Patch 3.3.3 PTR Notes Here Please Keep PTR Discussion In This Thread

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Originally Posted by Shodokan

I've been doing a bit of testing.... i get about 6k honor per win now in most bgs. Since most bgs take under 20 minuets per we could be looking at 2 gems per hour with just honor per character. About 1500g on my server. Killing people certainly beats killings mobs.

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Are you sure? That number seems pretty high...I thought AV was only about 2K for a win.

Cheers,
S.

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Originally Posted by Stealthy

Are you sure? That number seems pretty high...I thought AV was only about 2K for a win.

Cheers,
S.

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Yeah I'm sure. At least for the few games i did do. I might just be retarded and read my honor wrong, but i'm about 90% sure.

I take it that this is not on the ptr but on the live server that you tested? I've played 500 AV games in the last 3 months with - since i dinged 80 - more than 75% win ratio. Ranging from rushes to massive turtles and i've never seen anything going above 3k honor. If you get 2k+ it was a good run.

Not to mention that AV is far from predictable to see it as an income.

On a side note: the bosses in AV are so easy to tank for any decent geared tank that many people prefer to do a blitz. Which gives you just a few 100 honor. With the queue times, that's a rather dumb strategy . Unfortunately none seems to understand that. Not to mention that if both the alliance and horde rush without any defence, it's always the alliance who will win, regardless of the group make ups or dps. The map favours them.

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Originally Posted by zenga

I take it that this is not on the ptr but on the live server that you tested? I've played 500 AV games in the last 3 months with - since i dinged 80 - more than 75% win ratio. Ranging from rushes to massive turtles and i've never seen anything going above 3k honor. If you get 2k+ it was a good run.

Not to mention that AV is far from predictable to see it as an income.

On a side note: the bosses in AV are so easy to tank for any decent geared tank that many people prefer to do a blitz. Which gives you just a few 100 honor. With the queue times, that's a rather dumb strategy . Unfortunately none seems to understand that. Not to mention that if both the alliance and horde rush without any defence, it's always the alliance who will win, regardless of the group make ups or dps. The map favours them.

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I've talked to quite a few people who use the PTR religiously and they have reported to me they are also getting between 3 and 6k per BG, depending on win or loss. All these people do is PVP. So like i said, i could be wrong but it seems this is the case.

Sam... You need a level 80 to be "raid ready"... at your current pace I bet cataclysm will be out before you get even 5 of your 36 to 80... maybe you'll never ever reach level cap... so why worry about "raid gear"...

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Originally Posted by Ughmahedhurtz

/agree

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+1

number of times, teleported into occ only to find that one of the others has quit... usually a tank or a healer... then comes the inevitable wait for a replacement...

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Originally Posted by Shodokan

I've talked to quite a few people who use the PTR religiously and they have reported to me they are also getting between 3 and 6k per BG, depending on win or loss. All these people do is PVP. So like i said, i could be wrong but it seems this is the case.

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wait ... you get that number on the ptr? i don't know about that, but what i understood from your post was that you get that on the current live server. My example / argumentation was for the current live server, not the ptr.

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Originally Posted by zenga

wait ... you get that number on the ptr? i don't know about that, but what i understood from your post was that you get that on the current live server. My example / argumentation was for the current live server, not the ptr.

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Ooh hell no, i don't even do bgs on live right now.

So currently, PTR is roughly 3x the honor for wins/losses, as the live servers.

I wonder if the gems will cost the same amount of honor, in which case we get a lot more for the same time, and the value of the gems will decrease as there are more of them on the market.... or if the cost will be adjusted upwards, so its about the same number of gems per time played, in which case the value of the gems would be about the same.

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Originally Posted by Ualaa

So currently, PTR is roughly 3x the honor for wins/losses, as the live servers.

I wonder if the gems will cost the same amount of honor, in which case we get a lot more for the same time, and the value of the gems will decrease as there are more of them on the market.... or if the cost will be adjusted upwards, so its about the same number of gems per time played, in which case the value of the gems would be about the same.

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It ends up being about 2x AVERAGE. Or so. So yes there will be a few more gems. But they will almost nearly all be rubies. Which are the least profitable from an alchemist's perspective on many servers. Example: My server scarlet ruby are 30g, and eternal fire are 20g. So it is 50g to make a ruby. This means that i will be making approximately 100g profit. Compared to a majestic zircon which sells for 150 uncut like the scarlet ruby to a few buyers i have but costs nearly 30g less to create.