The Mercbeast Framework

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Originally Posted by Bloodcloud

Question:
1) Do i understand this correctly that this one DPS Key, effectively presses all keys on the clients at the "same time", and in the priority you specify the order of the skills/spells/attacks on the bars?
1a) what is your "key queue" time (or something like that) in the preferences of swtor ?
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2) pet attack is a toggle in the game. If you press it two times in a row, the pet stops attacking!!

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For your questions 1 and 1a, youre correct. Mercbeasts setup uses one button to send key presses in game, as a alternative to no in-game macro system. You can set each action to delay x amount of time. Soooo, "it depends". Whatever skills or attacks in game you want to use as a combo key, and this is obviously dependent on what class you play, and how you want to play it. This is your spamable key. And yes, the companion attack is a toggle. its not a spamable key. You press it and they go.


Now, personally, this is not how I currently have my game set up. I altered from Mercbeasts framework and developed my own from Mosg's "Holy Grail", and Remanz Clickbar healing. I like to press each button for each skill or attack. (to be fair), I do have some combo keymaps set up.

I created a DPS1 through DPS6 and these are my regular "go to" skills. Then I just setup the in game skills with the particular slot and press what i need.

Briefly, mine looks like this...

Keymaps
+ Apps Control (set)
- Target Me
- Heal Me
- Heal Other
- Assist Me
- Follow Me
- Companion Attack
- CC Ability 1
- CC Ability 2
- OShit
+ Apps Warrior (set)
- DPS1
- DPS2
- DPS3
- DPS4
- DPS5
- DPS6
- DPS7
- Follow Jump (no action)
+ Apps Sorcerer (set)
- DPS1
- DPS2
- DPS3
- DPS4
- DPS5
- DPS6
- DPS7
- Follow Jump (no action)

I'm not being able to use the what you called NON-STANDARD KEYMAPS.

It just simply keeps spamming Affliction (Instant dot, no CD, 21s duration).

I created a mapped key, two steps:
Step 1:
4 (my Aff bind) - target Others in ATG (as my main is an assassin tank)
Checked Do not advance to next step for a t least 21s
Step 2:
Same as Step 1

Maybe the problem is there, don't know but that's the way I understood it.

Any help is very welcome :).
Thank you.
A.

whats your keypress action set to? "off (Default)" or "on"

Is this a multistep or multi action keymap action?

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Originally Posted by Apps

whats your keypress action set to? "off (Default)" or "on"

Is this a multistep or multi action keymap action?

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Thank you Apps - it's set to off (Default) and execute a step released (default)

I'm trying to replicate Merc's setup, so I guess it's the second type, one keymap, mutiple keys pressed at the same time.

The mapped key I mention as an example is being called by my dps bind (as per OPs example of the corrosive dart)

There's this expression in the OP "Open that keymap up, click on steps and add another step. " which makes me assume we have two steps on that keymap that do exactly the same (since we already created one while setting up the keys too). There might be a problem with my understanding here but even so, I tried to do the same with only one step and it didn't work either

Cheers,
A.

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Originally Posted by Altsoba

Thank you Apps - it's set to off (Default) and execute a step released (default)

I'm trying to replicate Merc's setup, so I guess it's the second type, one keymap, mutiple keys pressed at the same time.

The mapped key I mention as an example is being called by my dps bind (as per OPs example of the corrosive dart)

There's this expression in the OP "Open that keymap up, click on steps and add another step. " which makes me assume we have two steps on that keymap that do exactly the same. There might be a problem with my understanding here but even so, I tried to do the same with only one step and it didn't work either

Cheers,
A.

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K i would first start by changing that and then change the pull down menu just below it to "Pressed or Released". So that when you do step one, its press.. and when you release the key, it does step two.

in step one, you want to be sure your actions.. (because there are multiple actions here) that youre sending them all to the appropriate window.

(I dont use ATG's anymore since its easier to just make a keyset for a particular window given Im running dissimilar classes.)

Anyway, you also want to make sure you have the “do not pass” checkboxs clicked. As per this note.

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Originally Posted by ”Mercbeast”

My DPS rotation is simply a priority system. I create a Mosg2 style spam hotkey. This hotkey will have two steps. I also check all the do not pass boxes on the second step and set it to not pass to the next step for 1.5s (I adjust this as my haste rating increases).

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If it were me, I wouldn’t use the ATG, and instead use the Character Slot X as the target window… .but that’s only if you are using dissimilar classes. If all the classes are the same, then you really don’t even need the ATG at all. You can just use “Window all w/o Current” or “Window all w/current”

Did all the changes, still not working :/

I have the feeling that I'm missing something really basic here...

Ok, so I decided to make a crash test :p and the problem is within the affliction key map itself.

Here's what I did:

I created a new mapped key;
Hotkey XPRO-35
Hold any Keystroke... Off
Execute a step when... pressed or released

Advanced - leave as default

Created Step 1:
Keystroke action -> 4 (my affliction bind) -> self
Do not advance to the next step -> Checked
...for at least -> Checked
21s
and only trigger once -> Unchecked

Created Step 2:
Keystroke action -> 4 (my affliction bind) -> self
Do not advance to the next step -> Checked
...for at least -> Checked
21s
and only trigger once -> Unchecked

So the goal here is to go to the client of one of my Sorcerers and do it all from there (that's why I'm using self and binded a Hotkey).

It keeps spamming Affliction... Should it? Guess it should as it is doing it, so mustbe doing something wrong why and sure don't want it ^^

ok, so is the XPRO-35 a mouse button or something? based upon what you typed, when you press your hotkey "XPRO-35" once...your toons should press the 4 key once, and then as soon as you release the key, it will press 4 again... then 21 seconds later another 4.

Try this. lets make a little test of something simple, and then you can apply what you see here to what you want your game to do. Lets make a NEW mapped key. Make your hotkey something you arent using in game.. but a standard key with no combo... like the "Home" key.

hotkey is "Home"
Hold keystroke is "off"
choose "Pressed or Released"

Do New keystroke action
step one
-action
do new mapped key action
4-> self
(set do not advance to 1.5)
do new mapped key action (right click on the word "action" just above the key you just did)
5->self (this is just a test to see if the key action is working... i dont know what you have on "5" so lets just assume its a buff or something)
(set do not advance to 1.5)

Step two
-action
do new mapped key action
TAB-> self
do new mapped key action
X-> Self

Save and export.
click on a target (something you can kill solo)
and press your Home key.

what should happen is... you should cast affliction, then your action (whatever is on 5)
and then immediately target the next closest hostel and sit down.

Once you confirm this works, you should be able to eliminate variables as to why your DPS key you made from mercbeast isnt working.. make sense?

The X-PRO35 is from a X-KEYS Keyboard.

I even did something simpler (targeting an alt in duel):

Hotkey 4 (X-PRO35 worked too)
Hold any Keystroke... Off
Execute a step when... pressed or released

Advanced - leave as default

Created Step 1:
Keystroke action -> 4 (my affliction bind) -> self
Do not advance to the next step -> Unchecked
...for at least -> Unchecked
default value
and only trigger once -> Unchecked

Created Step 2:
Keystroke action -> 0 (buff) -> self
Do not advance to the next step -> Checked
...for at least -> Checked
21s
and only trigger once -> Unchecked

And it worked. I spammed buff whenever it was ready and casted Affliction every 21s.

Which makes sense, leaving it free to proceed to next step (buff) and only lock on it and then going to step 1 again after the lock.

Now, why won't it work having two steps of Affliction both with 21s lock?

likely because the attack / skill uses the same GCD. the time between press and release is what? tenths of a second? You wont be able to notice when its the press action or the release action thats firing. It wont run automatically, (of course). so when you press it once and release, it could still be in the mode of the 21 seconds from the initial press, so the release gets skipped.

So instead of trying to use the same attack / skill, you wouldnt be any better off than if you just did a single step action and just spammed the key.

I.e. the software isnt going to allow you to automate and thus break any ToU.


BTW, good job workin out your different variables. :)

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Originally Posted by Apps

likely because the attack / skill uses the same GCD. the time between press and release is what? tenths of a second? You wont be able to notice when its the press action or the release action thats firing. It wont run automatically, (of course). so when you press it once and release, it could still be in the mode of the 21 seconds from the initial press, so the release gets skipped.

So instead of trying to use the same attack / skill, you wouldnt be any better off than if you just did a single step action and just spammed the key.

I.e. the software isnt going to allow you to automate and thus break any ToU.


BTW, good job workin out your different variables. :)

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Thanks again mate.
Thing is I don't want to spam Affliction as it doesn't have a CD it's a dot with a duration. It's exactly like the example given on the op for the corrosive dart. So if Merc was able to do it, I want to do it too as it largely optimizes my dps cycle and reduces the amount of keys needed.

What is frustrating is that it seems really straightforward from theop explanation and it just won't work for me.
Well, that or any other way for achieving same result of course.