why not just try incursions? i mean do a little searching and see what it normally takes. i havent done them personally. But i was doing lvl 4 missions with 5 t1 cruisers. You arent even supposed to be able to have a cruiser in there for fear of dieing. its fun just train up and try stuff.
I've been multi-boxing in EVE for a very long time and I would like to give you my first hand experience on the best methods of obtaining the ultimate isk Faucet :P.
I started out as mining in 0.0, I had allot of isk and bought characters, 15 hulk pilots which back then it took roughly 2 hours and 24 min to completely mine out a Large Asteroid Cluster worth around 900m-1b (with an orca boosting T1 links this was before T2 links). With the 15 hulks, I had my main in a tengu tanking rats, orca pilot hauling, orca pilot boosting (or rorqual if I'm crushing at the same time), I had a high sec hauling character (npc corp) which happened to have all nav skills 5 and able to fly my Rhea when I hand it off in low sec to take to high sec (war decs). I had other misc characters like a complete cyno route to move my minerals to high sec to sell, if you want to build you're going to turn the game into a job, better off having someone you trust do the building (don't do that haha). Depending on how deep you are in space the logistics can be a nightmare and require allot of balls to do it solo. I mined 5 cyno jumps away from high sec and the 500+ cyno's I light were in neut/red space with no station to dock in. I had to bring a carrier to drop ozone to each cyno alt with the Rhea (each cyno alt had 2 webs to instantly warp away the carrier/JF). The logistic headache is a requirement if you feel you want to mine that kind of bulk and do it Solo. I do have a right hand man who did help me build a few super carriers (nice profit I might add), but after my retarded alliance lost a couple baby titans I stopped that operation quickly haha.
With the amount I mined in high sec I was making roughly 30b+ a month minimum (this was before burn jita/alloys being removed from game now It would be way more) and with 21 accounts times 500m per plex almost made it not worth it. BUT! I changed it up; ratting. While mining I trained my toons into Domi's and most already flew carriers. All my toons already had amazing drone skills so it worked out perfectly, I was making roughly 400M+ per hour and hardly had to do anything, carrier warps in gets aggro >> domi's warp in put sentries on guard on the carrier, then swap to your other team. It worked great untill I moved across the country and got caught up in life, but screw that back to multi-boxing eve :D.
Incursions if done right is the second best option for farming isk, the only problem is the isk dump and skill requirements per character. Most ISN groups are in Team speak and require you to be in team speak, the chance they will let someone bring alts is very low, no matter how good your ISboxing ability is. Even if you were to get a pickup group to fill the slots you lack ISN will drop into your incursion and clear it faster than you. You will need to be able to hit targets at range, and at close range while webbing (loki is great for that in case you are running vindi's but should have anyways). I have enough toons to fly 8 machs 3 logi and 1 off grid tengu boosting, but can I manage ammo/ships with different projectiles to hit different ranges while making sure my 4b per character never gets blown? Two answers for this: yes your Multi-tasking ability is godly or you have a friend to 2 or three box your logistic ships while you handle all the targets your self. Which still is no easy feat considering you have long range and short range targets to hit and every incursion is random with spawns. As nice as it would be to be able to load up on auto cannons and alpha everything it sadly doesn't work that way anymore :(. Yes I've dived into incursion multi-boxing and it's too reliant on having a partner and when another group drops in on you it's no fun trying to race.Quote:
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Best isk in the game and I'm sure somewhere on this forum someone already said it: "Wormholes". There are videos all over YouTube with 4-5 tengu's doing class 4-6 wormholes. You can set each one up with 1 large remote shield rep and slowly take your targets down, it's what all my hardcore wormhole friends do and there is no reason why that can't be multi-boxed. It's not a lazy thing to go about though, you need to Dscan all the time while swapping around and switching your RR, the damage can spike pretty quickly if you're not on top of it. I've played around in wormholes but I'd prefer the politics of 0.0 space where I can monitor what's in local/Intel as well as defend against up to 40 battleships against my 15 pantheon carriers (it has happened and I lost nothing :D).
I love talking about new ways to challenge myself and others when it comes to multi-boxing, if anyone has any cool ideas feel free to hit me up in game my main is: Jayunit
My next project is bombing runs with up to 18 bombers in sync :).
Got any video footage of you mining 15 hulks? I thought my 8 were cool but you just shit all over me, haha.Quote:
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No sadly, but when I get this bomber idea off the ground I will probably have to record that for sure though :D.
What's your monitor/computer setup? I am probably returning to Eve soon, and this time will be using isboxer with my mining team. But since isboxer can't video feed across two computers, and I don't think my main can handle 10 Eves, I'll be using two computers.Quote:
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doz3rr, what sort of machine is it? I thought my machine would have trouble running a bunch of Eve's but it turns out I max out around 23 or so, and then only due to memory. If you have the settings adjusted right and turn off Aero in Windows you can get quite a few Eve's running. Aside from memory, my biggest limiter is monitor real estate.
And yes, this means I'm back boxing Eve ;) I'll be doing the most mundane thing you can box, mining Ice in high sec starting with 21 clients.
- Souca -
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I run two monitors (three when I'm doing more than just eve). My main monitor is 27 inches and I run my ISboxing team on that all 15 miners fit just fine and the extra space I generally have my Orca pilot behind my 15 characters not apart of ISboxer. My second monitor normally has my second team (22 inches) which is misc characters that are not used as much such as the Tengu that tanks, Rorqual crushing/boosting; I also monitor local on this monitor as well.
I'll have to dig through some old files to find a picture of my old setup, all my accounts are not active at the moment otherwise I would post now, I'm moving across the country again so I let everything run out.
As for my hardware: Originally I had a 920 I-7 (not overclocked) with 12 gigs of DDR3 ram and a 260 GTX (video card does not affect eve as much as other games I've noticed). I used to run a 240GT but ended up water-falling the 260 down to my ISboxing computer. I used this setup for Two years until two months Ago I fried the motherboard from Quad boxing Diablo 3 :P. That old setup used to run all my clients without any hiccups the CPU never went over 40% usage and ran Cool on air.
Now I'm running a 2011 Mobo I-7 Sandy bridge 6 core 32 gigs of ram and 2 460 GTX's (waterfall down from my main PC.) I would like to stretch this new PC out eventually and see how many EVE clients I can run at once. When I move back to California I'll turn my isk Faucet on and post my current Team.
If you are running older hardware I used to run a Dual Core 3.0 4 gigs of ram, Tiny Windows 7 and used to run 8 or 9 clients way back in the day and it worked fine.
I've restarted EVE recently too - unfortunately I can't multibox as I still don't have a decent rig but I'm attempting to make some ISKies via trading. I'll see how it goes.
Souca, keep an eye out for gankers, that many ships in one place is a juicy target.
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I thought I saw you a couple times. I'd be curious to hear how the trading goes.
As for gankers, the new changes to mining barges make them much harder to take out now, but even if I lose all my ships I can replace them easily enough with the iskies from ice mining. I don't intend to fly anything beyond a Retriever for a while since the extra ice you see from a Mackinaw now is only 5% at best.
- Souca -
Did they change any of the reqs for flying the mining barges when they changed their roles around? EVEMon still has the old reqs from what I can tell.