If they didn't remove follow then all the cool computer nerds would be at home playing WoW, instead of outside sharing their genius with the rest of the world.
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If they didn't remove follow then all the cool computer nerds would be at home playing WoW, instead of outside sharing their genius with the rest of the world.
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on the PTR follow seems to work in WSG now not sure if this is on live the other bg's i tryed av/eos it seems to say the same thing as before. not got any live accounts to test it on. maybe they added follow for RBG? and WSG is using the same map as the random play. Or maybe its a bug?
just letting you know anyway.
I think they might be reconsidering the change. I opened a ticket to express my disappointment and got a personal response including the statement, "the removal of the /follow command is something we are reconsidering due to the feedback we've gotten so far."
No offense, but being a brand new registered user as of today, I think we're going to need to see a screenshot of that ticket in order to not completely discredit what you're saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by neodon0513
I understand what you're saying. No offense taken. Here is a screenshot of the GM's response:
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Definitely no guarantees, but I see it as a glimmer of hope.
Regards
No offense, but being a brand new registered user as of today, I think we're going to need an image of the hard drive you've used to make that screenshot to make sure you didn't use photoshop, in order to not completely discredit what you're saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by neodon0513
I've already contacted Denzel Washington to see if I can borrow that time-folding device from the movie Deja Vu. We'll be able to watch me open the ticket response as it happened, and possibly even shine a laser pointer in my eye. That'll learn me.
To stay relevant to the topic, here is an interesting observation I made regarding CTM. You can CTM/IWT to a player if they are on a different realm. So, if you were to have all your multiboxing characters on different realms, you could set up a CTM/IWT spam system to follow the leader.
i will be trying this.Quote:
Originally Posted by neodon0513
this does not work (on the ptr anyway)
Some more recent evidence that Blizzard is possibly working on bringing back /follow to battlegrounds:
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Image courtesy of a fellow multiboxer who wishes to remain anonymous. :)
I'd probably resub for some pvp if they did.
I take what those GM say with a grain of salt. :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRai
I dunno guys, since they completely eliminated bots from battlegrounds by removing /follow, and everyone is having fun in PVP now that there's no multiboxers in battlegrounds, I see no reason why they would want to bring it back. Mission accomplished!
Just a simple cost-benefit analysis reveals how great of a change this was, I mean look at the numbers... by shaving off 1.3 million subscribers, they can now trim down their development AND customer service costs. Plus, Blizzard employees get profit sharing, so by trimming the size of their teams, each of the employees that Blizzard wants to keep around also stands to gain a higher percentage of the profit! All they really have to do is find another group of hardcore fans to eliminate from the game! Imagine if they could trim the WoW team to the size of the Hearthstone team; what a great move!
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Lax,
You rock. Thanks for helping me have some of the most fun I can remember. I loved boxing AV.
Just checking back because I heard Rift was going Free to Play and wondered what the state of boxing WoW was. I guess the Blizz stockholders may be interested if they had a 1.3 million subscriber drop. I've taken a break from boxing and bought a paddle board with my savings. It's pretty fun but in a different way.
Interesting they may bring /follow back to bgs. I don't think I'll come back to Blizz because of the way they treated us. Maybe if they apologize and promise not to crit backstab us again.
If they took it away once without notice in the middle of the night, there is nothing preventing them from doing so again. Anyone going back if they reverse the change keep that in mind before blowing a sizable amount of money to get boxing with wow again.
Life is a gamble, we all live once and we all die! Plain and simple, a guy can do whatever he wants/needs with his money :)Quote:
Originally Posted by flux1
If these rumors are true, it looks like taking /follow away from BGs hit them a lot harder than they expected. Let's wait and see...
Heh....I got a good chuckle out of that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lax
I find waiting for a bg to start with a group of bots the creepiest thing in the world. All those cold, dead eyes, staring back at me as I ADHD jump at the gate, so so creepy.
When people get sick of the solo game they do one of two things. They either leave the game for good (and likely the entire genre) or they find different ways to play it (aka multibox).
Some have the pockets deep enough to afford multiple subscriptions. Some don't. However I believe the most expensive MMO in history has enough financial wherewithal to cater to multiboxers in numerous ways. Yes, even if that group only consists of 1% of the entire base which isn't a number I agree with.
They could use realID as the conversation suggested. They could also allow alts on the same account to be played simultaneously by a single user. Setup something in the in-game pet system for players to give commands to their alts and have them tank, heal and DPS or whatever.
Not only would this give players a different way to play but it would also add incentive for players to level up alts. Just so they could play the game differently.
I had different results when contacting a GM. He doesn't believe follow will ever return.
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Originally Posted by JohnGabriel
That could mean that it is currently being considered but nobody knows until the higher ups make up their mind.
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised. Keep in mind not everyone used IsBoxer/InnerSpace. Some used hotkeynet, some used a tab shift methodology but ALL of them used /follow. Also the loss in subscription numbers would not be explained by banned trial accounts as a sub has to reach a milestone internally to be considered a subscription. Thinking that milestone to be 3 months but that's a guess.
My guess is the removal of /follow hit them for a considerable amount. Otherwise they wouldn't be talking about it again.
Well to take what they say at face value they were willing to take a loss of boxers if they got the big gain of getting rid of bots.
If this did not get rid of bots, and some are saying it did not, then there is no reason for them to take any loss. Thus they may reconsider.
Making a connection between the loss of 1.3 million subs and /follow is incorrect.
Everyone is blaming the loss on whatever about wow they dont like. PvP balance, Pandas, Catering to Casuals, Catering to Elites, whatever. Clearly its a combination of many many factors including the simple observation that nothing stays on top forever (EQ1, Roman Empire, American Idol, IBM, NY Yankees, etc.).'
You all understand that Honor will buy at best 476 ilevel items. Thats Garbage given you can kill 4 mobs a week that drop 496 to 522 ilevel items. You can craft 458 with way under 100g in materials.
Sam, playing BGs is not about honor gear for many of us. Boxers are not on par with arena or rated BGs so our only chance to have somewhat even competition is random BGs. When I multiboxed BGs my win/lose ratio was about 50-60% overall. In specific BGs like AV or IoC I could get better win/lose ratio but overall it's still around 50%. So yea, I could go play arena all day, but there's no fun in it. Arena is only there to get gear, not to have fun. Even if I did win arena all the time, what fun is in a game that you wait 5 mins queued and then it's all over in 2 mins. It's boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Random BGs have a certain attraction that no other form of pvp can give us boxers. The fact that they are random is probably the most important thing. It means anything can happen.
Some world pvp can get close to that, but in world you can get outnumbered so quickly that everything can end in like 10 minutes.
This is so true I love a av game when the horde used to wipe all the ally at glav and then take sh gy pushing us up nouth. The game is looking bad but with my 5 I can still be trying my best to keep tower's and change the game its so fun I love av so much I don't care about honor. Just used to this on a class you can not play in the smaller games as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palee
blizzard does read here so they do read this post. They said that to me keep giving us feedback and we keep it a open topic for them.
Applaud. Some comments are spot on about the level a botter will go to auto a game and be 0% useful, vs a human playing multiple accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosg2
I haven't multiboxed in over three years now, and I still think this is complete crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiRai
Holy shit... After seeing the avatar I checked in and around the thread to make sure I wasn't reading something that had been necro'd from 2009. >_>Quote:
Originally Posted by Fursphere
#Fursphere2013
What is this, I don't even.
Hardware boxing making a comeback?
zenga start running 3s with the shamen and make some vids.
Hi!
What has happened to this topic guys?
All has given up, and moved on? I just read it all since first post and kinda expected a "happy ending".
I just came back to multibox some wow (from swtor) and after a week i realized the lack of follow on Bg-s.
I opened a ticket, got the same answer that I ve been reading here..
So we are finally screwd in bg-s for good?
There are several threads which are much more current than this one, and I suggest browsing the forums rather than necroing an almost 2 year old post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eremite
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