pally tank, mage, boomkin, 2x ele shamans. last boss is still pretty crazy without a dedicated healer but spreading out and burning boss works well, and a pally tank is also just superb for holy wrath.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinotnoir
I seriously wiped on this forever. I tried every other strat on here and none of them worked. This worked 1st time and so well I kind of laughed. I was giving up H:ToC as impossible too. Other bosses were simple.
That's the thing, in all the times I've played this non-multiboxed I have never seen a character get focussed by all three, to the point they get hit by 3 shield-breakers, then get charged by all 3 at once, so I'm guessing theres something in the code that makes them pick a character and focus it you're all sat on top of each other (like only multiboxers will do). I wouldn't be surprised if they made it that way, just to stop boxers from farming abyss crystals, seeing as on normal this is probably the best place to do that.
I gave up after 5 wipes on the three champs couldnt even get one dead. On mounted bosses so just said screw it.
Ok screw it ill keep trying i just need some really good strats for the mounted combat against bosses can down other three waves simple but main one is rough. Ive tried strobe on keep hitting my follow nothing.
My video is here if that helps http://coltimar.com/blog/?page_id=248
Man heroic im still having massive trouble u cant kill the heros fast enough lol.
I'm just happy I can finally clear it - easily - on normal mode. Next up I'll give heroic a chance.
On normal mode its quite easy, but on heroic it is the only instance I skip. I simply can't get passed the 3 heroes in mount without wiping 10 times min. I tried every possible way that was mentioned in this thread but I simply can't get it right. With all the repair bills + time taken, its better off wait 15min and get another random.
try my "strategy of center". it s a lot easier. run to mounted champions in middle area (aka engage them in middle ASAP, moving to them). if you do it right they dont charge :)Quote:
On normal mode its quite easy, but on heroic it is the only instance I skip. I simply can't get passed the 3 heroes in mount without wiping 10 times min. I tried every possible way that was mentioned in this thread but I simply can't get it right. With all the repair bills + time taken, its better off wait 15min and get another random.