Multiboxing on mmo-champion.com

[Tehtsuo]

There's a new post on http://www.mmo-champion.com that talks about multiboxing. Check it out front page for the next week or so. Not a lot of information, and clearly poorly researched by Boubouille ('http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1'). He refers to multiboxing as "multiplexing" and explains that - "the user will press Thunderbolt rank X on the emitter (First character chosen) soon after the 4 other characters will cast the same spell." Someone should tell him that it splits a keypress that is bound to a spellcast macro, it doesn't split the spellcast macro himself. Misleading, but not malicious, so I'll let it slide.

[Ifalna]

Thats the same guy who's been posting drivel and getting seriously destroyed by the community on the eu forums.

Best to ignore him.

[Khazrael]

I guess he gets bonus points for trying? I can't hate on it, it's a complex thing that some people have a hard time wrapping their minds around. For sure, at least it's not more hate.

[Anahka]

Whoever made that post on mmo-champion doesn't seem to have any idea what he's talking about :/ Not used to seeing crappy articles like that there.

[Khazrael]

Whoever made that post on mmo-champion doesn't seem to have any idea what he's talking about :/ Not used to seeing crappy articles like that there.

It almost kinda looks like he went to a thesaurus for some words to use. Emitters? Multiplexing? Just sounds like fancy mumbo jumbo to throw people off the scent.

It's kind of like when you work in IT like me, and you know trying to explain something to someone just won't work, so you use a bunch of fancy words to make them get all googly eyed and be like "well I'll take your word for it because that's all far too complicated for me to understand!".

[Anahka]

Indeed. It seems like he just copy-pasted some random nonsense of the General Forum (of all places) and threw in some vaguely related video to pretty it all up.

[Eteocles]

That looks like it's word-for-word one of the OPs of one of the whiner posts I've seen lately...just another self-righteous "IM RIGHT UR WRONG LOL" prick

[Ifalna]

That looks like it's word-for-word one of the OPs of one of the whiner posts I've seen lately...just another self-righteous "IM RIGHT UR WRONG LOL" prickIt is yes. Feel slightly disgusted with mmo champ for posting blatant crap like it.

[d0z3rr]

Why is multi-boxing so hard for people to understand? Is it because they're not computer literate?

Oy ve.

Soon I'll have to make a DIY on multiboxing video because I get alot of questions on youtube on how it's done.

[Khazrael]

Why is multi-boxing so hard for people to understand? Is it because they're not computer literate?

Considering how often people are scared of computers in general, I'd say thats part of it. Most people I think learn a computer just enough to do what they need, whether it's their job or entertainment or what. Some people struggle just to do that, and anything beyond it tends to be damn near "magic" to them.

I think even the concept can be hard to grasp for some people though, beyond the technical aspects of how to go about doing it. Controlling 5 accounts at once? omg, how can you possibly do all that at the same time!

Who really knows.

[Eteocles]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: People are stupid. Plain and simple. Just like the retarded pussies in TF2 who're afraid to stand near the Goldrush cart or on any control point cuz they're afraid to die(and end up losing because they died anyways without stopping the capture to boot, whereas I rush in kamikaze-like and 9 times out of 10 win the game singlehandedly because of it) or other times simply content to sit back on Offense and pick off defenders rather than rushing or pushing up every time I give the fuckers an opening by singlehandedly destroying every SG in sight and backstabbing the demo with the sticky trap laid, removing all obstacles and gave them chat warning twice in mostly all caps. [/rant]*cough* yeah I played on a pug tf2 server last night since my regular server hadn't updated post-patch and I couldn't play on it lol

Same general fear everywhere else...fear of change, fear of computers/tech, fear of god, everyone nowadays is a pussy :p(No offense to the ladyfolk present; you gals usually show more balls than most guys lolz)

[OzPhoenix]

I think we can thank the multitude of gold sellers, character levellers, Glider users etc etc etc for the reputation some people place on us multiboxers.

I can give you an example of what I mean by this from my playing tonight, literally no more than a few hours ago. My Shaman team was running around Tarren Mills doing some quests, because I got sick of Shadowfang Keep. So, I hit the Elixir of Suffering quest, which for a multiboxer is appropriately named - 1 Spider Ichor and 10 Bear Tongues to complete. So, I'm after 5 Ichors, and 50!! Bear Tongues, and the drop rate blows. I must have stubbornly run around Tarren Mills for an hour dropping every bear I could see before I finally completed it.

In the meantime, I got a PM from someone who knew me that said I was about to be reported as a Glider user, because they'd been watching me run around TM for so long in a regular pattern killing bears (I've levelled so many Horde characters now, I knew exactly the best circuit to make to gather in all the bears). Sure enough, this person is following me around (I hadn't notice them before).

In the end, I explained what I was doing and they were apologised for the almost-report and wished me luck. The point being, to the un-initiated, what we do can easily come off as somehow illegal or underhanded. I've tried to counter that by being open about what I do, stopping to answer any polite questions people have, and I have to say, on my server at least, once people see what I'm doing the response is generally positive, even though it can often be initially negative.

[Anahka]

If you want to really suffer, go do the quests in Shimmering Flats. Gather scorpion poison, turtle scales, races parts and vulture bones.

The poison and scales are a low drop at best, especially the scales. The racer parts are all over the damn place but you need 30 each. The vulture bones are a 100% drop but there's like 10 vultures in the entire zone on a slow respawn.

I was nearly suicidal after that. Those quests would be hell even for a single player. It ranks right up there with Gnomeregan on the NEVER-GOING-BACK scale.

[OzPhoenix]

I'm thinking of skipping Shimmering Flats for exactly that reason. I remember only too well how long those quests take for a single player. I think I'll be running SM a lot around that level to skip the zone and head straight into ZF when I can.

[Xzin]

I think I collected 500+ rocket car parts. Why did I do that to myself? Skip that area ENTIRELY.

[Ifalna]

Drop rates really do feel like they were increased, took me about an hour for all the items on my shamans bar the rocket car parts, cause good god, no. But the actual quest items are pretty fast if you take advantage of the vulture/turtle/scorpid mass spawn points.

[Anahka]

I think I gained a full level grinding those damn turtles. They obviously all have the shell-thingy. But does it drop when you kill it? Noooooo......

:(

[Los]

35ish, dustwallow marsh is jummy!

[Khazrael]

I think I gained a full level grinding those damn turtles. They obviously all have the shell-thingy. But does it drop when you kill it? Noooooo......

:(

Uhh... its because it breaks? Yeah, thats the ticket.... because it breaks. You're beating on the turtle right? I dunno. That's the only excuse I've been able to come up with aside from that Blizzard wants you to spend more time grinding so that you keep playing.

Just one more level...

[Anahka]

Dustwallow Marsh rules now. Although I skipped most of Tabetha's quests. Otherwise, awesome levelling.

[Tonuss]

There's a new post on http://www.mmo-champion.com that talks about multiboxing. Check it out front page for the next week or so. Not a lot of information, and clearly poorly researched by Boubouille ('http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1'). He refers to multiboxing as "multiplexing" and explains that - "the user will press Thunderbolt rank X on the emitter (First character chosen) soon after the 4 other characters will cast the same spell." Someone should tell him that it splits a keypress that is bound to a spellcast macro, it doesn't split the spellcast macro himself. Misleading, but not malicious, so I'll let it slide.I think you misunderstand. Boubouille is the admin of the MMO-Champion site. He was linking to the post created by that whiner on the EuroWoW forums, and included the reply from a blue, that it's okay to do so. He then linked a video on how to record your multiboxing sessions on a dual monitor system (the video ends by displaying a link to dual-boxing.com). He doesn't seem to be condemning multiboxing or promoting it, and the portions he quoted make the anti-MBer look pretty foolish.

It seems to me that most of the time when people go outside of the WoW forums to complain about multiboxing, they find quite a few people who are MBers, or who support it, or who just want the whiners to shut the hell up. And that's a good thing.

[dizz]

you know i didn't see anything wrong with his post.

Multiplexing IS a valid word describing what multiboxers do. You are multiplexing your keyboard commands to multiple sources, via either hardware multiplexing or software multiplexing.

I didn't see anything in that post suggesting multiboxers are botting. Can someone point me to what's so ill natured that everyone else is noticing?

[Eteocles]

Please note this thread's OP stated it wasn't necessarily a bad post BY mmo, just that it was publicity of sorts; and 2 posts above me explains why; "misleading, but not malicious"

[Tehtsuo]

There's a new post on http://www.mmo-champion.com that talks about multiboxing. Check it out front page for the next week or so. Not a lot of information, and clearly poorly researched by Boubouille ('http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1'). He refers to multiboxing as "multiplexing" and explains that - "the user will press Thunderbolt rank X on the emitter (First character chosen) soon after the 4 other characters will cast the same spell." Someone should tell him that it splits a keypress that is bound to a spellcast macro, it doesn't split the spellcast macro himself. Misleading, but not malicious, so I'll let it slide.I think you misunderstand. Boubouille is the admin of the MMO-Champion site. He was linking to the post created by that whiner on the EuroWoW forums, and included the reply from a blue, that it's okay to do so. He then linked a video on how to record your multiboxing sessions on a dual monitor system (the video ends by displaying a link to dual-boxing.com). He doesn't seem to be condemning multiboxing or promoting it, and the portions he quoted make the anti-MBer look pretty foolish.

It seems to me that most of the time when people go outside of the WoW forums to complain about multiboxing, they find quite a few people who are MBers, or who support it, or who just want the whiners to shut the hell up. And that's a good thing.
I'm not misunderstood at all, I'm familiar with Boubouille and know he's the admin of the site. If you read the text that he wrote, he does seem in general to have the vocabulary and specifics of multiboxing pretty confused. Nowhere in my post did I mention Boubouille made any statements containing a negative connotation, just that he's not terribly well-informed. That's not a surprise, because I doubt he would want to present a biased point of view, which would be counterproductive for mmo-champion.

What Eteocles said. :D

[OzPhoenix]

I think I gained a full level grinding those damn turtles. They obviously all have the shell-thingy. But does it drop when you kill it? Noooooo......

:(

Uhh... its because it breaks? Yeah, thats the ticket.... because it breaks. You're beating on the turtle right? I dunno. That's the only excuse I've been able to come up with aside from that Blizzard wants you to spend more time grinding so that you keep playing.

Just one more level...

Explain to me why then so few bears near Tarren Mills have tongues. For that matter, the really shocking revelation that very few Mountain Lions around the same area have Blood!?!?! Blood I tells ya. How can I kill this poor old starving lion and NOT get ANY blood???????? /lol

[Tonuss]

The best part about the multiple threads is watching Blizzard reps constantly reiterating the company stance- they have no problem with it, it's not cheating, it's not a ToS violation, it's perfectly legit, etc etc. Over and over again the end result of these topics is that Blue posters reply in order to remind people that Blizzard has no intention of forbidding multiboxing. If any of them think that the constant complaints are going to wear Blizzard down, they should be aware that it's having the opposite effect.

[OzPhoenix]

The best part about the multiple threads is watching Blizzard reps constantly reiterating the company stance- they have no problem with it, it's not cheating, it's not a ToS violation, it's perfectly legit, etc etc. Over and over again the end result of these topics is that Blue posters reply in order to remind people that Blizzard has no intention of forbidding multiboxing. If any of them think that the constant complaints are going to wear Blizzard down, they should be aware that it's having the opposite effect.

I worry sometimes that perhaps they may very well wear Blizzard down. It wouldn't be the first time that Blizzard has caved to forum QQ'ers pressure. It would definitely be the last time I'd play WoW, as multiboxing has re-ignited my interest in this game like never before since Beta.

[Tdog]

The best part about the multiple threads is watching Blizzard reps constantly reiterating the company stance- they have no problem with it, it's not cheating, it's not a ToS violation, it's perfectly legit, etc etc. Over and over again the end result of these topics is that Blue posters reply in order to remind people that Blizzard has no intention of forbidding multiboxing. If any of them think that the constant complaints are going to wear Blizzard down, they should be aware that it's having the opposite effect.

I worry sometimes that perhaps they may very well wear Blizzard down. It wouldn't be the first time that Blizzard has caved to forum QQ'ers pressure. It would definitely be the last time I'd play WoW, as multiboxing has re-ignited my interest in this game like never before since Beta.Ditto...And I was so close to finally being able to walk away from this damnably addictiing game!!! What? Damnably is too a word!!!

[OzPhoenix]

The best part about the multiple threads is watching Blizzard reps constantly reiterating the company stance- they have no problem with it, it's not cheating, it's not a ToS violation, it's perfectly legit, etc etc. Over and over again the end result of these topics is that Blue posters reply in order to remind people that Blizzard has no intention of forbidding multiboxing. If any of them think that the constant complaints are going to wear Blizzard down, they should be aware that it's having the opposite effect.

I worry sometimes that perhaps they may very well wear Blizzard down. It wouldn't be the first time that Blizzard has caved to forum QQ'ers pressure. It would definitely be the last time I'd play WoW, as multiboxing has re-ignited my interest in this game like never before since Beta.Ditto...And I was so close to finally being able to walk away from this damnably addictiing game!!! What? Damnably is too a word!!!

damnably
adv : in a damnable manner; "kindly Arthur--so damnably , politely
, endlessly persistent!" [syn: damned, cursedly]


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

Damnably \Dam"na*bly\, adv.
1. In a manner to incur severe censure, condemnation, or
punishment.

2. Odiously; detestably; excessively. [Low]