manged to get into a arena game today Follow works until the same thing when your in combat with someone,
As a caster team its very easy to get LOS.
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manged to get into a arena game today Follow works until the same thing when your in combat with someone,
As a caster team its very easy to get LOS.
But... I was on a break getting ready to 10 box BFA....
What is this mess!
In other news, RP server will not use the phasing tech and will see both pve and pvp players in the same phase! (I would think follow is axed at map level and this would be the only way to stop a full out ban of follow that they could do!!)
As well all this is on the pepatch!!
That isn't what Ion said in the Q&A...Quote:
Originally Posted by ebony
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There's a lot of confusion about War Mode on RP realms. How will it work?
Except in cases of extreme load, RP realms will not shard as RP communities are more tight knit. For War Mode, it is going to work along the same times. If you are on a RP server and turn on War Mode, you will only see other players of your server that have War Mode turned on.
Oh...i read that wrong then. Mmo-champ had it worded differently to that sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRai
This makes sense. I guess melee is the only game in town anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebony
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Originally Posted by sethlan
That's all I've been doing in Legion =D.
As soon as I can I'm turning war mode off. Going my own way in PvE and never looking back. I love WoW but the way Blizzard has handled PvP in all areas has been an absolute failure. It seems like they can't get it right and little wonder considering their priorities.
And yet people still keep giving them money... I came to do multi boxing pvp and after reading this. I'm glad i had not spent any money yet. I'm going to look in to getting a refund for bfa for my single account at this point. I'm done giving a company money that keeps ruining its own game and genre.
Perhaps some multiboxers enjoy other aspects of the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemrodh
Personally, this change doesn't affect my multiboxing playstyle at all. That doesn't mean I'm not sympathetic, but I'm also not unsubscribing, or calling for others to either. Either way, there are too few multiboxers that play who, if unsubscribed en masse, could swing any policy change in their favor, and you're going to be hard-pressed to get solo players to "join your cause" seeing as most of them don't want us in PvP in the first place.
I am actually a solo player. I remember when multi-boxing was just starting. I wanted to do it with wow before I stopped playing. the game has become boring and stagnant to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRai
My friends who still find it fun refuse to find another game/try another game/look at another game so here i am bored out of my mind i was hoping that finally putting my hand in to multi-boxing would bring the fun back. And with the focus moving towards pvp that would remove a large amount of content i wouldn't be able to do ..and to find out they removed the follow function.. just annoying they say "we love multiboxers and there money" but now shut you out of 1/3 of the game.
So while I'm happy people are still enjoying it. I still feel over the years they've ruined a lot, lost objectivity of what a game should be.
anyways part rant part vent.. completely displeased with blizzard at this point. GL HF.
Also thank you for your time and sympathy.
If warfronts don't allow for follow and the dungeon grind sucks then I'll probably cut my subscription to 3 or 6 months of the entire 2 year term. I've done it before. I suspect most of us have voted with our wallets on this subject.
Thing is WoW isn't just PvP. I like the lore at this point and running dungeons without needing other people who break my enjoyment is worth the cost of paying multiple subscriptions. However long that enjoyment lasts I'll fund it. When it stops being fun I won't pay for it. Simple as that. I suspect your friends find enjoyment in it that you don't and let me tell you if I wasn't multiboxing I'd have quit WoW years ago. So maybe the answer is to give it a whirl in PvE and see if that spices it up for you.
Warfonts are nothing to do with pvp the other side are npc only one side have it at a time, follow is fine there..
Islands are the same apart from the pvp ones
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Originally Posted by ebony
Yep figured as much. Looking forward to both.
And your Jamba updates :D
I'm late to responding, since I just read the news about the pvp follow thing.
I just wanted to chime in and say that for me, this doesn't change anything about my multiboxing, neither my future enjoyment of it nor the extent. PErsonally, I don't mbox for pvp, and it seems that for every other aspect of the game, nothing has really changed.
So for me, I'll just keep on boxing as usual.
I'm glad we get to try this starting tomorrow with the pre-patch! Might PVP on my melee toons more than my hunters.
This is what I cant wait to try looks like fun times =) as far as the PvP I can live with it or with out it its nice to have an option now for those who want to level in peace =) any ways I will keep on keeping on in BFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebony
Looking for anyone either streaming or uploading content to youtube/whatever to see how bad the new pvp-follow is.
Edit: I mean, hoping someone is using the brew pup or soul-trader and making it work.
Sigh, I don't read anything about betas at all, so this follow change caught me out on live today. Makes me kind of sad, I really liked dual-boxing on a pvp server as I liked the little skirmishes and general feeling of danger these servers produced.
RIP WPVP :( (for me at least)
I haven't tried anything yet as I'm still crying over some of the class changes which broke my teams haha. But seriously, I'm waiting for addons to be updated :P
I got into warmode with my 5 box and indeed once you engage in pvp you cant be followed. At least the blow is lessened with the fact that 110s cant 1 shot you anymore. Managed to kill a couple. Tanks are pretty unkillable though.
djensen, do you have the brew pup? Can you tell us if it functions?
I dont, Ill pick it up today and try
So brew pup works until you get the mug. Once youve looted him you cant interact with him again until you have drank or destroy the drink. So guess youre stuck with soul trader, mount, or possibly stuffing your bags so you cannot loot the mug?
The stuffing your bags worked. I moved everything to backpack and as long as you cant loot the dog you can continue to IWT. Ill try to find some pvp and see if you can IWT during. To macro the pup you cant a straight /target Alterac Brew-Pup. I have to set pup as focus and then make a /target [target=focus] and that allows me to target pup and IWT. Ive always wanted a soul trader and theyre only 400k on my server so im going to buy 1. Ill report back with its results.
Alright. Tested. IWT on both pup and trader works while in PVP combat. But each has a pro and con. The pup being you need to be unable to loot him in order to keep IWT with him. THe trader being that when you IWT he opens a dialogue and pauses not moving, meaning your toons can get left behind talking to him. I would say the pup is superior if youre on full bags and dont mind not looting, aka in most "purposeful" wpvp situations. Unless theres an addon that can block vendor dialogue windows from opening the soul trader is good, but the chance of your toons stopping and talking and falling behind is a problem. And the main problem with both of these is that you have to switch from your enemy target, to the pet to IWT, then back to the target to resume dps. Unless theres a way to IWT with focus?
Thanks so much for running it down djensen!
I've used the soul-trader before right after the loss of follow in BGs. The problem with him is that once someone opens dialogue with him, he stops briefly.
With the brew-pup, can't you just add a deleteitem macro to your follow macro? There are addons that also will auto-delete items when you loot them, I think. I don't remember the name. Lemme go see!
Edit:
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/easyloot
That will let you auto delete it when it pops in your bags. Check and see if it'll work?
2 problems. 1, the addon doesnt seem to work, probably because of the update. 2, when destroying the brew, there appears to be a 5 sec cooldown before you can loot the pup again. When you consume the drink though, you can instantly reloot the pup sometimes. SOmetimes you can immediatly grab another brew, other times you have to wait 5 seconds. Drinking also runs the risk of your toons pausing to throw up or be dazed. So looks like your best bet is getting your followers smashed, spamming them to drink and IWT, or use the pup with full bags. If you plan to go wpvp, pup with full bags best from what im seeing. If you are questing in warmode and might get attacked, soul trader.
Hrm, could also try this macro on your follow key?
/run for bag=0,4,1 do for slot=1,36,1 do local name=GetContainerItemLink(bag,slot);if (name and string.find(name,"Item1")) or (name and string.find(name,"Item2")) then PickupContainerItem(bag,slot);DeleteCursorItem();e nd;end;end
You have to include the exact item name in the quotes.
Alright, tried on my 5 hunters a bit and it's hard just because you cannot rotate them easily. I will have to try on my tank teams and rogues see how it is, I feel like melee will be easier to manage in pvp.
Hunter pet seems to bug and keep you in pvp, enemy or not, so i had to dismiss them to finally be able to follow proprely. IWT on Melee team is the way to go.
SO I had to edit the macro but this worksQuote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
/run for b = 0, 4 do for s = 1, GetContainerNumSlots(b) do local l = GetContainerItemLink(b, s) if l and l:find("Mulled Alterac Brandy") then PickupContainerItem(b, s) DeleteCursorItem() end end end
Same issue though is that the pup only insta respawns the brew 80ish percent of the time.
Seems like the best plan then is melee with IWT and use the brew pup or trader to re-position sparingly.
Just my 2 cents.. back in the day when /follow worked in pvp, i used to play a lot. I decided to stop however when they removed that possibility. I didnt dare to IWT with pets etc, as that felt like a sneaking way to avoid blizzard purpose: to not let "/follow" be possible.
So have anyone got banned for using pets/vendors since they implented the /follow removal? Just curious.
NopeQuote:
Originally Posted by WOWBOX40
Was excited, turned on war mode.. sham/4x hunter. It's just rough to say the least. It's sort of doable but too much of a hassle. I guess the consolation prize is PvP in wow isn't what it used to be anyways.
Just turned off war mode, found the issue was the hunter pets are somehow perma stuck in combat, even when I was in town. Felt just wrong...
As Mirai posted, they could have just removed /follow from warmode. I don't think anyone is going to get banned over this.
Yeah the team i was testing with had a lock and ele shaman. Def is hard to get them aimed so i try to make sure i keep enemies in front if i can. /spit and /flirt sometimes gets their attention. Definitely thinking sbout firing up thr old pally 4 dk team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ellay
All melee team is alot better but keep in mind spamming IWT isn't good either the second the target dies your toons run of in different directionsQuote:
Originally Posted by djensen2010
You need to keybind all stop aswell cause they won't follow right away, takes a while for the follow master kicks in again
You could play like pally tank or healer with 4 unholy dks making the dks semi ranged classes but still can IWT once a while to catch up target when the run off, also castsequence dk grip is a really good help in wpvp / warmode
Note. Making your dks unholy gives you a extra grip from abomination pets
I definitely see what youre saying. I jus have most of my follow and interact keys on my mouse (razer naga) so its easy to press attack then quickly spam IWT on pet. That way once the run all over, so long as they dont get too far, theyre jus run back to the pet.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnknownsTM
Ive always been biased towards frost because its so brain dead that its easy to box but the changes to unholy might make it easier to set up a dps rotation. Ill definitely try some time in the future. You can always spam howling blast at range without IWT if you wanna sit back and do damage. And being DK, some of the hassle of IWT can be eliminated with grip.
I did some invasion leveling yesterday with my 5x108 aff locks which resulted in good amount of pvp, and it was sooo much fun after the months of constant one shots from geared 110s. They werent able to kill me, and I didnt have any problems to kill them. Follow broke up the moment I was flagged pvp, but few seconds after the opponents was killed it was lifted and follow worked again. all in all, I was just sitting there like ducks waiting to get anihilated, but it was the other way round.
Follow seems to come back a bit on my rogue teams, but it seem to break again, works on and off for a bit then it works. Feels like something keeps us PVP activated for a while. Could be party buffs and auras? I think i'll stick to doing PVP in Battlegrounds when i'm ready for the hassle rather than while i'm just trying to quest.
How's the balance for tanks vs not? I left about two months after the Argus raid came out, and Rogues/Mages could one-shot any number of grouped non-tanks, and came close to one-shotting tanks.
I've been thinking more about follow and maybe it's something specific to hunters, but yesterday I ran into some players in Argus while doing some World Quests and dispatched them, though it was messy on my part as my auto face IWT wasn't setup or working properly. I portaled back to the main ship and auto follow was still broken, it would work for a hot second and then break, and kept repeating. I'm assuming no one else is experiencing something to that degree?
It'd be nice if there was a way to petition this to find out their reasoning behind turning this off in general, from what I have gathered it was to maybe combat the 25+ boxers that would roam as a death ball. You'd think capping the amount of followers would be an easy fix, or if there is > 20 people in a 10 yard radius follow doesn't work.
I just want my follow back! not pvping at all is like a piece of the game is gone.
*Edit*
I took a look at the blizzard general forums, and it appears the general population is happy with this change, they've been burned in the past by multiboxing (even though it's such a small community, I suppose it just sticks out).