Building a rig supporting 8 monitors... need help

[MaltheMM]

I don't know how to do this or what it would require, i been thinking about buying two, two monitor Video-Cards, each with Y-see two Dual Monitor Adapter and a Viewport™ Computer Video Adapter, and then just praying it would work as i have no knowlegde of how its works what-so-ever.


Thanks in advance :thumbsup:
-Malthe

[keyclone]

ummm... carefully? :D

on, seriously... you'll need enough graphics cards (4) to support the 8 monitors.. and then the power supply to power the boards.

hopefully one of the hardware geeks will chime in (posting this in hardware might be better... but its a toss up)

[MaltheMM]

well this is the 'support forum' so i thought i should post it here. shouldnt the Y-See thing allow another monitor and te same thing about the viewport thingy?



will post in hardware,... or someone can just move it

[Xzin]

8 monitors to do 2d desktop or 3d gaming? The costs and setup change dramatically either way.

[cookcpu]

You can try NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440 not sure if you can play WOW on it though. If it can, then you can buy 2 of this and you have 8 monitors on 1 computer. No harm sending an email to Nvidia support to ask about it.

I have a old matrox MMS200 Quad series video card and it can't play WOW, it is good for 2D.

[MaltheMM]

well as i said i have no idea what i need all i know is that i want to upgrade my setup and i need to know what to put in my new computer.
what i plan to do is 10 box in wow as i actually just won the lottery for about 20.000,00$

[Xzin]

If you are wanting to 10 box, you need, at minimum, 2 computers. Assuming this is disposable income, you only need to spend perhaps 7 - 8k on 10 boxing. Possibly even cheaper if you go the software route. But do your research before you buy anything. The matrox cards or triple heads to go or simply cramming 4 video cards into a nearly any machine would by and large be a disaster.

[Skuggomann]

I just wana say: I think 8 will be overkill to the max, thers never need for so menny (unless your Xzin :P)

[keyclone]

some people will play 5 accounts across 2 monitors... 1 in one screen and 4 in another... and others will play 5 on 1 monitor... getting a single 30" or larger screen might be preferable... or maybe the 30" with a 22" for browsing while playing

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[Fearlys]

well as i said i have no idea what i need all i know is that i want to upgrade my setup and i need to know what to put in my new computer.
what i plan to do is 10 box in wow as i actually just won the lottery for about 20.000,00$ 20,000 or 20,000,000? If the latter, don't forget to pay of a couple of GMs so the last mob you kill to Ding 70 drops Full Tier 6 + weapon, rings and stuff for every spec of your toon. Maybe a 20,000 or so gold as well. :thumbsup:

[spannah]

well as i said i have no idea what i need all i know is that i want to upgrade my setup and i need to know what to put in my new computer.
what i plan to do is 10 box in wow as i actually just won the lottery for about 20.000,00$I guess there are some motherboards that support up to 4 video cards. Not to familiar with those but did read a little bit about the 3xSLI boards which support 3 cards (either in SLI or not). Fact is the more graphics boards per motherboard, the greater chance for compatibility and stability issues, and more time you spend fine tuning your system instead of playing the game. So the more monitors, the more video cards and the more motherboads ...

You may want to do with the standard q6600 quad core, 8800 GT, 3-4 gigs RAM , and no more then 2 monitors. Try 5 boxing for a while and then if you like it, go the 1 computer per account route. since all you be doing is play WoW (I am guessing it is WoW :) ) you can do cheap machines with an AMD processor, or cheap intel, an 8600 nvidia GPU, and at least 1 Gig memory - should run about $500 per computer, or less.

[Nitro]

Hmm I think you can use a DVI splitter cable to run 4 monitors per graphics cards (the split cable does not clone the display, i think windows will detect each display indipendantly). Using this method should run 8 monitors decently off of 2 8800Ultras.

http://sewelldirect.com/dvi-splitter-cable-vga.asp

http://www2.dvigear.com/diam.html?source=AdWords_Splitters3&gclid=CJWm0fTPx5ICFSMaagodaRrHhA

http://www.nextag.com/cable-dvi-splitter/search-html

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2315801

[Vyndree]

If your computer explodes, please do share pictures of the fire. :D

MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


In all seriousness, if you're going to invest in 8 monitors I say invest in additional computers.

[H2BH]

i can just give you a tip about this site.

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/products/home.php

really good solutions

[Wilbur]

i can just give you a tip about this site.

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/corpo/products/home.php

really good solutions

Unfortunately they aren't that great for gaming.

[MaltheMM]

i won 20.000$. i donot have room for more than one computer and all the additional powersupplies would overload my electric system so what i need is ONE computer with the power of god.
im planning on having 3 horisontal monitors ontop of 5 vertical monitors i measured and they will actually line up... (the mount is custom made by some insane computerstore in the neightborhood
for the rig i want an intel quad core and 8 or more GB of RAM

[MaltheMM]

maybe this ('http://www.partspc.com/ProductDetails.asp?CatID=225&ProdID=15218') motherboard would be good ( dont really understand the technical specifications, HELP ME! )
I THINK it supports Quad core CPUs and 4 video cards

[Kodi1769]

Hey just wanted to give you some info I had found out a while back when I was researching something similar.

First, when ya get a MOBO that supports up to 4 video cards ya need to check on that it will let you run 4 as independent and not force you sli. (Most of the Graph Design system boards will have 4 slots but they only let you run 2x2 sli which may not help you. If you plan to run the boxed monitors on low res settings you can get your hands on some old reg PCI vid cards but the quality would be crappy.

As for a matrox multi tap, although I do not have any personal exp with them I have heard that they are great for desktop apps but when you jump into the gaming world their performance is somewhat lackluster. I have heard the same with the software types but you would need multiple boxes for those anyway.

TBH, I 100% agree with running larger monitors to fix the problem but you will need Vid Cards with the horsepower to push them and a Robust PSU *Look into modular types*

I am sorta Comp Savy so if I can help in anyway I will do my best.

*Side note* This is my first post but have been a forum follower and fan for a long time. Just wanted to say thanks to all of the members for the tips and help :)

[Kodi1769]

maybe this ('http://www.partspc.com/ProductDetails.asp?CatID=225&ProdID=15218') motherboard would be good ( dont really understand the technical specifications, HELP ME! )
I THINK it supports Quad core CPUs and 4 video cardsHmm.. By the looks of the pic on the site, it only has 2 PCIE slots , other 2 look like a diff card bus type

[MaltheMM]

well thanks... grats on your first post and how do you see if a MOBO supports 4 non-sli video cards or whatever its called...

[Kodi1769]

well thanks... grats on your first post and how do you see if a MOBO supports 4 non-sli video cards or whatever its called...Well it would be listed in the spec section, or you may need to find a MOBO then do a google search on it. Can I ask what exactly are you trying to run? reason being, I can give you a method to run what you are looking for as well as possibly setting a 2 PC set up with approx the same space and power usage as 1 big bad box.

On a side not, My Asus allows me 3 PCI-E non SLI cards which will net me 6 DVI ports. These are alot more common than 4 slot. If you get one with an additional onboard slot you would be at 7 ports *Alothough the onboard vid may be kinda weak.

This website may be a good place for you to start. They kick ASS in the Graphic design / Rendering department and you could probably custom build something through them. The cost alot but if they may be a good start also. http://www.boxxtech.com/

[Suvega]

10 boxing on one computer, I don't think is really doable, but you can try.

You want:

1 skull trail motherboard
2 9770 intel quad core extreme processors
at least 8-16gb of ram
vista premium
2 * 9800gx graphics cards

4 monitors. (thats the most you can drive.

That should be good imo

[Bollwerk]

I have never seen a motherboard with more than 3 PCIE x16 slots, so the most monitors you can run is 6 (for 3d gaming that is). However, can easily have 2 clients on each monitor. Just use widescreen monitors in portrait mode. Also, as Suvega has alluded to, you will need a 64-bit version of Vista if you are going to use more than 3GB of RAM (which is mandatory if you are going to run that many clients).

So I assume you're planning on doing PvP with 10? Can't really do any PvE with more than 5 IMHO.

[Kodi1769]

I thought XP 64 also supports more than3 gig of ram naturally. Also if you want to use horizontal span you will be stuck with XP over Vista *Dunno if that make a big performance difference anymore like it used to over dual view*

[Nitro]

10 boxing on one computer, I don't think is really doable, but you can try.

You want:

1 skull trail motherboard
2 9770 intel quad core extreme processors
at least 8-16gb of ram
vista premium
2 * 9800gx graphics cards

4 monitors. (thats the most you can drive.

That should be good imo

Sounds like a fun challenge to build one PC that can 10 box. Skulltrail is the first thing that popped into my mind as well but its not very future proof (8GB max mem support, pci-e 1.1 instead of 2.0 and DDR2 instead of DDR3). That being said I guess it's still your only option so you have those 8 cores to work with.

You guys dont think you can drive 8 monitors off of 2 8800 Ultras using DVI splitter cables? Run each at a lower res to reduce the strain ( mabey 1024x768 ).

[Sam DeathWalker]

This plan is doomed ...

Just run more electrical cables through the wall from the box that goes to the power company, if thats really the problem.

By the time you get this working you will be able to pass that microsoft certification test lol ...

If you want 8 monitors, get 8 computers thats all I have to say.

[MaltheMM]

is it really undoable to 10box on one computer ... what about 5 boxing ... that shouldnt be that much of a problem... is 2 CPUs really needed? ive seen people 10-box(on two laptops) with some crappy intel dual 2 core 2 - 2.00 ghz CPUs

[MaltheMM]

DARN !!! ... when i tried to cash the lottery ticket they said i had to be older than 18 to 'gamble'!!!

[MaltheMM]

10 boxing on one computer, I don't think is really doable, but you can try.

You want:

1 skull trail motherboard
2 9770 intel quad core extreme processors
at least 8-16gb of ram
vista premium
2 * 9800gx graphics cards

4 monitors. (thats the most you can drive.

shouldnt it be possible to get a MOBO supporting 4 video cards each supprting 2 monitors?

[MaltheMM]

ohh by the way im thinking VIsta Ultimate 64bit
8MB RAM
Core2Quad Q6700 8MB 4x2,67GHz
and what about GeForce 9800GX2 1GB (Corsair 550W PSU) PCI-E Grafikkort (GeForce 9)(dont know if it supports 2 monitors)
Corsair 550W PSU, Scythe CPUCooler

[Kodi1769]

10 boxing on one computer, I don't think is really doable, but you can try.

You want:

1 skull trail motherboard
2 9770 intel quad core extreme processors
at least 8-16gb of ram
vista premium
2 * 9800gx graphics cards

4 monitors. (thats the most you can drive.

That should be good imo

Sounds like a fun challenge to build one PC that can 10 box. Skulltrail is the first thing that popped into my mind as well but its not very future proof (8GB max mem support, pci-e 1.1 instead of 2.0 and DDR2 instead of DDR3). That being said I guess it's still your only option so you have those 8 cores to work with.

You guys dont think you can drive 8 monitors off of 2 8800 Ultras using DVI splitter cables? Run each at a lower res to reduce the strain ( mabey 1024x768 ).I was under the assumtion that the DVI Splitters only duplicate the same image to another screen *Y splitters that is, not the Matrox*

[Kaynin]

Two high end computers with two videocards each.

850W psu mimimum each

One uber high end computer with four videocards?

1200W psu minimum probably. :p

If electricity is a problem, the difference between one pc with four videocards or two with two each isn't that differently, especially since graphic cards are probably most intensive in that area in the entire comp. :p

I based the amounts on guesses, I have no realtime experience with a godly rig like that, but if space the only real problem, then chuck down a wall or something. xD

Two pc's will probably function loads better. :p

[Kaynin]

DARN !!! ... when i tried to cash the lottery ticket they said i had to be older than 18 to 'gamble'!!!

And can I say. "oops"?

O_o

Couldn't someone else cash it for you? :P

And did you pay for the ticket? I mean, it's THEIR job to verufy age, if they didn't then you are probably in your right to receive the prize. :p

[MaltheMM]

i paid for ticket ..., they had no problem with me then
BUT NOW ... should i just Rob them for 20k and when they find out its me ill say that the money is rightfully mine

none else can cash it... must be cashed my the same person ( my name is on the ticket and they require picture ID )

[MaltheMM]

would this CPU ('http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115034') x 1 be enough?

[Xzin]

i paid for ticket ..., they had no problem with me then
BUT NOW ... should i just Rob them for 20k and when they find out its me ill say that the money is rightfully mine

none else can cash it... must be cashed my the same person ( my name is on the ticket and they require picture ID )

For 20k? Have somebody over 18 to legally change their name to yours? Lol. I have no idea. They will not pay out if you are under 18. Wait until you become 18? No idea.

Skulltrail can do 4x x8 PCIe slots. You could pair that up with some wicked video cards and have a go at it. I still think 2 computers is a better option though but with 2x quad cores, you might BARELY be able to do it. This would be a nearly 10k computer, not counting the monitors.

[MaltheMM]

and these ('http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227275&Tpk=OCZ%2bPC3-10666%2bReaperX') or these ('http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227267') ramsticks x 2

[MaltheMM]

and if anyone know where to get a tower/case with a Hellokitty theme please let me know

[Suvega]

i paid for ticket ..., they had no problem with me then
BUT NOW ... should i just Rob them for 20k and when they find out its me ill say that the money is rightfully mine

none else can cash it... must be cashed my the same person ( my name is on the ticket and they require picture ID )

For 20k? Have somebody over 18 to legally change their name to yours? Lol. I have no idea. They will not pay out if you are under 18. Wait until you become 18? No idea.

Skulltrail can do 4x x8 PCIe slots. You could pair that up with some wicked video cards and have a go at it. I still think 2 computers is a better option though but with 2x quad cores, you might BARELY be able to do it. This would be a nearly 10k computer, not counting the monitors.

As long as you don't SLI, you can use 3-4 9800gx2s. That would be 2 monitors per card.

Remember for a single monitor, you can only use 2 gx2 cards, and the skulltrail doesn't support quad sli. So, basically you can't have more then one card for one monitor in that mb.

[Kodi1769]

i paid for ticket ..., they had no problem with me then
BUT NOW ... should i just Rob them for 20k and when they find out its me ill say that the money is rightfully mine

none else can cash it... must be cashed my the same person ( my name is on the ticket and they require picture ID )Ok, just curious, what do you mean the ticket has your name on it? Lotto tickets do not include a name on the due to the fact that they are given away as gifts and such and if they were locked to just one person then the individual who bought the ticket would suffer the tax ramifications for the recipient which would not be justifiable.( at least that is how it works in NY) Are you sure your name is on it?

[Gallo]

i paid for ticket ..., they had no problem with me then
BUT NOW ... should i just Rob them for 20k and when they find out its me ill say that the money is rightfully mine

none else can cash it... must be cashed my the same person ( my name is on the ticket and they require picture ID )Ok, just curious, what do you mean the ticket has your name on it? Lotto tickets do not include a name on the due to the fact that they are given away as gifts and such and if they were locked to just one person then the individual who bought the ticket would suffer the tax ramifications for the recipient which would not be justifiable.( at least that is how it works in NY) Are you sure your name is on it?To hand in high value tickets, you need to sign the back of the ticket itself.

[Kodi1769]

i paid for ticket ..., they had no problem with me then
BUT NOW ... should i just Rob them for 20k and when they find out its me ill say that the money is rightfully mine

none else can cash it... must be cashed my the same person ( my name is on the ticket and they require picture ID )Ok, just curious, what do you mean the ticket has your name on it? Lotto tickets do not include a name on the due to the fact that they are given away as gifts and such and if they were locked to just one person then the individual who bought the ticket would suffer the tax ramifications for the recipient which would not be justifiable.( at least that is how it works in NY) Are you sure your name is on it?To hand in high value tickets, you need to sign the back of the ticket itself.Right, it must be endorsed to hand in. So why couldn't someone such a s a guardian sign the back. The original ticket should not have any personal info on it.

[Xzin]

and if anyone know where to get a tower/case with a Hellokitty theme please let me know

^^ Confirmation of troll.

[MaltheMM]

i paid for ticket ..., they had no problem with me then
BUT NOW ... should i just Rob them for 20k and when they find out its me ill say that the money is rightfully mine

none else can cash it... must be cashed my the same person ( my name is on the ticket and they require picture ID )Ok, just curious, what do you mean the ticket has your name on it? Lotto tickets do not include a name on the due to the fact that they are given away as gifts and such and if they were locked to just one person then the individual who bought the ticket would suffer the tax ramifications for the recipient which would not be justifiable.( at least that is how it works in NY) Are you sure your name is on it?To hand in high value tickets, you need to sign the back of the ticket itself.Right, it must be endorsed to hand in. So why couldn't someone such a s a guardian sign the back. The original ticket should not have any personal info on it.i allready signed it when i tried to hand it in ... bad idea ... by the way they gave me the cost of the ticket back and ripped it up

[MaltheMM]

http://www.mobilewhack.com/b00021z1ym01a23nlorbgxoleo_aa280_sclzzzz.jpg im serious I NEED HELLO KITTY!!!

[Wilbur]

*shudder*

[MaltheMM]

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[Skuggomann]

Your avatar is win, and btw:



im serious I NEED HELLO KITTY!!!

Buy a computer box (pref pink) and then make a stensil wht the hello kitty thing on it and spray it on.

[MaltheMM]

ike this ... http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-156-195-14.jpg ('http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156195')