Patch 3.3.3 PTR Notes Here Please Keep PTR Discussion In This Thread

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Originally Posted by Fursphere

You only get if you are the first (or second?) to leave. So it prevents people from being dickheads. I'd be fine with it being an hour.

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Well, if you are all five of the toons in the group.
You're pretty much stuck with the heroic you are given.

Running to the first boss.
Or just leaving and re-queueing for another is less of an option now.



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If the increased timer is only for leaving the party, and not for just leaving the instance...
Then that's not a penalty for boxers, just for one-boxers.

In that case, I welcome it...
It gives us a good option to run say 3x new DPS and gear them up.
We cannot be voted out, if they don't like boxers.
And the Tank/Healer cannot ditch the group just because they dislike boxers.

Lucky me that i saved all my Frozen orbs =D...

I have 316 off them in my Guildbank....never vendored them when the prices on Ah was like 3g each.... just keept saving them....

Well ... lucky I didnt spend effort getting up my mining on two toons like I planed.

Kinda sux I leveled up 5 tailors .... dang what a waste of time. But what a hassel going to that maw place without flying .... Dang I sold my bejewed wizards bracers for like 2.5K and made a merlins robe all hot to sell for like 4.5K and its going to tank ... bleh.

Well logically the main need for gold is to gear guys, with these changes I can gear up all my guys really easy to 216 / 245 item levels so on the one hand Ill make WAY less gold but on the other hand Ill gear my guys to "ready for raiding" level easy. This cuts the cost to gear all my guys like by what 70 percent lol. But Ill be making 70 percent less in AH for sure.

I still cannot understand why you are all talking about "JC" being a money maker. I make the icy prisim every cooldown but find that the cut gems go for about the same as the raw gem. Making small money with the emerald chocker and the mana something ring but I dont see anything at 450 worth to make real gold from. The only money maker is the neck that takes the jaggel perals but its really low level.

Boy these are some BIG changes; people who have gold now are going to be way better off then those who have to earn it later.

So after the patch then the only profession that would benifit from more then one character is alchmey so I guess enginerring (pvp) / alchmey is the way to go for most my guys.


You know thinking about it a bit more it would be stupid to remove my tailoring as although WOTLK items is not on cool down I would think its more likely then not that Cataclysum items will have a cooldown when its released.

Sam most likely that is the case if the same trend the last 2 expansion have followed is followed again.

JC is an amazing money maker for a boxer mainly because you can aquire so many epic gems for little work. ie. if you have 5 characters you can go and do Wintergrasp and all its quests and make about 30k honor per character. Thats 15 epic gems that sell for 150-250g ea once they are cut.

Once you run out of things to buy with Tirumph Badges you can also buy off-color epic gems for 10 badges each and then sell those as well.

If you make a 5v5 arena team and lose 10 matches a week you gain 345 Arena Points per character. You could theroetically do this with 15 characters which sounds like you have the ability to do this with all your toons. 100 Arena Points gives 2k Honor. So every few weeks thats a bunch more epic gems.

Plus all your stonekeeper shards and wintergrasp victory tokens can buy nonor once again.

So using all that honor and badges you can make large amounts of gold a week just by having 1 single character that knows a lot of JC recipes. If you had alot of Alchemists you could use x-mute master to make even more epic gems.

This is why ppl say JC is the money maker. Personally I like to have one of just about every profession availible in my team so that come the expansion when you need a leatherworker/blacksmith/tailor to rearrange the stat points on our gear to min/max it I will not need to find someoene to do this for me.

Anyawy i went way off-topic. I love the Shaman changes to Elemental Oath. I'm hoping Destruction gets a little more loving too as they keep talking about how its too weak atm in end-game raids. :)

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Originally Posted by Slats

Sam most likely that is the case if the same trend the last 2 expansion have followed is followed again.

JC is an amazing money maker for a boxer mainly because you can aquire so many epic gems for little work. ie. if you have 5 characters you can go and do Wintergrasp and all its quests and make about 30k honor per character. Thats 15 epic gems that sell for 150-250g ea once they are cut.

Once you run out of things to buy with Tirumph Badges you can also buy off-color epic gems for 10 badges each and then sell those as well.

If you make a 5v5 arena team and lose 10 matches a week you gain 345 Arena Points per character. You could theroetically do this with 15 characters which sounds like you have the ability to do this with all your toons. 100 Arena Points gives 2k Honor. So every few weeks thats a bunch more epic gems.

Plus all your stonekeeper shards and wintergrasp victory tokens can buy nonor once again.

So using all that honor and badges you can make large amounts of gold a week just by having 1 single character that knows a lot of JC recipes. If you had alot of Alchemists you could use x-mute master to make even more epic gems.

This is why ppl say JC is the money maker. Personally I like to have one of just about every profession availible in my team so that come the expansion when you need a leatherworker/blacksmith/tailor to rearrange the stat points on our gear to min/max it I will not need to find someoene to do this for me.

Anyawy i went way off-topic. I love the Shaman changes to Elemental Oath. I'm hoping Destruction gets a little more loving too as they keep talking about how its too weak atm in end-game raids. :)

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Don't forget daily 25 points from daily pvp quests... if you really wanna get into maximum amount, and include the honor you get from these BG's as well.

I have read this twice and did not find any clue as to when it will go live. Need to get moving on some things and grab some mats which will change value soon.

Cardinal Ruby sells for like 190G instantly uncut. Cut it sells for 220G (if that), 1-2 days after i put it out .......

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

Cardinal Ruby sells for like 190G instantly uncut. Cut it sells for 220G (if that), 1-2 days after i put it out .......

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Yes but it only costs around 60g to make, personally Epic Gems make me great money but its not the cutting its the supplying most people who make loads from Epic gems have many Alch's. I have 4 Alchs and 2 Jewcrafters, 1 jewelcrafter to supply me with dragons eye's the other to cut gems.

putting out 4 to 8 epic gems a day never leaving Dal is easy money, then cutting them for the extra 20 to 50g profit on top of the raw gem is just gravy.

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Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker

Well ... lucky I didnt spend effort getting up my mining on two toons like I planed.

Kinda sux I leveled up 5 tailors .... dang what a waste of time. But what a hassel going to that maw place without flying .... Dang I sold my bejewed wizards bracers for like 2.5K and made a merlins robe all hot to sell for like 4.5K and its going to tank ... bleh.

Well logically the main need for gold is to gear guys, with these changes I can gear up all my guys really easy to 216 / 245 item levels so on the one hand Ill make WAY less gold but on the other hand Ill gear my guys to "ready for raiding" level easy. This cuts the cost to gear all my guys like by what 70 percent lol. But Ill be making 70 percent less in AH for sure.

I still cannot understand why you are all talking about "JC" being a money maker. I make the icy prisim every cooldown but find that the cut gems go for about the same as the raw gem. Making small money with the emerald chocker and the mana something ring but I dont see anything at 450 worth to make real gold from. The only money maker is the neck that takes the jaggel perals but its really low level.

Boy these are some BIG changes; people who have gold now are going to be way better off then those who have to earn it later.

So after the patch then the only profession that would benifit from more then one character is alchmey so I guess enginerring (pvp) / alchmey is the way to go for most my guys.


You know thinking about it a bit more it would be stupid to remove my tailoring as although WOTLK items is not on cool down I would think its more likely then not that Cataclysum items will have a cooldown when its released.

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Don't forget that you will now be able to sell your cooldown on the 22 slot bag, or make bags to sell, with the cloth going down in price.
I'm not sure if the price of the bags will go down or up with the change though.

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Originally Posted by Maxion

Don't forget that you will now be able to sell your cooldown on the 22 slot bag, or make bags to sell, with the cloth going down in price.
I'm not sure if the price of the bags will go down or up with the change though.

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There are way too many ways to get 22 slot bags now though. Heroic PoS, ony, sarth.... and at least on my server there are never many bags up and when they are... they are only like 400g.

Also... I've been doing a bit of testing.... i get about 6k honor per win now in most bgs. Since most bgs take under 20 minuets per we could be looking at 2 gems per hour with just honor per character. About 1500g on my server. Killing people certainly beats killings mobs.