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OH MY GOD HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS THMETHOEHTIJOTEHJTEIGUOD HDJTIHQuote:
Originally Posted by LordsServant
Seriously, it is no longer about one input one action anymore
If using any other set up results in same or similar unfair advantages then those patterns of play are clearly not safe to employ and players risk getting banned for it. The end result is an unfair advantage over other users playing the game with the EVE Online client as it is shipped and action will be taken in such cases.
However for your crusade against MiRai...who as far as i'm aware does not even play eve (??) yes you are correct as far as i can tell from this shmear of an argument
@Shadow, yes, if you're too good you may eventually get banned
I don't know about commands per second though, perhaps it has something to do with how many commands you give out across however many clients and having it scale as such
But commands per second seems too trivial
Let's reign in the speculation and semantics. These arguments aren't productive and I'm about to call it a dead horse if there isn't some verifiable information presented. No one here has anything to do with EvE's policies - if you want to campaign that, you should take it to an official EvE forum.
Well yes, yes it is. This is me pointing out that that's what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by thedevilyouknow
I don't think Mirai plays eve anymore, but he used to, if my memory is correct (everyone but me having different usernames than their eve names is hella confusing).Quote:
If using any other set up results in same or similar unfair advantages then those patterns of play are clearly not safe to employ and players risk getting banned for it. The end result is an unfair advantage over other users playing the game with the EVE Online client as it is shipped and action will be taken in such cases.
However for your crusade against MiRai...who as far as i'm aware does not even play eve (??) yes you are correct as far as i can tell from this shmear of an argument
@Shadow, yes, if you're too good you may eventually get banned
I don't know about commands per second though, perhaps it has something to do with how many commands you give out across however many clients and having it scale as such
But commands per second seems too trivial
I don't mind if he has differing opinions, but when he wants to have a friendly discussion about it, then shittalks, posts comics, and repeatedly says the equivalent of "nuh uh I saw you're wrong so you're wrong," while spouting off about my lack of "evidence" (nevermind me posting whole walls of logic and links when asked nicely) when he hasn't bothered to give me any evidence for his case whatsoever, there isn't much left to discuss.
I highly doubt it's a case of "too good" - it's just people breaking the rules and expecting something otherwise. Avoid trying to toe the line, or "well technically it's legal...."
Unless it's super easy to see that it's legal and you can't think of it being not legal through very clear logic, don't bother trying it. If you do - guaranteed - CCP will interpret it the other, less lenient way and call it like they see it; illegal and ban.
Did you see my quote earlier?Quote:
Originally Posted by LordsServant
Lords, the only "claim" I've made is that you have no proof of what you're saying about how CCP supposedly interprets the swapping of game window focus as an in-game action -- This has been the main topic of discussion between us for over a day. Your "walls of logic links" were not only masked as bit.ly links since you knew no one was going to click on a LMGTFY link, but they weren't useful by any means in backing up this one single claim of yours. So, I'll ask again...Quote:
Originally Posted by LordsServant
Please provide proof of your claim, other than your own belief, that CCP is interpreting what you consider to be a window focus action as a second action being sent to the game client, and then actioning players based upon that.
I'm looking for a single, and official, quote from CCP on this claim of yours since this information would be helpful to all EVE multiboxers. If you had provided it in your "walls of logic links" then it went overlooked since I wasn't about to sift through Google search results, and all I'm asking for is a direct link to an official CCP statement on this claim -- This is a very simple request.
Got response from ticket about isboxer in general
It may as well be banned
The input duplication rule was a farce, no matter how you do it, if you have an advantage expect the banhammer
link for proof or something other then ISBOXER is banhammered.
I hope you do realize that linking the proof I have is illegal
Also I did not say it was banhammered, I said it may as well be
The part after that you can find proof on page 7, since I got the same copy paste response so as far as im concerned its legal for me to recognise it as a legit response
Man now I so want to be a GM just to fuck with people and create controversies.
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Originally Posted by bugme143
Just wanted to inform you that (Requiem Eternal) and (Spaceship Samurai) + (The Explicit Alliance) is a part off hero collation, and by the way.
-Tin Can Alliance <- not on our site (not blue)
-Rezeda Regnum <- not on our site (not blue)
-Nulli Secunda <- not on our site (not blue)
-Elemental Tide <- not on our site (not blue)
I don't know if there were any arragements between any off these alliances under this battle, but they're not an part off hero/blue to us as far as I know :)
I tend to ignore null politics so I don't know who's with who. I just tend to shoot anything that isn't Blue or Purple, notable exceptions aside.
https://eveskunk.com/sQuote:
Originally Posted by bugme143
:effort:Quote:
Originally Posted by EaTCarbS
Much easier to look for non-blues and just F1 :D
especially when you aren't part of the blue donut. I always ask CFC/N3 people what its like to be surrounded by 3 regions of blue space.Quote:
Originally Posted by bugme143
Er, dunno if you know this but I'm a new goon pet :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EaTCarbS
TBH it's lots of fun. We can harass BL and PL, or take a roam to lowsec for fun.
As CCP wants to ban ISBoxer for 6A2 biolations despite the fact it doesn't violate 6A2, I figured we might as well inform them of another program that violates 6A2; namely, the EVE-O program that is being developed in part by CCP themselves.
http://pastebin.com/EFiykhXZ
Is that program any good? May need to swap to it
The issue is if you click in teh window it changes focus still so it's not nearly as helpful as I expected :(Quote:
Originally Posted by mbox_bob
Still running BTW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZz_5dI6fgM
today.
Anyone still running Incursions with ISBoxer for window management ("next window" and "previous window" hotkeys)? I don't think that CCP sanctions that too.
Interesting. So CCP's going down the old road of T20 where whatever CCP does is exempt from following the EULA. Forward those mails to internalaffairs@ccpgames.com and mention that ISBoxer doesn't modify a client any more than EVE-O preview does.
If you go over to the Team Security thread, your'll find that most of us are pretty confused as to what is and is not allowed. CCP is doing a great job at talking out both sides of their mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by New Horizon
Btw shadow, number of actions per second is stupid
But not as stupid as the complete lack of info they're giving us
From what i've read, no VFX
Oh look. CCP just banned a multiboxer from the forums because they got tired of listening to him. GG CCP, now we know this game isn't worth it anymore (no, not me).
Proof? also they have that power don't they?
Also banned from forums, (double checking) or banned accounts?
Just had an interesting conversation with Steve Ronuken, of Fuzzworks and CSM notoriety:
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http://puu.sh/hhFds.png
did you get a petition on using Round-Robin answered?
Already have a petition answer for round robin.....
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Whether you are using round robin, input broadcasting, rollovers or some other feature of some other third party software - the end result is much the same. I apologize for repeating myself, but this EULA clause is key:
"2. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played."
SO I sent in some links to the videos of me running and asked if I was fine running incursions that way. I also asked if I could use windows ease of access to setup mouse over focus. I was told that windows 7 is a third party program and that they strongly discourage me from using it. I have no now asked what OS I should be using. I will let you know what the response is.
CCP's Team Security is the gift that keeps on giving, or robbing the store, I can't tell any more!
I thought this appropriate:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tool of Society
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Could you please post those?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tool of Society
So; just did a little checking/registering. CCP has retroactively banned all 35 of my "OLD accounts" who where inactive since sep 2014. [I am also the boxer they banned for talking on their forumns.] Got proof for both. So guys; Its been awhile, and i've done my homework on this; are you aware CCP has been sued once before over power of 2? by a female law student? who won and got settled out of court? [hint; UCC law]. Are you guys ready to give up and just enter in a mass-tort [mass sueing]? Anyways; to the CCP trolling here; Take my personas name[Andrivullar] off your damn monument. Illegal use of intellectual property. As you can plainly see with a quick google, the name belongs to me longer than CCPs been alive. ;)
E1: it has absolutely no ability to add any game time.
how dare you run a 3rd party program like a computer OS on your eve client
shame on you
You should run EVE as your computer OS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4bZm2-gTwE NMCQuote:
Originally Posted by brammator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZahhEjfAso NCO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZz_5dI6fgM OTA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pYOv7T6bug old NM video post jan 1st OTA. I could do the NM version much quicker now since I've figured out some stuff that would improve the time. I haven't done more NM videos due to concern over a possible mistaken ban.
I've gotten a response saying that windows 8 is perfectly fine with a detailed list of eve requirements to run. So I've gotten a non answer as I wasn't concerned if eve could run on windows 8....
As far as I'm concerned [pain time] EvE is a sunken game. I mean retroactively banning inactive accounts? really? Its sad but man, i'm just ready to sue them. I'm tired of reading the ghettolords with IQs of shovels argue on the real forumns and circle logic. All i know is that CCP has overstepped their legal boundarys enough times a tort-suite could return our money and then some.
I'm still waiting on a response for my second petition. Hoping I got a script response on the first one.
I'm going to attempt to create a video that shows all my screens. Will post when I succeed.
Never been banned. Before and after changes. Don't know why its such an issue to follow their rules. :) We are playing their game.
If only they would publish a full set of rules for their game or enter into discussion about how they are interpreting their own rules!Quote:
Originally Posted by Krops
Well I got 35 accounts retro-actively banned that havent been active since sep 2014. So you tell me. [AFAIK, all for talking on the forums with a newbro account, cause they got tired of listening]. I've quit eve entirely since then, with only a small interruption due to wanting to check on progress[ what progress, CCP got their head so far up their own ass when it comes out it'll go "pop!" on the way out /eyeroll] I'm still of the opinion those that are in my position who have played for awhile and know the legal going on; still should sue this company[under US/UCC law]. they don't give a damn about honesty or human ingenuity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krops
Honestly in light of all the changes, i almost want to bot eve now and sell the isk[e1:eh, effort doe], for the irony of it; Complete active at keyboard player [pre 01-01-15] to completely vampiric bot] why should i have any remorse for them when they made me [an active, at keyboard player since i was 13 [2007] Worse than a bot just because i'm "too good". I'll share alittle secret for those who think its about isk faucets; high end trade produces the max end-game income. How do i know? because before my inactives where banned, my main trader had... well, not far from a T.
And I say all this with no fear; they've already banned my inactive main without giving a reason, and those that know me I'm kinda spiteful.