Doesn't look like it worked out so well for Heyaz. I certainly wouldn't be surprised, they don't particularly like it when you use something to duplicate the behavior of something they explicitly removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by misterkrep
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Doesn't look like it worked out so well for Heyaz. I certainly wouldn't be surprised, they don't particularly like it when you use something to duplicate the behavior of something they explicitly removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by misterkrep
What happen to Heya did they ban him
I wonder why some of the words in Khatovar's post are a different color from the rest... What could that mean? Hey, if I put my mouse cursor over those words it changes shape! Hmmm, I wonder what that signifies....
I just cancelled 10 accounts. :( Keeping 6 for right now until I figure out if I want to box anymore or not.
I'm a 5 boxer. I'm don't PVP on multibox, but I'm gonna throw my support to fix this. It's a little offensive, also. "We'll take 5x money, and give you... half the game." I believe the blue's stance was they are okay with it going away from PVP. I'm okay with saving $1125 a year.
I did just cancel my subs on my 5 accounts for support.
Well the whole thing is...
We used to be 'Tolerated, but Supported'.
But they remove a key feature, that greatly impacts a large portion of the game... which for many is the main portion.
And it is removed from Arena too, where bots aren't an impact... strongly suggesting that boxers are the real target.
And they do it, in a shady way.
With no warning in the patch notes, no warning from weeks of play on the test realm.
And with a sale, that boxers buy a ton of accounts in, just prior to the stealth nerf that prevents boxers from using said accounts.
The PvE game is still there.
But given the removal of /Follow from battlegrounds... there's no real incentive to continue playing PvE, as who knows what key feature will go next, or if things will say rosy indefinitely...
Blizz has shown, they're catering to the whining masses, against boxing.
If in LFR, people are vocal enough, that the boxer is taking their loot by taking too many slots in the raid... will that be removed too?
If you want to PvP in battlegrounds, Rift is an option.
If you want to PvE, in a game that still has full boxer features (at least whatever the game had to begin with)... and which hasn't been shady against boxers... there are choices for that too.
I'm not saying, don't play Warcraft, if you find the game to still be fun.
Just that there are other options, especially if want to send Blizzard a message.
Thats nice, I was on my mobile phone and scrolling thru it :) " Herp a DERP" Nice useless post btwQuote:
Originally Posted by Alge
lol im happy u enjoyed it. Figured we could all use a good laugh in these hard times.Quote:
Originally Posted by luxlunae
Everything I have read including the gc twitter response leads me to believe that the disabling of follow in arenas will be reverted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ualaa
So, you are going to farm honor gear by instances? And why get pvp gear if you can only do arena with it, other players that are = gear as you and have more cc control. Arena atm is all about who gets the first blow.
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Originally Posted by Meathead
Why would I need to do the honor grind? I have full 2/2 gear from S12. Only time I will need to do the honor grind is next expansion or if I bring up a new team. I only box 2/3 in arena and I enjoy the challenge and I have done well except this season where I got rocked pretty hard mostly, but S8-S11 I did pretty good. I also play arenas and rbgs solo alot as well.
Why would I gear up just to aoe people to death in AV like all the other mouthbreathers completely devoid of any challenge. That doesnt make sense to me, but whatever floats their boat.
I had to [destroy] the mouth breathers in AV all weekend on my dks since i didn't bother gearing past the 3rd week last season and just made gold mostly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
85% win ratio isn't bad though.
Gearing up my rogue/mage/warriors/paladins and shaman with 2's and everything this season though. Don't wanna make the same mistake twice. Won't be competitive on my dks for like 2 months but thats k as I'm splitting them up for glad this season I hope.
I like pvp, but I hate arenas and would never do them. My characters do not have any pvp gear yet as I just finished leveling. I could buy some crafted, but I'd just get destroyed in arenas, which I hate anyway. My favorite is random battlegrounds. I'm just a dual-boxer, so I doubt that me wanting to play in bgs is really aoeing people to death. I would have to just take them in one at a time, but I paid for the second account and Isboxer in order to dual box. So, for me, it is paying for half of the game content - even less because dual boxing doesn't let me solo raids/dungeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
I respectfully request for people not to use the word "rape" when describing gaming. It is offensive and is a horrible thing that happens to mostly women and destroys lives.
My 2 cents on this is for people not to queue in LFR if they intend to multibox. What would the point be? We have other ways to do PVE in cross realm raids, where no one will whine on who is taking what loot. Let's face it, we have a bad rep, and patly is because we brought it on ourselves. Adding fuel to the fire (especially now) and getting more crippling blows to our playstyle is counterproductive, when the alternative (setting a cross realm raid) is easier, and readily available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ualaa
I have been mboxing PVE for over 5 years now. That's all I do. I adapt with each patch/change to make the best out of it and I have a pretty well geared team that I enjoy playing. Do I do LFR? Sure! But I do it on my tank because it's a quick join. Also, it boosts my VP for the week and with the 50% buff for the rest of my toons, i cap them quicker. There is no point joining a 25 man raid with all 5 of my toons, because I know i will not be able to control them as efficiently as if I were doing a dungeon or raiding with another boxer, AND I will be getting QQ from little kids whining and going to their mommy crying that the game is unfair.
Food for thought...
Well one option that I did even before the follow fiasco with only dual boxing, is I have two monitors so I just had each character full screen and didnt have to swap monitors. I just took control of each going back and forth when I wanted. I did this alot with double mages since I hated turning to face the target and it worked great. I used the raf mount and didnt really use follow alot, like I do with melee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud
I'm probably not all that versed in dual boxing to do that successfully. I do have melee too. In battlegrounds it seems so awkward since an area of battle requires so much movement. Mounting just to move to the other end of a skirmish seems awkward. It probably isn't for experienced players. Guess I could just defend something but if I only defend, which I know can be helpful. I'd probably get reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Tire
It's sort of a big deal to me. IF I had known this was going to happen a few months ago, I wouldn't have purchased another account/games, and I wouldn't have subbed for three years to Isboxer. I accepted not soloing dungeons or raids, but I had quests and bgs. Now, I just have quests. Exciting, right?
this makes me feel uncomfortable as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by blast3r
And the way that LFR loot was before, it made people mad but I don't think anyone in LFR now would care because there is no proof that you took a piece of gear that they wanted. I'd advise that people be courteous and only go in with 1-2 toons if you're going to be the bottom of the pile on dps, but if you do fine dps then who cares or will even notice.
Yea it sucks, but if it gets rid of the boxers who run random bgs even after they are already honor geared or higher who then are essentially greiefing players. These players who are usually in green+blues and are using random bgs for the intended purpose of getting geared up (almost like using a book for dummies) then I see the change only as a plus. Its also in my opinion on what brought the change about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosebud
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I'm not sure why this has to be stated. :confused:
The key problem for me now is trust. I don’t trust Blizzard any more.
Just a week ago no one even could think follow would be broken in BG and today it’s a fact. So if they now say “only in BGs” who knows what will happen in the future, cause if they plan extending it to dungeons and raids they sure as hell ain’t gonna tell us in advance. They have already shown they did this without any warning, so if they do it again same thing will happen for sure.
to be honest pretty sure with 100jp per boss instances might be faster to farm honor gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meathead
Depends on how fast you can clear them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chivalrous
And their reason was that they wished to catch the botters unaware to ban as many as they possibly could. Is there anything unreasonable about that explanation?Quote:
They have already shown they did this without any warning, so if they do it again same thing will happen for sure.
I have been running AV horde side with 1 win and the rest losses. I use the frostwolf insignia to teleport at the start. I try to disrupt as much as possible and hope the rest of the team can finish it off. So far it looks like the pvp grind will be very slow using that method. My account ends in 5 days. I had to give it a test before the accounts expire.
It is cause botters will just upgrade their software and continue on with new accounts. It’s like the police would do a massive blow against criminals just one day and then think they’re gone forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam DeathWalker
Thats correct but that dosnt mean their explaination was wrong, their plan was/is, as you say, completly ineffective but that dosnt mean they cant be trusted.
Sam, stop fooling yourself. Blizzard CANNOT be trusted, period. They will do whatever they want whenever they want. They will piss on any customer for any reason they see fit. They own the game, they do whatever they want with it.
All they accomplished was to hit botters with a single blow at one specific time. But we (innocent bystanders who they claim are not the targets) will forever be unwanted in BGs because of this.
Blizzard are not a bunch of idiots, even they would know this is an ineffective method in the long run to stop bots. It would have been more honest to simply forbid multiboxing in BG instead of saying we weren’t the targets. This is why I don’t trust them now.
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I was about to reactivate my 5x accounts but decided to read the DB forums before I did.
I messaged an old buddy/guildie of mine that works for blizzard. He said he thinks it's going back in (/follow) he saw it on some designers white board.
There could be hope!
For me anyways, and I'm sure for you, the main reason I boxed was for PvP. If you can't PvP in BGs then what's the point. (There isn't one).
Everyone do yourself a favor and cancel your WoW accounts and sign up for some free Rift trial accounts. It's obvious to me now that Blizzard has taken a stance against Multiboxing and any hope any of you have of /follow ever coming back is misleading.
Rift is a very WoW-like game, so you'll pick it up fast, and I've come to like it even more as it has plenty of features WoW doesn't have. Multiboxers are moving to Rift in herds, and I joined a multiboxing guild right away from other people doing the same thing as me. The makers of Rift, Trion, welcome multiboxers. They want our business. Blizzard does not want our business anymore. WoW is dead to me... it's a shame after I spent 8 years pouring money into that game that they would treat their customers this way, but that's what they've done. So screw 'em.
of course they are going to put it back in since it did not effect the majority of the big botting company's who are one step ahead,
Any good bot doesn't use /follow anyways, lol. Like lamest excuse ever.
If anyone is curious, the PVP daily quests opened up today on Kil'Jaeden. I was able to get them completed in about an hour, got about 600 honor as well as 50 conquest points. If you add that with the 400 you can get via the old Grizzly Hill's PVP dailies, thats about 1000 a day, or a piece of gear every 2-3 days. Probably good enough to gear up for arenas if they make that possible again. Not quite as good as BG's, but not that bad a rate either. Plenty of world PVP going on too, ruinous was out there as usual doing their thing, and there were also quite a few decent horde groups out there as well.
I'm still going to stick around and see if they bring back /follow, but have cancelled my subs until they do. Still like playing solo, I did start this game solo playing after all...
PS: Though I have been playing a LOT of league of Legends recently instead of wow haha
Multiboxing 2 kids at home, I sometimes wish I could turn /follow off.
LoL
Soon their IWT will have them running off all crazy in different directions and they'll be stuck in corners.
they use follow as a backup. not all the time but they do use it the bots getting suck in bg is kinda funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Toned